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the_r3dz
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#22856469 - 02/02/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why do we put the blower towards us in home mycology? Or is it all mycology?
My favorite hood build was Agar's, and he had his hood above him, was it still blowing towards him?
Maybe I need to learn/understand laminar flow better
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azur
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#22856474 - 02/02/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: it's not bad info, it's info you don't like because you want to ride PFs nuts.
if it was bad info 99% of us would be taking showers because we wouldn't get good results being un-showered.
shame on you for trying to be 100% right on a place where different opinions and techniques work, and no one has the right answer. 100% proof that showering is needless is the results everyone has though.
and the flow isn't opposite it's either a vertical or horizontal flow hood the air comes from the top down or the back forward.
 The flow is being pulled away from the lab technician when working with biohazards. Yes. This has nothing to do with PF. I don't have a problem with him anymore. Stop putting words in my mouth bod. I didn't say you 100% need to shower. You just like to argue because it's the best thing you've got going for you. And according to the few pm's I've just received, a lot of lurkers are agreeing with me. They just don't want to say so publicly because they know what happens.
Just stop and get back on topic Bod, have you tried this method with monos yet?
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: the_r3dz]
#22856487 - 02/02/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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the_r3dz said: Why do we put the blower towards us in home mycology? Or is it all mycology?
My favorite hood build was Agar's, and he had his hood above him, was it still blowing towards him?
Maybe I need to learn/understand laminar flow better
easier to DIY build. we don't even make flow hoods. we make flow cabinets technically
az can facepalm me all he want's but he doesn't know what a bio containment hood is.  if it blows air away from the user it's more like a fume hood. which the do use for some nasty things.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: the_r3dz]
#22856509 - 02/02/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm no expert and I'll never have one, but the HEPA filter sucks in the air in the room and directly spits out like 99.9% clean air. You leave the hood on for an hour before time so the contaminants in the room get sucked into the filter and remain there.
The oxygen also comes out in a laminar motion at a quick speed, preventing other particles from falling onto your work. A SAB lets the particles fall to the floor and you create very little motion as to not stir up those particles. A LFH stirs up ONLY clean air as the particles are trapped in the HEPA by now.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: stareatclouds]
#22856534 - 02/02/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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hoods in labs are actual hoods. the horizontal ones have guides/ducting to make a hood out of it. vertical hoods have to be hoods by virtue of their design.
the cabinets we make have no shroud/duct/hood
some flow hoods for working with pathogens blow air down from the top, and then suck it in through the floor. the human side of it is like a glove box so you're never actually exposed. no one works with a really nasty pathogen in the box azur described like a class I BSC which does suck air in past the user, those type hoods will contaminate your work unless you're already in a clean room since it's sucking air in
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azur
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#22856557 - 02/02/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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You suck so badly bodhisatta. Why? You could be an asset to this community, but you choose to just be an ass. It'd be nice to see you in a positive light
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#22856585 - 02/02/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't realize all the showering and tooth-brushing for sterile work was still a thing.
It may be more beneficial to beginners who are still working on technique, or people who may be working in drafts, but IDK.
I know people work in some really dirty rooms without issues, so I don't see why a dirty body would make any difference.
IMHO, in a SAB, as long as the air is still and the stuff in it and your body parts in it are clean, you should be fine.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: azur]
#22856592 - 02/02/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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azur said: You suck so badly bodhisatta. Why? You could be an asset to this community, but you choose to just be an ass. It'd be nice to see you in a positive light
I think most people actually say that about you, Mr. almost had a TC tag. 
I'm a dick too but at least I don't make a shit show regularly in cultivation along with my contributions.
if you can shut down any of my opinions with facts go for it. if it can pass the test of can be done can be done reliably. then it's good in my book. spores to LC. no reliability, not showering before sterile work = always been reliable.
if myself and many people get away with it, then it's not a common denominator, it's not a vector, it's not something that is the first thing you even look at if a problem develops. if a problem develops and you didn't shower it's extremely reasonable to assume it was your method that didn't work not the fact that you didn't shower. fact is most sterile work ever done ever was done without a immediate prior shower. you want to argue that that isn't the case? really.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: SpitballJedi]
#22856617 - 02/02/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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azur said: You suck so badly bodhisatta. Why? You could be an asset to this community, but you choose to just be an ass. It'd be nice to see you in a positive light
I think most people actually say that about you, Mr. almost had a TC tag. 
I'm a dick too but at least I don't make a shit show regularly in cultivation along with my contributions.
if you can shut down any of my opinions with facts go for it. if it can pass the test of can be done can be done reliably. then it's good in my book. spores to LC. no reliability, not showering before sterile work = always been reliable.
if myself and many people get away with it, then it's not a common denominator, it's not a vector, it's not something that is the first thing you even look at if a problem develops. if a problem develops and you didn't shower it's extremely reasonable to assume it was your method that didn't work not the fact that you didn't shower. fact is most sterile work ever done ever was done without a immediate prior shower. you want to argue that that isn't the case? really.
Tldr you know i don't care about a tag. That's you. And your nose is so goddamn brown from being up crons ass, of course you'll win any argument, cause I'll get banned for less than what you get away with. You're the one that turned this thread into a shit show.
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SpitballJedi said: I didn't realize all the showering and tooth-brushing for sterile work was still a thing.
It may be more beneficial to beginners who are still working on technique, or people who may be working in drafts, but IDK.
I know people work in some really dirty rooms without issues, so I don't see why a dirty body would make any difference.
IMHO, in a SAB, as long as the air is still and the stuff in it and your body parts in it are clean, you should be fine.
Noobs are my whole point. Just like any tek. Follow it until success, then deviate. Noobs should start out showering and then decide for themselves if it's necessary
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: SpitballJedi]
#22856619 - 02/02/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi said: I didn't realize all the showering and tooth-brushing for sterile work was still a thing.
It may be more beneficial to beginners who are still working on technique, or people who may be working in drafts, but IDK.
I know people work in some really dirty rooms without issues, so I don't see why a dirty body would make any difference.
IMHO, in a SAB, as long as the air is still and the stuff in it and your body parts in it are clean, you should be fine.
unless you're showering with chlorine and brushing your teeth with isopropyl you can't really do much more than slightly dent the fact that you're the biggest source of contamination showered or not.
you really should tell people to wash their hands like surgeons. scrub under their nails. use gloves(don't really need them in a SAB) wear a face mask too while doing work...
and I'm pretty sure you can't say TL;DR if you actually read it.
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azur
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#22856648 - 02/02/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tldr
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur] 2
#22856652 - 02/02/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'll save you both the hassel. funny how this was post 911
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: cronicr]
#22857862 - 02/03/16 12:37 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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keep my name out of the bs
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: cronicr]
#22858555 - 02/03/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: cronicr]
#22858558 - 02/03/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Has anyone done this without a casing layer? If not my next mini I will do this way next week or so...
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azur
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: PreparationH]
#22858584 - 02/03/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Definitely. When i grew gt, i never used a casing and did poly at spawning (I think this is mentioned in the op).
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22858600 - 02/03/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I feel like the name of this thread is misleading. Cause it's about NOT taping the holes.
Anyway, did this on my minis and they are doing well.

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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#22858715 - 02/03/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm on day 13 of multispore PF cakes to cpoo/coir minitub. I used medium poly in all holes at spawn. When it began to pin though I noticed the dry spot around the top poly went away, mostly I think from the heater not running in the house anymore. I can't run a fan because I also have an SGFC in the same area so I took the top poly out completely. I've been misting twice a day. Here is the tub on day 13.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: DrEarnhardt]
#22858725 - 02/03/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: PreparationH]
#22859094 - 02/03/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: Has anyone done this without a casing layer? If not my next mini I will do this way next week or so...
I did a few without a casing and they were fine, but my sub started to dry out a little cause I run a heater.
i think next time I'll use a casing to keep a little moisture on the surface
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