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midnightmaraude
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: stareatclouds]
#22769784 - 01/12/16 11:41 AM (8 years, 19 days ago) |
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Second flush of APE using this method. I think doing it this way also may help curtail the development of trich.
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the_r3dz
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: stareatclouds]
#22769929 - 01/12/16 12:09 PM (8 years, 19 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said:

There's no liner so you can the sub isn't a full block of white, colonized myc. It produced a canopy though.
And what a canopy it produced! Love those bell shaped caps. I was hoping for a canopy but it seems like most of the pins are around the outside edge. As long as they aren't side pins I'm ok with it.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: the_r3dz]
#22770094 - 01/12/16 12:58 PM (8 years, 19 days ago) |
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I have used a liner and not used one with this method, no side pins to speak of without a liner first flush. With the time saved with this method Ive decided not to go for a second flush and just replace it with a new tub, don't have to worry about trich popping up after first flush either but I am still working to resolve my issues.
Right on stare amazing tub brother, spawning an AA+ today with this method expecting good things. Seems like everyone that has used this method so far is sold on it, I've noticed my bulk sub dosen't look as white as taping the holes but the end result has been a bunch of mushrooms.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22770339 - 01/12/16 02:12 PM (8 years, 19 days ago) |
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PE following Azur's model- spawned and cased 1/3/16
 
PE standard model slightly tweaked- spawned to monotub with taped holes 12/27/15; cased at 100% colonization 1/3/16 and IMMEDIATELY threw in polyfil.

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Pastywhyte
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22770357 - 01/12/16 02:17 PM (8 years, 19 days ago) |
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So I am running some minis with this method. Took about 5 days to colonize and about 10 days for the first pins. Did coir case for 2 and jiffy/verm for the other. If either shit the bed and blob out, I suspect it will be the coir as it is really thickly colonized. Coir seems more pron to blobs with bulk. Oddly it does not contrubute to blobs on cased grain and I have cased grain with coir several times and never seen a blob. Neway here is the tubs as of last night, knotting up like mad.
Jiffy/verm

Coir/verm

Pins spotted in the jiffy tubs looked quite normal so far
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22770907 - 01/12/16 04:31 PM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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I notice you aren't putting a liner in some of your tubs huh... I think I will skip a liner next mini I do.
Edited by PreparationH (01/12/16 04:32 PM)
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: PreparationH]
#22770913 - 01/12/16 04:32 PM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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he has a liner
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: cronicr]
#22770916 - 01/12/16 04:34 PM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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look at the pictures on the right side though?
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Pastywhyte
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: PreparationH]
#22771126 - 01/12/16 05:21 PM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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2 tubs have liners 2 do not.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: stareatclouds]
#22771259 - 01/12/16 05:46 PM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
stareatclouds said:

There's no liner so you can the sub isn't a full block of white, colonized myc. It produced a canopy though.
Nice pinset!! I wish I could do that good
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stareatclouds
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: midnightmaraude]
#22771275 - 01/12/16 05:48 PM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
midnightmaraude said:

Second flush of APE using this method. I think doing it this way also may help curtail the development of trich.
I think so too. The constant FAE from the beginning should help ward off trich, I reckon.
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: stareatclouds]
#22771288 - 01/12/16 05:50 PM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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Aren't high CO2 levels supposed to suppress trich according to RR? I'd imagine it's mostly a time advantage with this method. If you're fruiting a week ahead of schedule, trich has less time to do its thing.
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No, this does not look right...
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stareatclouds
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22771336 - 01/12/16 05:58 PM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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Well wouldn't high CO2 levels suppress all sorts of growth since that's not an optimal growing environment? The speeding up probably helps a lot, but I've alwayss read that trich hates lots of air exchange as well.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: stareatclouds]
#22771569 - 01/12/16 06:50 PM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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I'm not saying I have an opinion on it. All second hand information which I have never directly tested. IME a drier environment with air movement and good oxygen saturation of a thinner substrate makes the mycellium healthier than the more stale and wet environment of a monotub.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
Edited by Machiavelliavore (01/12/16 06:51 PM)
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the_r3dz
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22772870 - 01/13/16 12:50 AM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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These looked so much better on my phone, the last one is the best. Pictures taken day 9 and 10. Temps at 66-72f, hopefully I'll have some nice thick fruits. Too cold for my planned pan grows. Those jars are creeeeeeeeeeping along.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22773654 - 01/13/16 08:00 AM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: I'm not saying I have an opinion on it. All second hand information which I have never directly tested. IME a drier environment with air movement and good oxygen saturation of a thinner substrate makes the mycellium healthier than the more stale and wet environment of a monotub.
I have done monos with 1.5-2" sub depths. They seem to dry out way to fast for me in my desert climate when I have them in a monotub. I've also tried a tray on a bed of perlite in a sgfc. I've just spawned a mini mono with a 3-4" sub and its colonizing much better. I think I'm going start exploring the results that thicker subs give me. With the small ones I've tried different tubs. Polyfill tightness. Humidifiers etc. short of a Martha. I think the answer is a thicker sub that provides its own moisture.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22773655 - 01/13/16 08:01 AM (8 years, 18 days ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: I'm not saying I have an opinion on it.
Well you gotta have an opinion, man. I mean do you really think--
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: stareatclouds]
#22778600 - 01/14/16 02:19 PM (8 years, 17 days ago) |
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70% colonized in 4 days ☺
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: morbiddoctor]
#22780921 - 01/15/16 01:23 AM (8 years, 16 days ago) |
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PIN IN 5 DAYS!!! I LOVE IT!
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stareatclouds
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning (moved) [Re: buttermycoface]
#22780988 - 01/15/16 02:13 AM (8 years, 16 days ago) |
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In 5 days? That seems a bit too quick unless it's a mini or something. Pics?
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