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azur
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: blackdust]
#22344479 - 10/07/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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blackdust said: taped holes will win

I beg to differ, on time and weight
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22344493 - 10/07/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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damn, i had a 50/50 shot
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22345083 - 10/07/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur said:
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blackdust said: taped holes will win

I beg to differ, on time and weight
Taped holes wont win.
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Pastywhyte said: Extra O2 will increase metabolism. This is well understood. It might pose a problem for those looking for multiple flushes but for a one and done fella like yerself it only makes sense.
Never caused me any issues with multiple flushes. I Ususlly go 3-5 taped or untaped.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22346429 - 10/07/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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eat, what spawn ratio do you use when going taped? i'm guessing it's pretty high. this is just a guess but could a higher spawn ratio offset the downsides of having an increased metabolism during colonization?
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
#22347372 - 10/07/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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its been some times since ive used poly during colonization but i did 10 tubs that way tonight. when i was doing it a while back id be using some low spawn ratios like 1:4. now im doing closer to 1:2 or more. but was also using uncased bulk substrates with dung and straw in them. i recently did those 10 tubs with dung/coir/verm/gypsum. was too lazy to mess with the straw this time.
ive got p. tamps( 4 quarts grain to 10 quarts substrate), pan jamaica(5 quarts grain to 10 quarts sub), AA+(5 quarts grain to 10 quarts substrate), Syzygy(10 quarts grain to 10 quarts sub). spawn ratio was 1:1 for the Syzygy. and i tried something new. i didn't quite break up all the grain. i left it in big chunks like about the size of a marble to golf ball(this is just messing around to see what happens).
last bulk sub for 10 tubs was:(i constantly change bulk recipes nothing is ever set in stone for me) 6 small bricks coir, 8 quarts verm, 2 quarts gypsum, 4 quarts dung 50 quarts of water at 5 quarts per tub.
sub by volume in 10 tubs was 100 quarts at 10 quarts per tub.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22347676 - 10/07/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22353762 - 10/09/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Second pic is the tub that was spawned, cased, and polied at the same time. First pic is the other tub just cased.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22353788 - 10/09/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are those pins on the bottom right of the 2nd pic? It's hard to tell even when I expand the pic.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
#22353808 - 10/09/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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No. It's an area starting to metabolize. All my tubs do that with hpoo. Here are 3 tubs that are currently pinning that show a good example of it.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22353829 - 10/09/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow! Why do suppose they do that only with hpoo?
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
#22353896 - 10/09/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well not only with hpoo. Just that it happens with hpoo when there's not necessarily any problems.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/10900616
9th paragraph
Colonized poo trays sometimes emit a little honey yellow, to as dark as Tobacco juice colored metabolite type waste on the top of the tray. So long as it colonized nicely & the metabolite waste doesn't turn into a gusher. It's good to go. Been there & done that a few times, especially with big bulk trays that had a strong cow/poo mixture in them. The stuff is commonly called MYC PISS. If it's fully colonized, add a casing cover & go for it. METABOLITES
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22353913 - 10/09/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah. I know what metabolites are. Myc piss is such a stoopid term. I wonder who came up with it?
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
#22353931 - 10/09/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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My point in posting that link was to show that sometimes it just happens and doesn't always mean it's a bad thing.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22353950 - 10/09/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur said: My point in posting that link was to show that sometimes it just happens and doesn't always mean it's a bad thing.
Oh. Okay. I was a little worried about this tub. It's the twin of the tub I posted a pic of last night but not nearly as good a pinset and has some metabolite activity in a few spots.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
#22353965 - 10/09/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wait so you spawned, applied a top layer, and stuffed with poly at the same time on the right tub??
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
#22353972 - 10/09/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks slightly bacterial
Yes wow
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22353977 - 10/09/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So the term "casing" and "top layer" are interchangeable? I guess that's what I'm confused about.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22353986 - 10/09/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wierd. Same spawn, same sub, same everything. The only difference is where the tubs are sitting.
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wowimflabbergasted said: So the term "casing" and "top layer" are interchangeable? I guess that's what I'm confused about.
No, not at all......A top layer is a layer of bulk substrate that gets applied at spawning.
A casing layer is a less nutritious material that gets applied after 100% colonization.
The top layer is just so there are no exposed grains, the casing layer helps aid in moisture retention and pinning at substrate level.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: PussyFart]
#22354008 - 10/09/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's what I thought.
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