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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: blackdust]
    #22344479 - 10/07/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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taped holes will win

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I beg to differ, on time and weight


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22344493 - 10/07/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

damn, i had a 50/50 shot


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22345083 - 10/07/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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blackdust said:
taped holes will win

:elmo:



I beg to differ, on time and weight



Taped holes wont win.

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Extra O2 will increase metabolism. This is well understood. It might pose a problem for those looking for multiple flushes but for a one and done fella like yerself it only makes sense.



Never caused me any issues with multiple flushes. I Ususlly go 3-5 taped or untaped.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22346429 - 10/07/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

eat, what spawn ratio do you use when going taped?  i'm guessing it's pretty high.  this is just a guess but could a higher spawn ratio offset the downsides of having an increased metabolism during colonization? :shrug:


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
    #22347372 - 10/07/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

its been some times since ive used poly during colonization but i did 10 tubs that way tonight. when i was doing it a while back id be using some low spawn ratios like 1:4. now im doing closer to 1:2 or more. but was also using uncased bulk substrates with dung and straw in them. i recently did those 10 tubs with dung/coir/verm/gypsum. was too lazy to mess with the straw this time.

ive got p. tamps( 4 quarts grain to 10 quarts substrate), pan jamaica(5 quarts grain to 10 quarts sub), AA+(5 quarts grain to 10 quarts substrate), Syzygy(10 quarts grain to 10 quarts sub). spawn ratio was 1:1 for the Syzygy. and i tried something new. i didn't quite break up all the grain. i left it in big chunks like about the size of a marble to golf ball(this is just messing around to see what happens).

last bulk sub for 10 tubs was:(i constantly change bulk recipes nothing is ever set in stone for me)

6 small bricks coir,
8 quarts verm,
2 quarts gypsum,
4 quarts dung
50 quarts of water at 5 quarts per tub.

sub by volume in 10 tubs was 100 quarts at 10 quarts per tub.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22347676 - 10/07/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22353762 - 10/09/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Second pic is the tub that was spawned, cased, and polied at the same time.
First pic is the other tub just cased.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22353788 - 10/09/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Are those pins on the bottom right of the 2nd pic? It's hard to tell even when I expand the pic.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
    #22353808 - 10/09/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No. It's an area starting to metabolize.
All my tubs do that with hpoo.
Here are 3 tubs that are currently pinning that show a good example of it.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22353829 - 10/09/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wow! Why do suppose they do that only with hpoo?


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
    #22353896 - 10/09/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well not only with hpoo. Just that it happens with hpoo when there's not necessarily any problems.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/10900616

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Colonized poo trays sometimes emit a little honey yellow, to as dark as Tobacco juice colored metabolite type waste on the top of the tray. So long as it colonized nicely & the metabolite waste doesn't turn into a gusher. It's good to go. Been there & done that a few times, especially with big bulk trays that had a strong cow/poo mixture in them. The stuff is commonly called MYC PISS. If it's fully colonized, add a casing cover & go for it. METABOLITES


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22353913 - 10/09/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah. :lol: I know what metabolites are. Myc piss is such a stoopid term. I wonder who came up with it?


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
    #22353931 - 10/09/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My point in posting that link was to show that sometimes it just happens and doesn't always mean it's a bad thing.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22353950 - 10/09/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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My point in posting that link was to show that sometimes it just happens and doesn't always mean it's a bad thing.




Oh. Okay. I was a little worried about this tub. It's the twin of the tub I posted a pic of last night but not nearly as good a pinset and has some metabolite activity in a few spots.



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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
    #22353965 - 10/09/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wait so you spawned, applied a top layer, and stuffed with poly at the same time on the right tub??


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
    #22353972 - 10/09/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Looks slightly bacterial


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22353977 - 10/09/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So the term "casing" and "top layer" are interchangeable? I guess that's what I'm confused about.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22353986 - 10/09/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wierd. Same spawn, same sub, same everything. The only difference is where the tubs are sitting.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #22353991 - 10/09/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So the term "casing" and "top layer" are interchangeable? I guess that's what I'm confused about.



No, not at all......A top layer is a layer of bulk substrate that gets applied at spawning.

A casing layer is a less nutritious material that gets applied after 100% colonization.

The top layer is just so there are no exposed grains, the casing layer helps aid in moisture retention and pinning at substrate level.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: PussyFart]
    #22354008 - 10/09/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's what I thought.


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