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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #22553352 - 11/20/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

depends on how ya think about it i guess,less mush per tub but more per qt of spawn


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: cronicr]
    #22553369 - 11/20/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yes cron, if you're calculating BE. I just calculate lb :wink:


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22553990 - 11/21/15 02:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)


You are spawning to a bulk substrate but instead of taping holes or bagging the tub you are literally just putting the polyfill in and using your light source and it's colonizing then fruiting faster?  I'm going to do this soon.

Edit: Azur why is it you only case Pe and APE btw?  I will be doing this with a mini tub and I think the spores are Cambodians.  If I don't case is there going to be much difference in yield?  I'd prefer not to case as a way to just avoid more steps.  Also with a mini tub does anyone have hole size recommendations?


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: PreparationH]
    #22554010 - 11/21/15 02:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nice thread Azur. Very informative.

I've tried to do this in the past, but I kept running in to issues. In retrospect, I can see some other contributing factors that may have caused my problems, so I may give it a whirl, again.

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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #22554387 - 11/21/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You are spawning to a bulk substrate but instead of taping holes or bagging the tub you are literally just putting the polyfill in and using your light source and it's colonizing then fruiting faster?  I'm going to do this soon.

Edit: Azur why is it you only case Pe and APE btw?  I will be doing this with a mini tub and I think the spores are Cambodians.  If I don't case is there going to be much difference in yield?  I'd prefer not to case as a way to just avoid more steps.  Also with a mini tub does anyone have hole size recommendations?




You don't need to case. I only case pe varieties because i personally feel they need it.
When i ran mini tubs i used 1 1/2" holes. But it doesn't matter. Whatever size you feel like drilling is fine.


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Nice thread Azur. Very informative.

I've tried to do this in the past, but I kept running in to issues. In retrospect, I can see some other contributing factors that may have caused my problems, so I may give it a whirl, again.

:peace:



Thanks dude. Idk what your other factors were, but running a fan could dry things out and create the need to mist.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22554816 - 11/21/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, later, I discovered my HVAC was causing to much circulation in the room even for my traditional style monos. I didn't have HVAC at my previous place, so it took me a minute to figure it out.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22554930 - 11/21/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Has anyone reported on differences or traits of multiple flushes? I don't have any theories as to why something would be different, but azur's tubs are one-and-done so it may be something for us to check.

My tub is still knotting up.



im uploading a few 2nd flushers soon. ive got forearm long fruits!


so i actually dialed in a few tubs like frank and they didn't get enough fae. should have taken the poly in all top holes out.


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I do get killer 1st flushes. Why wait for a 2nd shitty flush when if you build a new tub the day you harvest the first flush, you'll get a new 1st flush just a few days after you would have gotten the shitty 2nd flush?  Elementary if you ask me.




i usually go 2-3 and dump depending on if i need the tubs or not. if i have space and don't have anything to fill the tubs ill go 2. but recently all my flushes are 8z dry so im not real sure i need the 2nd flushes anyway. the 2nd flushes are turning out to be some monsterous fruits though. i have a bunch of lid hitters.

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Nice thread Azur. Very informative.

I've tried to do this in the past, but I kept running in to issues. In retrospect, I can see some other contributing factors that may have caused my problems, so I may give it a whirl, again.

:peace:



pasty had a real good point about climate. desert, dry during the winter due to heater ect. moist climates, swamps may be the determining factor of what you do with the polyfil. i tried dialing 4 of the tubs in the earlier posted grows and its obvious they weren't getting enough fae. while tubs with medium in all holes were. in addition, those tubs that were dialed in, i should have taken out the polyfil completely. the density of the flush along with the moisture the flush produced proved superior to the fae the tubs were getting.

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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22554974 - 11/21/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I remember having a similar conversation with you a while back when you told me you didn't tape but you colonized in a cabinet sort of thing. I just figured the cabinet was why you could do it and I couldn't. I don't think I realized my HVAC issue back then, so I might can do it now.

I'll have to try it when I get back to growing again. I might need to case though because my RH is low this time of year.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: SpitballJedi] * 1
    #22555933 - 11/21/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

yeah cabinet or closet. but when the tubs start fruiting the fan is turned on. so the other tubs that are freshly built have airflow.
its awesome.

personally its just a different way. more active fae for me rather than the passive fae. good luck!

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additionally,

here are the 2nd flush monsters i was talking about stare. they were lid hitters. fore arm size fruits. you can see a giant smurfs forearm in the picture.



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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22556119 - 11/21/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

so here are the tubs that were dialed in. top holes were loose.  same setup. you can even see where i had to remove one of the polyfil tops in one pic.



these had medium poly in all holes. airflow was the same in all tubs in the setup. after the flush is over. the tubs are either dunked. or misted heavily. then taken out of the closet setup and placed into the ceiling fan setup. but the poly is then loosened in the tops on the 2nd flushes.



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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22556163 - 11/21/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What substrate did you use and how did you inoculate?


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Trippysubstance]
    #22556743 - 11/21/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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What substrate did you use and how did you inoculate?



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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22556931 - 11/21/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

what do you think is better

coir/verm or coir/verm/gypsum


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Trippysubstance]
    #22556942 - 11/21/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Gypsum is always a good thing.
Really it just helps to insure you have a healthier crop


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22556979 - 11/21/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

im a sub mixologist. i like adding all kinds of crazy things. there isn't one i prefer. but my favorite is horse poo!

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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22557062 - 11/21/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What is everything you have used as substrate?


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Trippysubstance]
    #22557071 - 11/21/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: cronicr]
    #22557132 - 11/21/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I said that a few days ago


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22557983 - 11/21/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

who you think that is?


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22558009 - 11/21/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I don't care enough to think about it


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