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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
    #22429541 - 10/24/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

ah i didn't catch your ninja edit.

i always slightly fuck up the temps while pasteurizing.  i use jars and it's just a pain in the ass baby sitting it.  i haven't though about the oven but using left over bucket'd cvg sounds way easier.

plus, i'm growing pans soon and i'll be pastuerizing manure.  i want to save my energy for pastuerizing important stuff, not things that can be done uncased (GT) or bucketed.



thanks again, azur, this is an amazing thread and it's really opened up my mind to making things easier


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
    #22429548 - 10/24/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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pasty, is that how you did the APE in your sig?  (cased with coir?)




Its not APE in the sig but the tub on the left was cased with coir. The one one the right was uncased.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22429556 - 10/24/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd like to suggest someone do a side by side with a 6 hole mono medium stuffing vs. a 12 or 14 hole mono stuffed tight (I've seen muda do that).  In theory the FAE should be similar but reduce moisture loss.  I have no idea if it's better but it sounds good on paper.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22429558 - 10/24/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

oh i meant when you hover over the pic on the right.  it takes you to this thread and the first thing to pop up is APE:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=19238883&page=0&vc=1#19238883


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
    #22429568 - 10/24/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's all about speed man. Getting into a cycle and making that cycle rotate faster.
I use hpoo/verm pretty much exclusively. I also pasteurize in jars. I've done it in bags, but that can bite you in the ass.
The tub i used as the experiment in this thread pulled 7.45 dry ounces on that flush. And they had gotten blotch!
Maximizing your first flush yield is also key on overall production.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
    #22429585 - 10/24/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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ah i didn't catch your ninja edit.

i always slightly fuck up the temps while pasteurizing.  i use jars and it's just a pain in the ass baby sitting it.  i haven't though about the oven but using left over bucket'd cvg sounds way easier.

plus, i'm growing pans soon and i'll be pastuerizing manure.  i want to save my energy for pastuerizing important stuff, not things that can be done uncased (GT) or bucketed.



thanks again, azur, this is an amazing thread and it's really opened up my mind to making things easier



yeah im bad with typos so i go back and fix a bunch of them. i type way too fast.

haha good eye. yeah i don't have time to babysit things like that.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22429595 - 10/24/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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7.45 dry ounces on that flush. And they had gotten blotch!
Maximizing your first flush yield is also key on overall production.



:wow:  nearly 8oz on first flush? damn
and it saves on space too :thumbup:


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
    #22429615 - 10/24/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I broke it down in aaw about 6 months ago. Good luck finding it, but i think with 10 tubs doing only 1st flushes of high yields, you could grow 60 lbs a year vs 40 lbs a year wasting time waiting around on 2nd flushes. I wish i could find that thread cause I'm too stoned to do the math again.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22429627 - 10/24/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I broke it down in aaw about 6 months ago. Good luck finding it, but i think with 10 tubs doing only 1st flushes of high yields, you could grow 60 lbs a year vs 40 lbs a year wasting time waiting around on 2nd flushes. I wish i could find that thread cause I'm too stoned to do the math again.
If you can find it, I'll send you a goody box. And i don't fuck around with my gift giving



yea i read it a while back :thumbup:  i don't remember where it was though.  right on :thumbup:


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22429681 - 10/24/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

yeah you will never find it in aaw. its like a bottomless pit.

yeah ive converted my entire setup now to poly in during spawning, high spawn ratios, less tubs. higher be. and ive also started using dung again!:rockon:


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
    #22429706 - 10/24/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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oh i meant when you hover over the pic on the right.  it takes you to this thread and the first thing to pop up is APE:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=19238883&page=0&vc=1#19238883



The first couple tubs in there are coir case. You can tell the peat ones cause they are darker.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22429712 - 10/24/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

All of those things ftw


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22437772 - 10/26/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Some Cornmeal Plate Liquid Inoculation AA+ tubs coming along nicely! This is with polyfil stuffed in the entire process. so there are two experiments going on at once.(as usual, it calms the mind)

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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22437786 - 10/26/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That a boy eat. How many days ago did you spawn?
Think about all the time and mushrooms wasted since people started covering the holes!


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22437911 - 10/26/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Cant wait eat, your tubs always look badass so I'm sure these will too! The time i guess is the real question here.

Gonna spawn me a tub here soon with a clone that up until now needed a lot of consolidation to do well. When consolidated yields would be spectacular. If not the first flush was usually pretty uneven. Going to see if poly in holes during spawn run helps this. This clone is not PE, tho I really like it.



oh yeah pasty, if its anything like the substrate as casing method, it shows pins in a week! im fairly confident i will see pins in a week.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22437935 - 10/26/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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That a boy eat. How many days ago did you spawn?
Think about all the time and mushrooms wasted since people started covering the holes!



this process was done very slowly due to family, vacation, car crash ect. lol

so 10.6.15 was the spawn date. let the tub colonize a little longer than normal.
but i wanted to illustrate a few grows with the polyfil stuffed medium in all holes. just to show it works perfectly without doing anything fancy.

all these big expansive explanations for fae and gas exchange aren't 100%. medium poly in all holes the entire process with no taping of holes during incubation works well. not sure when people started taping up holes for colonization. i mean it does work. but why take the extra step of putting tape. removing the tape, then putting polyfil in? your doing 3 steps now. who has time for that unless your only doing 1 tub at a time then it won't matter. but shaving off days and a up to a week off of grows makes a huge difference for those that are in the know.

simple isn't always simple when people make it complicated. the entire idea behind the monotub and dub tub was to do nothing. set and forget was the lingo.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22438092 - 10/26/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Cant wait eat, your tubs always look badass so I'm sure these will too! The time i guess is the real question here.

Gonna spawn me a tub here soon with a clone that up until now needed a lot of consolidation to do well. When consolidated yields would be spectacular. If not the first flush was usually pretty uneven. Going to see if poly in holes during spawn run helps this. This clone is not PE, tho I really like it.



oh yeah pasty, if its anything like the substrate as casing method, it shows pins in a week! im fairly confident i will see pins in a week.




Well I spawned it last night and it looks pretty good already IMO. Will keep posted.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22438144 - 10/26/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
    #22438483 - 10/27/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Buck513]
    #22438996 - 10/27/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for this info :thumbup:


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