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azur
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22424597 - 10/23/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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No top layer. I mix the spawn and substrate evenly, then smooth it out and add a casing layer.
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eatyualive
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22424631 - 10/23/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sweet!
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22425077 - 10/23/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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eatyualive said: and the easiest method is to put the polyfil in during spawning, let it colonize, induce to fruiting. and let it be. which really means, let the tub fruit itself. you don't have to do anything special.
Hell Yes! It doesn't get any easier than this!
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: jbaby007]
#22425398 - 10/24/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you dont turn on the fan from thr beginning! People up there told me its ok to turn the fan on and the 12/12 light.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: oontribe]
#22425438 - 10/24/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You gotta start reading the thread dude. I only spoon feed information to fake titted girls with slutty attitudes. When i ran a fan, i did it from the beginning. I actually prefer to not run a fan, but I've found with a casing layer a fan helps keep blotch away. Try it without a fan first. Then after that tub, try it with a fan. Then decide which one you like better. And that goes with everything in this hobby. What works for one person won't always work for another. But it's not rocket science and a little experimenting of your own goes a long way.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22426321 - 10/24/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also my situation is slightly different. I believe different environmental conditions have alot to do with it. Example If you live in a desert or a swamp may determine what is needed.
AZ, the tubs I'm spawning tonight I'm doing exactly like yours with casing at spawning!
Edited by eatyualive (10/24/15 09:21 AM)
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22426327 - 10/24/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Environment can change a lot too. If you're running the AC during the Summer or Heat during the Winter you'll have a lot less RH in your house even in more humid climates.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22426334 - 10/24/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Exactly. Summertime outside in my environment has over 50rh. But inside with ac running rh is 50%. In higher rh environments I can see where the fan on the entire time is beneficial. In fact, on the next round I already have fans running for fruiting so the tubs will have a fan running during incubation(colonization .. ).
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22426342 - 10/24/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok iam still considering myself a noob...its a dry climate where i live...would you still run a fan?
And what is the idea of the need to build up humidity and not tapping the holes at the same time?
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: oontribe]
#22426433 - 10/24/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you live in a dry area, i would try medium poly in all holes and no fan.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
#22429314 - 10/24/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok spawned 5 tubs today casing at the same time as spawning.
Bulk subs(4 tubs): 3 bricks coir 6 quarts verm 1 quart gypsum 2 quarts comppost/manure
casing was(4 tubs): 1 brick coir 2 quarts verm handfull of gypsum
5 quarts oat spawn used per tub

cleaned the tub with bleach wipes, put polyfil stuffed medium in each hole. placed a 30 gallon trash bag as the liner.

Dumped my pasteurized sub mix from the turkey tin after it was cooked in the oven.

Broke up 5 quarts of oat spawn

mixed it up nice and even. made sure the top was as level as i could get it by eye

added the casing about 1/4" depth per tub.

and now the fun begins!

also here is an update to the AA+. this is tub 1. looking decent so far.
Edited by eatyualive (10/24/15 08:48 PM)
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22429339 - 10/24/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cant wait eat, your tubs always look badass so I'm sure these will too! The time i guess is the real question here.
Gonna spawn me a tub here soon with a clone that up until now needed a lot of consolidation to do well. When consolidated yields would be spectacular. If not the first flush was usually pretty uneven. Going to see if poly in holes during spawn run helps this. This clone is not PE, tho I really like it.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22429427 - 10/24/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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cool eat
i also started a small experiment today...
PE (ms) I don't have a PE clone yet so it's multispore for now. take this experiment with a grain of salt my goal isn't to measure yields... it's just to see if the pinning times are significantly different and see if i can get away without using a casing layer.
sub: 1 brick coir, 2 qt verm, handful of gypsum, 4.5 qt water spawn: 5qts of oats per tub
tub #1 (i made this tub 6 days ago, that's why it looks further along than the others) To be grown how most people do PE nowadays. Tape up the holes, let colonize to 100%, case with 1/4" of 50/50+, fruit immediately and mist accordingly

tub #2 I added the 1/4" casing layer of 50/50+ immediately upon spawning. Put into fruiting conditions immediately so it can colonize with medium stuffed polyfil in all holes.

tub #3 This one i'm going to attempt to fruit uncased. I put it into fruiting conditions right away so it can colonize with medium stuffed polyfil in all holes.

I have an idea for another test but don't have enough PE spawn. My idea was to let a tub colonize with polyfil, then throw a thin layer of CVG on top when it reaches 100% and leave it be. My goal is to grow PE but get away from pastuerizing the casing layer. I really like the bucket tek and often end up with extra CVG and want to make use of it maybe i'll try it out next week when the rest of my PE spawn is ready.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
#22429482 - 10/24/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah your last idea will work well. i do this often. in fact the first batch of tubs i posted in this thread were done that way. i waited until 100% colonization and then cased with cvg. ive always used coir/verm as a casing since 2001. 
i like it better than peat because i don't have to think about buffering it. and using some leftover sub is always easy! i did a years worth of grows messing around with the substrate as casing layer. i guess i should post the thread here some day. i was talking with fahtster about it a while back with his old but fun method.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22429497 - 10/24/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Exactly eat. I remember when I first started, peat seemed like such a pain yet everyone swore coir was no good. But I went through some really old posts and I saw that it seemed pretty decent for some of the old timers. So I gave it a try and swear by it now.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22429503 - 10/24/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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that's great news. hopefully the uncased one works out ok but if it doesn't, the cvg-psuedo casing sounds promising
i just hate pasteurizing!
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22429508 - 10/24/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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pasty, is that how you did the APE in your sig? (cased with coir?)
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
#22429511 - 10/24/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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it will man in my sig all those 3 images are done with no casing and poly holes in the entire time! azur and i have been arguing with everyone about this for the last few years. why do you hate pasteurizing?
for me its easy. i can fit 5 tubs worth of substrate in the oven. and i just put it in there. let it cook for 2.5 hours. let it cool and its done. i don't toy with anything. its extremely easy. easier than cutting cake.(im horrible at cutting cake)
Edited by eatyualive (10/24/15 09:22 PM)
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22429527 - 10/24/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice!!! me so excited
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: FriedEgg]
#22429533 - 10/24/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You'll be happy you're doing this dude
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