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Themushroomman47
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No pins, PLEASE HELP!!
#22315667 - 09/30/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I'm new to growing mushies. I like most everyone else partaking in this hobby have read every form available to help yet I have some personalized questions. I'm growing using the PF tek with BRF cakes, so far I have had only one issue with contams out of roughly 30 jars *knock on wood* currently I have 4 fully colonized cakes in my SGFC and they went in at different times. Now I've been experimenting with methods of fruiting, two of my cakes have been dunked and rolled in verm and two have not. My cake that has been in the chamber the longest (has not been dunked or rolled) just got its first pin roughly 4 or 5 days ago, the strange thing is, there is merely one pin, i have been expecting more to develop over this time but the only change i have noted is the growth of the first pin. This first pin has been growing extremely slowly as well I might add. Now I will post pictures of my set up, but there is a little more info on my setup. I fruit my cakes in a SGFC keeping the temperature between 20-24 degrees celcius. This morning, I Saran rapped the sides of the tub because I think it could be lack of humidity causing my issues, with this I have increased fanning and slightly decreased misting. I alternate between manually fanning between misting, and running a box fan for an hour and I have a humidity gauge in there that constantly reads 92 rH but I'm Fairly certain it's almost 100% innacurate. (I'm getting a higher quality humidity gauge) I have also taken the liberty to elevate my tub on top of pint mason jars so airflow can be better. Despite all this, I still can't figure out the lack of pinning, I genuinely don't think it is FAE, possibly humidity. What do you think? wondering these 3 things. 1. Why do I only see one pin out of 4 cakes 2. Why is the single pin growing so slowly 3. What can I do?
Pictures of my setup

My lonely pin is in the back right corner

My SGFC as of today

The jars underneath it
P.S. The fifth cake in the very front (closest to camera) I am Not worried about, those are blue oysters I'm growing them to divert any suspicion. I'm simply worried about the cubes. Also I did not leave my cakes in the jars long enough to see pins invetro, and did not allow for consolidation although I still assume that if I see one pin I should be starting To see others even dispite these two things
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NDStepp84
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Hello and welcome to the Shroomery! You are having problems because you are experimenting and changing proven teks on your first grow http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22144051/page/4 Not dunking and rolling, not misting, wrapping your SGFC in plastic, having a fan on your SGFC, not consolidating are all good reasons for not pinning.
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Edited by NDStepp84 (09/30/15 07:43 PM)
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Re: No pins, PLEASE HELP!! [Re: NDStepp84]
#22315986 - 09/30/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you not have holes in the top? Can't see them in the pic.
How long has the oldest one been in FC?
If you did not allow for consolidation while in the jar, they probably wont fruit for another week.
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Re: No pins, PLEASE HELP!! [Re: NDStepp84]
#22316019 - 09/30/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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NDStepp84 said: Hello and welcome to the Shroomery! You are having problems because you are experimenting and changing proven teks on your first grow http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22144051/page/4 Not dunking and rolling, not misting, wrapping your SGFC in plastic, having a fan on your SGFC, not consolidating are all good reasons for not pinning.

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Themushroomman47
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Re: No pins, PLEASE HELP!! [Re: mwhtmn]
#22316224 - 09/30/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I do have holes in the lid, as per the other comments what would you suggest I do then
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Themushroomman47 said: I do have holes in the lid, as per the other comments what would you suggest I do then
Follow the tek....instead of cutting corners. That never turns out well if you do that. Believe me all of us have tried cheating the shit and it always turns around to bite your ass...Do it right the first time.
If I could give any person whose new to this any advice it would be to just spend the money and do it right the first time. I cant say it enough...build the sgfc right the first time, mix your jars right the first time, do it ALL by the tek..
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Re: No pins, PLEASE HELP!! [Re: EntheoGod]
#22316282 - 09/30/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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mwhtmn
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Re: No pins, PLEASE HELP!! [Re: EntheoGod]
#22316297 - 09/30/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Follow the tek... Do it right the first time.
If I could give any person whose new to this any advice it would be to just spend the money and do it right the first time. I cant say it enough...build the sgfc right the first time, mix your jars right the first time, do it ALL by the tek..
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Re: No pins, PLEASE HELP!! [Re: mwhtmn] 1
#22316316 - 09/30/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What's with the fan?
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EntheoGod
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Re: No pins, PLEASE HELP!! [Re: mwhtmn]
#22316422 - 09/30/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol why thank ya! 
This needs told to every noob ever to join this forum.
I feel like it should be some notification or message that you get as soon as you register that says follow the tek exactly or else you cannot complain about your grows doing bad. The guide of how to follow a tek should be required reading for all. I even did this stupid shit when I first started too tried creating a self humidifying chamber and that all went to shit. I spent more money fucking things up than I did doing things right. I could have spent way less money to just do things right the first time instead of having to waste money and go back to the store to buy more material that could have been bought the first time.
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Re: No pins, PLEASE HELP!! [Re: EntheoGod]
#22316500 - 09/30/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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EntheoGod said: I even did this stupid shit when I first started too tried creating a self humidifying chamber and that all went to shit. I spent more money fucking things up than I did doing things right. I could have spent way less money to just do things right the first time instead of having to waste money and go back to the store to buy more material that could have been bought the first time.

oh im right there with ya
Edited by aerow.thefox (09/30/15 09:45 PM)
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NDStepp84
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Re: No pins, PLEASE HELP!! [Re: EntheoGod]
#22316522 - 09/30/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol, yep. No supercharged direct mist injection manifolds needed, just a SGFC and a spray bottle. As a beginner if you think of something that you think might work better, you can bet that someone has tried it and failed or we all would be doing it, no one is keeping it a secret.
It's great to learn from your mistakes, but better to learn by others.
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mwhtmn
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PinPornProducer said: What's with the fan?
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Re: No pins, PLEASE HELP!! [Re: mwhtmn]
#22316683 - 09/30/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Glad I wasn't the only one. Mine took about a week to start pinning,then seemed to stall. I'm sure mine was related to misting and possibly not enough perlite. I thought I was misting enough, but turns out i wasn't misting enough water at a time which led to them being kind of dry on the outside. Idk why you would need saran wrap if you followed Tek 2in grid 1/4 in holes all 6 sides. They don't look to lit up either. 6500k light? The only pin was closest to light. Could be coincidence IDK. I'm a newb as well. May need to have light on top and fan them often... Probably NOT with a box fan, if that's what your using.
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