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Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... 3
#22315489 - 09/30/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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First baby killing, then forcing bakeries and religious people to violate their beliefs, and now this, is there any depth these sick fuckers won't go???
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/im_a_pedophile_youre_the_monsters_my_week_inside_the_vile_right_wing_hate_machine/
And then of course, they blame the "right wing" for being mean...
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse] 2
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So an article from the perspective of a pedophile is normalizing it? I thought the article was pretty good. Guy brings up all sorts of good points like why isn't there free therapy for the pedos who haven't offended but are feeling urges? What is your opinion on treatment? Kill them all? Well we aren't going to do that so what do you have to add to the discussion besides blind rage? How is the "kill them all" attitude helping children anyway? Why is understanding how they think bad? I read all the articles i can on serial killers and what they think, why can't I read about different classes of sex offenders? Ignorance on this subject helps no one. I would think knowing as much as we can about these people is good for everyone. Peodophiles who are out of the closet are going to be watched more closely, so why exactly are you people shouting at this guy to shut up? It seems to me the other side doesn't care about children, and it creates a climate where a rape is more likely to turn into a murder. It seems more about getting all your rage out and not about the children at all.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: my3rdeye]
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yeah, "liberals"
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said: First baby killing, then forcing bakeries and religious people to violate their beliefs, and now this, is there any depth these sick fuckers won't go???
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/im_a_pedophile_youre_the_monsters_my_week_inside_the_vile_right_wing_hate_machine/
And then of course, they blame the "right wing" for being mean...
How exactly can you accomplish getting every rating as a zero? There is a broad spectrum of viewpoints on here, so it's not ideological.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Brian Jones]
#22317979 - 10/01/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: How exactly can you accomplish getting every rating as a zero? There is a broad spectrum of viewpoints on here, so it's not ideological.
By parroting everything he sees and reads on such places as Breitbart, Infowars and Fox.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Le_Canard]
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It's extremely annoying.
Like having a (few) 10 year old(s) in my university political science class, that I'm forced to respect.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: my3rdeye]
#22318015 - 10/01/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said: So an article from the perspective of a pedophile is normalizing it? I thought the article was pretty good. Guy brings up all sorts of good points like why isn't there free therapy for the pedos who haven't offended but are feeling urges? What is your opinion on treatment? Kill them all? Well we aren't going to do that so what do you have to add to the discussion besides blind rage? How is the "kill them all" attitude helping children anyway? Why is understanding how they think bad? I read all the articles i can on serial killers and what they think, why can't I read about different classes of sex offenders? Ignorance on this subject helps no one. I would think knowing as much as we can about these people is good for everyone. Peodophiles who are out of the closet are going to be watched more closely, so why exactly are you people shouting at this guy to shut up? It seems to me the other side doesn't care about children, and it creates a climate where a rape is more likely to turn into a murder. It seems more about getting all your rage out and not about the children at all.
A well thought out response, however wasted on OP.
As societies continue to repress themselves less and less, we're going to have to take a serious look at age of consent, as well as the worship of youth. But as far as pedophilia in the more strict sense, there really aren't any ideal solutions. As is often the case with unfortunate problems like these: education, awareness, treatment, prevention seem to be the best route.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Brian Jones]
#22318218 - 10/01/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: How exactly can you accomplish getting every rating as a zero? There is a broad spectrum of viewpoints on here, so it's not ideological.
He stormed into mush cult with a bunch of I've never grown but this is how it's done posts. Then he hopped down here and started making posts like this.
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hostileuniverse said: People who really think this infringes on "freedom of speech" are blatantly retarded, there are limits to free speech. when pulled over, is it lawful to cuss out the officer? "Fuck you pig and you're worthless whore mother!" Or how about the proverbial "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre"? Fucking libs and their BS...
Basic territorial pissing shit.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Any sane decent civilized human being knows it's wrong to have sex with kids. Are you saying, you, yourself don't understand that ? Are you defending pedos?
Its wrong, what more do you need to know? Someone that has sexual urges towards kids is mentally sick, what more is there to understand?
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: paperbackwriter]
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paperbackwriter said:
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Brian Jones said: How exactly can you accomplish getting every rating as a zero? There is a broad spectrum of viewpoints on here, so it's not ideological.
He stormed into mush cult with a bunch of I've never grown but this is how it's done posts. Then he hopped down here and started making posts like this.
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hostileuniverse said: People who really think this infringes on "freedom of speech" are blatantly retarded, there are limits to free speech. when pulled over, is it lawful to cuss out the officer? "Fuck you pig and you're worthless whore mother!" Or how about the proverbial "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre"? Fucking libs and their BS...
Basic territorial pissing shit.
What's even funnier is that the Supreme Court JUST ruled that you're within your rights to cuss out police officers.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: MightyWhite]
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MightyWhite said: Any sane decent civilized human being knows it's wrong to have sex with kids. Are you saying, you, yourself don't understand that ? Are you defending pedos?
Its wrong, what more do you need to know? Someone that has sexual urges towards kids is mentally sick, what more is there to understand?
Exactly! What worse is "people" (cause I don't wanna offend the sensitive liberals here) are now saying we should "understand" and be "compassionate" toward people that fuck kids... It's absolutely amazing to me that they would try to justify it...
I think someone asked, what should be done? My answer, is execute them, immediately...
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse] 2
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Execute the people even you admit are mentally sick.
Another brilliant plan from our resident political genius.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#22318560 - 10/01/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Execute the people even you admit are mentally sick.
Another brilliant plan from our resident political genius.
Do you have a better idea? No, didn't think so, keep trolling, it's obviously working out well for you...
i don't want to house them forever, that's a colossal waste of money, wrecking the childhood, and in some cases the life of someone is unforgivable, by any sane rational thinking person...
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: Execute the people even you admit are mentally sick.
Another brilliant plan from our resident political genius.
Do you have a better idea? No, didn't think so, keep trolling, it's obviously working out well for you...
Any sane, rational thinking person would have read my response to the problem before assuming I had no response to the problem:
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The Ecstatic said:
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my3rdeye said: So an article from the perspective of a pedophile is normalizing it? I thought the article was pretty good. Guy brings up all sorts of good points like why isn't there free therapy for the pedos who haven't offended but are feeling urges? What is your opinion on treatment? Kill them all? Well we aren't going to do that so what do you have to add to the discussion besides blind rage? How is the "kill them all" attitude helping children anyway? Why is understanding how they think bad? I read all the articles i can on serial killers and what they think, why can't I read about different classes of sex offenders? Ignorance on this subject helps no one. I would think knowing as much as we can about these people is good for everyone. Peodophiles who are out of the closet are going to be watched more closely, so why exactly are you people shouting at this guy to shut up? It seems to me the other side doesn't care about children, and it creates a climate where a rape is more likely to turn into a murder. It seems more about getting all your rage out and not about the children at all.
A well thought out response, however wasted on OP.
As societies continue to repress themselves less and less, we're going to have to take a serious look at age of consent, as well as the worship of youth. But as far as pedophilia in the more strict sense, there really aren't any ideal solutions. As is often the case with unfortunate problems like these: education, awareness, treatment, prevention seem to be the best route.
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If we are going to start offing mentally ill people , let's start with these fuckers . Quote:
conservative Pedophiles
Please distribute - and share with your children - beware these sexual predators, esp. in neighborhoods that the Republican deviants reside in. Thank you - AC
# Republican U.S. Justice Department official John David R. Atchison, 53, an assistant U.S. attorney from the northern district of Florida, has been arrested on suspicion of traveling to Detroit over the weekend to have sex with a 5 year old child. An undercover officer posed as a mother offering her child to Atchison for sex, according to police. In deposition, detectives said Atchison suggested the mother tell her daughter that "you found her a sweet boyfriend who will bring her presents." The undercover detective expressed concern about physical injury to the 5-year-old girl as a result of the sexual activity. Detectives said Atchison responded, " I am always gentle and loving; not to worry, no damage ever, no rough stuff ever. I only like it soft and nice." The undercover detective asked how Atchison can be certain of no injury. He responded, "Just gotta go slow and very easy. I've done it plenty," according to detectives.
# Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
# The former head of the Michigan Federation of Young Republicans, Michael Flory, admitted Tuesday that he sexually abused a colleague during a national convention in Cleveland last summer pleaded guilty to sexual battery on the day his rape trial was to begin
Brian J. Doyle, the Deputy Press Secretary for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Office of Public Affairs in Washington, was arrested on 23 Polk County charges related to the use of a computer to seduce a child and transmitting harmful materials to a minor. 7 counts Use of a Computer to Seduce a Child, and 16 counts of Transmission of Harmful Material to a Minor.
Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” e-mails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year-old boy.
Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper was arrested for soliciting sex from a 13-year-old girl on the Internet.
Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year-old girl.
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year-old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year-old girl and was sentenced to 10 years’ probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year-old boy.
Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13- and 14-year-old girls.
Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year-old girls.
Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the Internet.
Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year-old girls.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year-old girl he murdered.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years’ probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year-old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year-old black girl, which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year-old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his stepdaughter.
Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year-old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year-old babysitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk-show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11-year-old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year-old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the Internet from a 14-year-old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year-old boy.
Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e., exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year-old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a boy.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year-old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6 months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the Internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year-old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year-old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner’s report here and his full report here. http://www.newsfollowup.com/children.htm#bryant
Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: psilynut]
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Don't forget about conservative hero Margaret Thatcher shielding pedophiles from investigation and prosecution during her tenure as PM in England.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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lets also not forget about this ,
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abet their criminal misconduct.[2] In 2004, the John Jay report tabulated a total of 4,392 priests and deacons in the U.S. against whom allegations of sexual abuse had been made. The numbers of abuse allegations and court cases has increased worldwide sin
I bet every single one of them vote conservative .
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To put things in perspective many pedophiles were victims of sexual assault themselves and never got the help they needed to process what happened to them. Many pedophiles prey on their own family members which adds to the victims confusion and possible guilt (keep in mind these are kids) when their cousin, dad, uncle, etc. goes to prison and gets beat, raped, and possibly killed.
And so the cycle repeats.
I do think rehabilitation of offenders and counseling for victims of sexual assault would be the most likely way to break the cycle.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: paperbackwriter]
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That sounds good, but rehabilitation of these offenders, frequently, and more often than not doesn't work, and they keep doing it when they get out.
It is a well known fact now that locking someone up for life actually cost quite less than executing them. And as far as the guy who said "just shoot them", sometimes there are false accusations.
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hostileuniverse said: First baby killing, then forcing bakeries and religious people to violate their beliefs, and now this, is there any depth these sick fuckers won't go???
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/im_a_pedophile_youre_the_monsters_my_week_inside_the_vile_right_wing_hate_machine/
And then of course, they blame the "right wing" for being mean...
Pedophilia is a mental disorder caused by numerous reasons. You cannot treat them as an common criminal, but they cannot be in the public around children. These people minds are very warped, their minds are trapped in the past, their minds doesn't develop mentally or physically. They are basically a person that has developed physically, but they doesn't want to grow up, they just want to stay as a child; their hormones isn't changing in their brains that causing them to have desires for fully develop person . There are some people that are in their eighties that are sort of suffers from pedophilia, that they only have the desires for young men or women that are in the ages around twenties or thirties, but that is acceptable in our times. But these people minds stop developing or they has psych themselves into believing that they are still young, but when they has found out the truth, they already has deeply embedded into their minds of what type of a person they want to have desires for, sort of they has painted a picture in their minds and will not let it go.
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Did you Conservacrazies not read the guys original piece in Salon the guy wrote? In it, he talked of "virtuous pedophiles" who would not dream of molesting a child in any way nor do they have a collection of kiddy porn. Guys like this should be able to seek out treatment for their sickness and I am in agreement. Now don't get me wrong - I am in no way shape or form condoning this sickness. If a pedo is caught molesting children or the like in any way, I'm all in agreement in throwing the book at them. But there are some who, like the author, realize their sickness, have never acted upon and seek help for it. I'm all for providing mental health services for these guys so they don't eventually act out upon their twisted fantasies.
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hostileuniverse said: First baby killing, then forcing bakeries and religious people to violate their beliefs, and now this, is there any depth these sick fuckers won't go???
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/im_a_pedophile_youre_the_monsters_my_week_inside_the_vile_right_wing_hate_machine/
And then of course, they blame the "right wing" for being mean...
Pedophilia is a mental disorder caused by numerous reasons. You cannot treat them as an common criminal, but they cannot be in the public around children. These people minds are very warped, their minds are trapped in the past, their minds doesn't develop mentally or physically. They are basically a person that has developed physically, but they doesn't want to grow up, they just want to stay as a child; their hormones isn't changing in their brains that causing them to have desires for fully develop person . There are some people that are in their eighties that are sort of suffers from pedophilia, that they only have the desires for young men or women that are in the ages around twenties or thirties, but that is acceptable in our times. But these people minds stop developing or they has psych themselves into believing that they are still young, but when they has found out the truth, they already has deeply embedded into their minds of what type of a person they want to have desires for, sort of they has painted a picture in their minds and will not let it go.
You sound just like the people who try to "cure" homosexuality...
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Why not just lower the age of consent? Problem solved, no more "pedophiles". 
Do you realize that just 200 years ago girls as young as 8 were getting married and having children with much older men? It was the norm, there was nothing "perverted" or "sinful" about it. Just two homosapians copulating. Also, did you know that if it wasn't for "pedophilia" the human race would have gone extinct? 200 thousand years ago cavemen didn't have time nor the care for their chosen sexual partners to reach some ambiguous age of self righteous psuedo maturity. If it wasn't for pedophilia you wouldn't exist, somewhere along your bloodline a girl well under the age of 18 gave birth to your forefather.
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SpiritWorld said: Why not just lower the age of consent? Problem solved, no more "pedophiles". 
Do you realize that just 200 years ago girls as young as 8 were getting married and having children with much older men? It was the norm, there was nothing "perverted" or "sinful" about it. Just two homosapians copulating. Also, did you know that if it wasn't for "pedophilia" the human race would have gone extinct? 200 thousand years ago cavemen didn't have time nor the care for their chosen sexual partners to reach some ambiguous age of self righteous psuedo maturity. If it wasn't for pedophilia you wouldn't exist, somewhere along your bloodline a girl well under the age of 18 gave birth to your forefather.
Welcome to planet Earth may I take your belief systems? You won't be needing them.
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SpiritWorld said: Do you realize that just 200 years ago girls as young as 8 were getting married and having children with much older men? It was the norm, there was nothing "perverted" or "sinful" about it. Just two homosapians copulating.
We also used to leave twins and handicapped infants to die of exposure. I don't take your point
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http://louderwithcrowder.com/bernie-sanders-campaign-allows-a-child-sex-advocate-to-publish-on-their-website/
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Yeah a grown man using the word totes makes for an excellent article.
Yet here I am again to dispel your bullshit. The book this woman wrote is about the consequences of not teaching your children about sex, not about promoting molestation.
She's arguing for education, which, surprise surprise, the right wing is once again demonizing.

Do you even read the shit you post here? Either of you? And I'm not asking this as a troll or an ad hominem so you can dispense with the crybabying before you begin it. I'm asking because, seemingly every day, one of you will post a link, then make a claim that the link directly contradicts.
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The Ecstatic said: Yeah a grown man using the word totes makes for an excellent article.
Yet here I am again to dispel your bullshit. The book this woman wrote is about the consequences of not teaching your children about sex, not about promoting molestation.
She's arguing for education, which, surprise surprise, the right wing is once again demonizing.

Do you even read the shit you post here? Either of you? And I'm not asking this as a troll or an ad hominem so you can dispense with the crybabying before you begin it. I'm asking because, seemingly every day, one of you will post a link, then make a claim that the link directly contradicts.
You can't fix stupid.
Sex is a wonderful, crucial part of growing up, and children and teens can enjoy the pleasures of the body and be safe, too. In this important and controversial book, Judith Levine makes this argument and goes further, asserting that America's attempts to protect children from sex are worse than ineffectual Harmful To Minors: The Perils Of Protecting Children From Sex http://www.amazon.com/Harmful-To-Minors-Protecting-Children/dp/0816640068
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Obviously, you did not read the link...
But that's okay, this topic is to inform those who actually oppose this stuff, which obviously you do not...
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How's that obvious?
Using more words you don't know the definitions to?
And I did read the link, one of us has to.
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Did either of you read that book? Or are you basing your opinion of it from some random dude on the internet who also didn't read it?
Even if she is promoting children to have sex, what in the world does that have to do with pedophilia? Nothing.
Another stupid fucking premise from a stupid fucking source posted by a stupid fucking person.
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The Ecstatic said: Did either of you read that book? Or are you basing your opinion of it from some random dude on the internet who also didn't read it?
Even if she is promoting children to have sex, what in the world does that have to do with pedophilia? Nothing.
Another stupid fucking premise from a stupid fucking source posted by a stupid fucking person.
an adult advocating children have sex? and I'm the stupid one? you're a sick fucker static...
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Again.
What does children having sex with one another have to do with pedophilia?
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Judging just by the title I assume the book is about the failures of abstinence only sex education.
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How does an article related to pedophilia equate to "liberals trying to 'normalize' it"? 
That's a 'hasty generalization' if I've ever seen one.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: How does an article related to pedophilia equate to "liberals trying to 'normalize' it"? 
That's a 'hasty generalization' if I've ever seen one.
when liberal publications are the ones doing it, yeah, that IS trying to normalize it...
first they try to get you to "understand" then itll be "acceptance" and then it'll be "leniency" in the law for these sick fucks, you may not even grasp how progressivism works, but I do, I know EXACTLY what they are doing, and its fuckin sick...
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You like to make things up so you can attack them. Virtually every other post I've made with you is correcting a misconception about what I 'think'. I can assure you that normalization of pedophilia is not something liberals are trying to do, and for you to just make that up shows an incredible ignorance.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: You like to make things up so you can attack them. Virtually every other post I've made with you is correcting a misconception about what I 'think'. I can assure you that normalization of pedophilia is not something liberals are trying to do, and for you to just make that up shows an incredible ignorance.
you've not corrected me on anything YOU think, I'm talking about the far leftist liberal progressives, if thats you, then so be it...
the fact is its liberals pushing this shit, and you know it... how you and the rest can defend it is basically... disgusting...
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The only think liberals are defending that you seem to hate is free speech.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: The only think liberals are defending that you seem to hate is free speech.
if defending pedophilia based on "free speech" is where you stand, then so be it...
would you support those who defend the KKK, nazis, and every other racist out there on "free speech"? neither would I...
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: would you support those who defend the KKK, nazis, and every other racist out there on "free speech"? neither would I...
What do you mean by "support"? Of course I don't support what they stand for, but they have a Constitutional right to free speech. Would you disagree?
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What do you mean by "support"? Of course I don't support what they stand for, but they have a Constitutional right to free speech. Would you disagree?
well of course they have the "right" to free speech, but you gotta look at whose endorsing it...
I see libs endorsing and defending this "free speech", if you don't agree with it, why the hell support and endorse it???
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Of course I don't support what they stand for, but they have a Constitutional right to free speech. Would you disagree?
well of course they have the "right" to free speech, but you gotta look at whose endorsing it...
I see libs endorsing and defending this "free speech", if you don't agree with it, why the hell support and endorse it???
You don't get the concept of free speech, do you? It's not about your right you say you love god and country. Everyone has that right in every country of the world. It's about the right to say controversial things.
I support the right to free speech, whether I agree with the topic or not.
Defending free speech is NOT the same as supporting what's being said, but you obviously don't get that.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Looks like Salon has been practicing their free speech on this topic for years. Controversial is an understatement. I think they lean a bit to the left.
Meet pedophiles who mean well
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/01/meet_pedophiles_who_mean_well/
Redefining pedophilia with pedophiles’ help
http://www.salon.com/2011/08/17/pedophilia/
Married to a pedophile
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/30/married_to_a_pedophile/
Our approach to pedophilia isn’t working
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/15/our_approach_to_pedophilia_isn%C2%B4t_working/
Is my brother a pedophile?
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/12/is_my_brother_a_pedophile/
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Astral Pain said: Looks like Salon has been practicing their free speech on this topic for years. Controversial is an understatement. I think they lean a bit to the left.
Meet pedophiles who mean well
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/01/meet_pedophiles_who_mean_well/
Redefining pedophilia with pedophiles’ help
http://www.salon.com/2011/08/17/pedophilia/
Married to a pedophile
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/30/married_to_a_pedophile/
Our approach to pedophilia isn’t working
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/15/our_approach_to_pedophilia_isn%C2%B4t_working/
Is my brother a pedophile?
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/12/is_my_brother_a_pedophile/
I've seen some pretty right wing articles from Salon. Salon is shit anyway. It's just for ratings from shock value. Cickbait.
Liberals aren't pro-pedophile Jesus Christ. This thread is a bit over the top. I'm a Liberal and I certainly don't support pedophilia.
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Salon is full on left and zero right and yes it is shit. Show me righty Salon article please.
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Astral Pain said: Salon is full on left and zero right and yes it is shit. Show me righty Salon article please.
I may have been wrong. It appears Salon is a left wing shit journalism machine. So what?
I generally don't read anything from Salon, so I guess I misspoke.
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Astral Pain said: Looks like Salon has been practicing their free speech on this topic for years. Controversial is an understatement. I think they lean a bit to the left.
Meet pedophiles who mean well
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/01/meet_pedophiles_who_mean_well/
Redefining pedophilia with pedophiles’ help
http://www.salon.com/2011/08/17/pedophilia/
Married to a pedophile
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/30/married_to_a_pedophile/
Our approach to pedophilia isn’t working
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/15/our_approach_to_pedophilia_isn%C2%B4t_working/
Is my brother a pedophile?
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/12/is_my_brother_a_pedophile/
Which one of those articles says pedophilia is ok??? The OP was being dishonest.
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it's probably useful to understand how pedophiles think so we can protect children from them. we do the same thing with mass murderers whenever possible. i don't have a problem with that as much as the author's dishonesty. the author does seem to be trying to normalize pedophilia for the way he uses the term "sexual orientation". i wouldn't necessarily say it's salon's agenda, or the liberal agenda, whatever that is, but it is an equivocation on the author's part. it may be fair to loosely label pedophilia a sexual orientation in the sense that the term speaks to an individual's sexual preferences and that it is likely something that cannot be controlled up to a certain point - pedophilic inclinations and thoughts are distinct from pedophilic behavior. but the author seems to use "sexual orientation" in a way that is misleading. pedophilia is a preference that shapes another preference, namely sexual orientation in the strict sense of the term. there is no such thing as an asexual pedophile, but there are asexual heterosexuals or homosexuals. there may be pedophiles that choose to not act on their behavior, but the term "pedophile" is implicitly sexual, so the outrage at the author in this case seems justifiable.
but still, it may be helpful to know what makes pedophiles tick so we can prevent them from molesting children. and that may outweigh the author's fallacy if the papers lead to a better understanding of the psychology of pedophilia, which is why it seems to be an easy leap (for me at least) to give salon the benefit of the doubt. i highly doubt they are trying to advocate for pedophiles in the same way that they have advocated for same sex couples. and even though it seems obvious that we should do everything we can to stop as well as catch pedophiles who act on their behavior, we would also do well to pity them. i feel sorry anyone who ends up this way. and anyone who denies pedophilic impulses should be praised because it's just a terrible situation all around.
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Which one of those articles says pedophilia is ok??? The OP was being dishonest.
Which one says it's horrible? I'm not going to bother reading any of them, but from the titles alone, they seem to be be labeling it as ok. Or normalizing it as in the OP.
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i highly doubt salon endorses pedophilia.
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Well, they sure aren't treating it as the horrific act it is, that's for sure. Hence the normalizing claim in the OP
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per my post above, the author may be attempting to normalize pedophilia, but salon seems to just be trying to gain an understanding of it.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: millzy]
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The author and news outlet are one and the same, and the fact you are defending either, at any level, shows that you support this disgusting act. Stop digging
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Astral Pain] 1
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Did you even read what he wrote? He sure as hell wasn't defending pedophilia; nor is Salon.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Astral Pain]
#22403868 - 10/19/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Astral Pain said: The author and news outlet are one and the same, and the fact you are defending either, at any level, shows that you support this disgusting act. Stop digging
for starters, journals like salon publish a lot of authors with a lot of differing, often conflicting views. so do respectable news outlets. for example, the new york times features a lot of work by michael gerson, who was a speech writer for bush II. does that mean the times agrees with everything gerson says? hardly. it doesn't mean they agree with the authors who respond to his editorials either. the point of the news is for them to fairly present you all the angles so you can decide for yourself.
moreover, you should try reading other people's posts so you can effectively contribute to the conversation. in no way do i condone pedophilia.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Be sure to let us know, after you read the articles, what their stance is on pedophilia. Sure doesn't look like they're out to demonize the act from reading the titles, and that's as much as I'll read from salon. The last thing I want to do is hang out in a pedophile thread and I only posted for the sake of our children. Seacrest out...
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Astral Pain] 2
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you really should learn how to read more carefully and discuss issues respectfully.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: millzy]
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millzy said: you really should learn how to read more carefully and discuss issues respectfully.
Ad hominem
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ad hominem is attacking an opponent instead of refuting their position. i've refuted all of your claims. if anyone is committing ad hominem it's you by assuming i endorse pedophilia. so again, please learn to read carefully and please learn to discuss issues respectfully. it's a skill that, once mastered, will invariably lead you to knowledge and understanding of the world.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: millzy]
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ad hominem is attacking an opponent instead of refuting their position.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Astral Pain]
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what position of yours am i avoiding to refute?
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Astral Pain] 1
#22404088 - 10/19/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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millzy said: you really should learn how to read more carefully and discuss issues respectfully.
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Not even close. Pointing out the flaw in your debate style is constructive criticism.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Astral Pain]
#22404720 - 10/19/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Astral Pain said: Well, they sure aren't treating it as the horrific act it is, that's for sure. Hence the normalizing claim in the OP
I didn't read the articles, just the headlines... but I have to agree with you. Pedophilia really is just disgusting, and horribly damaging to children's lives. I don't think anyone should get comfortable with the idea in any way, shape, or form.
I will say that I don't think Salon's articles are representative of 'liberals' in general. There are different kinds of Liberals though. Some grab onto every stupid fucking issue they can conjure up and run with it. They 'manufacture outrage' about stupid shit, like the spelling of women. The feminists drive me fucking whack! I'm not talking about egalitarian women either.
There are also reasonable people, like the libs you find around here. None of us latch on to ridiculous issues, or manufacture outrage. That's a fact. We don't see any grey areas with pedophilia either.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22404761 - 10/19/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Astral Pain said: Well, they sure aren't treating it as the horrific act it is, that's for sure. Hence the normalizing claim in the OP
I didn't read the articles, just the headlines... but I have to agree with you. Pedophilia really is just disgusting, and horribly damaging to children's lives. I don't think anyone should get comfortable with the idea in any way, shape, or form.
I will say that I don't think Salon's articles are representative of 'liberals' in general. There are different kinds of Liberals though. Some grab onto every stupid fucking issue they can conjure up and run with it. They 'manufacture outrage' about stupid shit, like the spelling of women. The feminists drive me fucking whack! I'm not talking about egalitarian women either.
There are also reasonable people, like the libs you find around here. None of us latch on to ridiculous issues, or manufacture outrage. That's a fact. We don't see any grey areas with pedophilia either.
Well, isn't THAT comforting, lol, thanks for your stand against these monsters, I'm glad there is at least SOMETHING we can agree on
But I do want to add, if liberals don't stand up to this shit, it will become more acceptable, gay marriage and single payer USED to be fringe issues as well...
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Astral Pain said: Well, they sure aren't treating it as the horrific act it is, that's for sure. Hence the normalizing claim in the OP
I didn't read the articles, just the headlines... but I have to agree with you. Pedophilia really is just disgusting, and horribly damaging to children's lives. I don't think anyone should get comfortable with the idea in any way, shape, or form.
I will say that I don't think Salon's articles are representative of 'liberals' in general. There are different kinds of Liberals though. Some grab onto every stupid fucking issue they can conjure up and run with it. They 'manufacture outrage' about stupid shit, like the spelling of women. The feminists drive me fucking whack! I'm not talking about egalitarian women either.
There are also reasonable people, like the libs you find around here. None of us latch on to ridiculous issues, or manufacture outrage. That's a fact. We don't see any grey areas with pedophilia either.
Well, isn't THAT comforting, lol, thanks for your stand against these monsters, I'm glad there is at least SOMETHING we can agree on
But I do want to add, if liberals don't stand up to this shit, it will become more acceptable, gay marriage and single payer USED to be fringe issues as well...
I agree, that's why I said I don't think anyone should get comfortable with the idea in any way, shape, or form, because that's the first step. However, gay marriage and single payer are good issues, and it's great that we've made progress in those areas.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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I agree, that's why I said I don't think anyone should get comfortable with the idea in any way, shape, or form, because that's the first step. However, gay marriage and single payer are good issues, and it's great that we've made progress in those areas.
I know you do, but that's why I used them as examples, what was unthinkable 20 years ago, is now accepted, certainly don't want that to happen with this
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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I agree, that's why I said I don't think anyone should get comfortable with the idea in any way, shape, or form, because that's the first step. However, gay marriage and single payer are good issues, and it's great that we've made progress in those areas.
I know you do, but that's why I used them as examples, what was unthinkable 20 years ago, is now accepted, certainly don't want that to happen with this
I've seen they're even talking about making kiddie 'rape-me' AI robots for pedophiles... I coined the term 'rape-me robot', btw. You know... I really should get that trademarked.. I bet it's going to be a thing someday.
I don't know where I stand on that one though. Depends how legitimate the artificial intelligence really is. I think we will run into similar ethical problems with AI that you have with humans. Ex-machina was an example of that.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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I agree, that's why I said I don't think anyone should get comfortable with the idea in any way, shape, or form, because that's the first step. However, gay marriage and single payer are good issues, and it's great that we've made progress in those areas.
I know you do, but that's why I used them as examples, what was unthinkable 20 years ago, is now accepted, certainly don't want that to happen with this
I've seen they're even talking about making kiddie 'rape-me' AI robots for pedophiles... I coined the term 'rape-me robot', btw. You know... I really should get that trademarked.. I bet it's going to be a thing someday.
I don't know where I stand on that one though. Depends how legitimate the artificial intelligence really is. I think we will run into similar ethical problems with AI that you have with humans. Ex-machina was an example of that.
Well it's the same with computer generated child porn, yes, it's a thing, not actual children so is that okay? Personally, I just think we need to get medeval on thier ass, execute them, who fucking cares, right?
On the other hand, I can't wait for my robot girlfriend, you know, for when the wife is old, lol, and then it's not really cheating! Lol
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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I agree, that's why I said I don't think anyone should get comfortable with the idea in any way, shape, or form, because that's the first step. However, gay marriage and single payer are good issues, and it's great that we've made progress in those areas.
I know you do, but that's why I used them as examples, what was unthinkable 20 years ago, is now accepted, certainly don't want that to happen with this
I've seen they're even talking about making kiddie 'rape-me' AI robots for pedophiles... I coined the term 'rape-me robot', btw. You know... I really should get that trademarked.. I bet it's going to be a thing someday.
I don't know where I stand on that one though. Depends how legitimate the artificial intelligence really is. I think we will run into similar ethical problems with AI that you have with humans. Ex-machina was an example of that.
Well it's the same with computer generated child porn, yes, it's a thing, not actual children so is that okay? Personally, I just think we need to get medeval on thier ass, execute them, who fucking cares, right?
On the other hand, I can't wait for my robot girlfriend, you know, for when the wife is old, lol, and then it's not really cheating! Lol
Lmao!!! Yeah, mine's going to be a gymnist XD
Is being a robot fucker a Liberal cause you can..... get behind? lmao!
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you know, i don't really think there's any partisan debate on how terrible child molestation is.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: millzy]
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millzy said: you know, i don't really think there's any partisan debate on how terrible child molestation is.
Yeah there is, it's libs trying to normalize it, not conservatives, just sayin...
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Lmao!!! Yeah, mine's going to be a gymnist XD
Is being a robot fucker a Liberal cause you can..... get behind? lmao!
Ya know, I love liberals, I really do, my favorite band, NIN, trents liberal as fuck, but I still follow them and go to a few shows every tour, but do I want them in charge of political shit? fuck no!
That's the thing, libs should stick to what they do best, art and shit, lol
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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no they aren't. the author of the paper in that journal seems to be trying to normalize it, but not the journal itself. child sodomy is no more a partisan issue than murder is.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: millzy]
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millzy said: no they aren't. the author of the paper in that journal seems to be trying to normalize it, but not the journal itself. child sodomy is no more a partisan issue than murder is.
It took a Liberal pope to finally start straightening out the catholic church on this issue... Just sayin.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: millzy]
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millzy said: you know, i don't really think there's any partisan debate on how terrible child molestation is.
Unless you want to argue that ranking members of conservative institutions get caught either doing it, or protecting those that do.
And you certainly could. But I do agree, it's non partisan.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: millzy]
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millzy said: no they aren't. the author of the paper in that journal seems to be trying to normalize it, but not the journal itself. child sodomy is no more a partisan issue than murder is.
If the article is trying to normalize it and the journal publishes that, they are part of the effort to normalize.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Stonehenge]
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If the article is trying to normalize it and the journal publishes that, they are part of the effort to normalize.
I don't think he intention of the articles was to 'normalize' pedophilia. Maybe to 'humanize' pedophiles. I don't think it's a worthy cause, and they should certainly be chastised for these articles, but I don't think this can be added to any sort of progressive agenda.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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I don't think this can be added to any sort of progressive agenda.
Officially? No. But give them time, there was a time when the vast majority of Americans rejected socialism too, now look what you fuckers have done
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Officially? No. But give them time, there was a time when the vast majority of Americans rejected socialism too, now look what you fuckers have done
you can't be serious.
and your analogy is inaccurate: we are now less socialistic than we were, unless you want to count corporate welfare i.e. subsidies, which most right wingers are uncomfortable with accepting.
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Officially? No. But give them time, there was a time when the vast majority of Americans rejected socialism too, now look what you fuckers have done
There was a major propaganda campaign against Socialism, because it is a damaging ideology to the status quo. We almost became a Socialist nation after the Great Depression, but instead they gave us the 'New Deal'. They did that to stave off a Socialist takeover after the Capitalists caused a Great Depression. It's not surprising that Socialism has crept it's way back into mainstream politics yet again. You should be praying for Bernie to become president, because he's a new deal kind of guy, not a reall Socialist.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Officially? No. But give them time, there was a time when the vast majority of Americans rejected socialism too, now look what you fuckers have done
There was a major propaganda campaign against Socialism, because it is a damaging ideology to the status quo. We almost became a Socialist nation after the Great Depression, but instead they gave us the 'New Deal'. They did that to stave off a Socialist takeover after the Capitalists caused a Great Depression. It's not surprising that Socialism has crept it's way back into mainstream politics yet again. You should be praying for Bernie to become president, because he's a new deal kind of guy, not a reall Socialist.
Exactly.
Why do people think we kept fighting communism? To protect freedom? LOL. It was because the super rich dont get to run the rest of us ifntheres communism. TRUE communism. Even socialism is a monumental threat to the status quo.
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Officially? No. But give them time, there was a time when the vast majority of Americans rejected socialism too, now look what you fuckers have done
There was a major propaganda campaign against Socialism, because it is a damaging ideology to the status quo. We almost became a Socialist nation after the Great Depression, but instead they gave us the 'New Deal'. They did that to stave off a Socialist takeover after the Capitalists caused a Great Depression. It's not surprising that Socialism has crept it's way back into mainstream politics yet again. You should be praying for Bernie to become president, because he's a new deal kind of guy, not a reall Socialist.
Exactly.
Why do people think we kept fighting communism? To protect freedom? LOL. It was because the super rich dont get to run the rest of us ifntheres communism. TRUE communism. Even socialism is a monumental threat to the status quo.
Right... America used a false flag operation (confirmed) to get into Vietnam in the first place, because they were waging ideological warfare. A war on communism.
There was a huge campaign against Marxism. The US even had a black list of 'Marxists' that were persecuted by the government. The status quo was terrified of losing power to the people it dominated, and they still are. The 'Red Scare' was a propaganda campaign.
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Yeah, America would be much better off if only we had embraced Marxism and communism 100 years ago...
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do you even remotely pay attention to what's being said?
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22414461 - 10/21/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I knew you would be thumbs up to that. Just think, we could have been just like the soviet union and Russia. Or just like cuba. Oh the possibilities!
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marxism is a theory that posits that human history is driven by economics. communism is an ideology that is derived from marx's ideas. have you guys entertained the possibility that you may not know what you're talking about?
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: millzy]
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millzy said: marxism is a theory that posits that human history is driven by economics. communism is an ideology that is derived from marx's ideas. have you guys entertained the possibility that you may not know what you're talking about?
I've already wasted more time than I care to admit attempting to disabuse them of their misconceptions. Don't waste yours ;-)
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: millzy]
#22414782 - 10/21/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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millzy said: marxism is a theory that posits that human history is driven by economics. communism is an ideology that is derived from marx's ideas. have you guys entertained the possibility that you may not know what you're talking about?
If you think communism is so great, please, feel free to move to Venezuela or China or Cuba,
Wait, what the hell was the point of your comment?
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: millzy]
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Amazing to me that the people who claim to value freedom above all else don't see a problem with the government rounding people up based on what kind of economy they believe would work best.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22414883 - 10/21/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Remember that when Bernie Sanders starts jailing bankers and businessmen
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: Amazing to me that the people who claim to value freedom above all else don't see a problem with the government rounding people up based on what kind of economy they believe would work best.
Right wingers don't believe in freedom! lol Haven't you ever heard of the war on drugs that has been locking away more people than any country in world history for decades?
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22414893 - 10/21/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right wingers don't believe in freedom! lol Haven't you ever heard of the war on drugs that has been locking away more people than any country in world history for decades?
Yeah was Clinton a right winger with his mandatory minimums?
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Right wingers don't believe in freedom! lol Haven't you ever heard of the war on drugs that has been locking away more people than any country in world history for decades?
Yeah was Clinton a right winger with his mandatory minimums?
I'm talking about your idol, Ronald Reagan.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22414908 - 10/21/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right wingers don't believe in freedom! lol Haven't you ever heard of the war on drugs that has been locking away more people than any country in world history for decades?
Yeah was Clinton a right winger with his mandatory minimums?
I'm talking about your idol, Ronald Reagan.
Yup, just forget about liberals culpability,
Believe it or not, this is one issue we agree on, however, it's not left versus right, its follow the constitution or not...
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22414926 - 10/21/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah was Clinton a right winger with his mandatory minimums?
I'm talking about your idol, Ronald Reagan.
Yup, just forget about liberals culpability,
Believe it or not, this is one issue we agree on, however, it's not left versus right, its follow the constitution or not...
Right wingers are also against the freedom of homosexuals to get married. That, and the freedom of a president to get a hummer from an intern.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22414932 - 10/21/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Remember that when Bernie Sanders starts jailing bankers and businessmen
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22414966 - 10/21/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right wingers are also against the freedom of homosexuals to get married. That, and the freedom of a president to get a hummer from an intern.
You're ignorance is profound, or your lies, I for one don't give two shit about homos being married, it's a religious act anyway, govt should have no say in it one way or the other
As for the sexual predator in chief, he wasn't impeached for doing it, he was impeached for lying about it, big difference, if I lied to a grand jury, I'd be in prison, that fucker got off light
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22415072 - 10/21/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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War on drugs was Nixon. Clinton has stated mandatory minimums was a mistake. Obama has been releasing some of those affected.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22415105 - 10/21/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Just think, we could have been just like the soviet union and Russia. Or just like cuba. Oh the possibilities!
Russia wasn't nearly as bad off as American propaganda led us to believe. And roughly 50% of the Russian workforce was devoted to defense. Imagine how much better things could have been if America hadn't been a constant threat.
Similarly, Cuba would be much better off today if the US didn't impose an embargo on them. But again, we mustn't give communism a chance anywhere in the world, because if it succeeds, our billionaires are doomed...
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22415129 - 10/21/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Reagan was so terrified of communism his administration turned a blind eye to coke smuggling that fueled the crack epidemic.
Just say no... I mean, just say no if you're white. If you're black buy some crack and help us fight the commies!!
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22415158 - 10/21/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Russia wasn't nearly as bad off as American propaganda led us to believe. And roughly 50% of the Russian workforce was devoted to defense. Imagine how much better things could have been if America hadn't been a constant threat.
Similarly, Cuba would be much better off today if the US didn't impose an embargo on them. But again, we mustn't give communism a chance anywhere in the world, because if it succeeds, our billionaires are doomed...
That's such a bullshit excuse, the only country that had the embargo was the US, every other country was free to trade with them,
And I very much like crack, and I'm white, can't help it if others are just stupid with their addictions
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: paperbackwriter]
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>War on drugs was Nixon.
It goes way back farther than that. It goes back to the early 20th century.
>Clinton has stated mandatory minimums was a mistake.
Clinton is a lying asshole and what he said while out of office means nothing. He also said we should have gone easier on pot but while he was in he was totally against it. I think Charles manson said killing all those people was a mistake too. Lets turn him loose... on obumble.
>Obama has been releasing some of those affected.
Pffft, a tiny handful out of hundreds of thousands. Just enough for a photo op.
Fal >Russia wasn't nearly as bad off as American propaganda led us to believe.
They were and are very bad off.
>Cuba would be much better off today if the US didn't impose an embargo on them.
So what? Anyway, it was you guys hero jfk who did the embargo
>But again, we mustn't give communism a chance anywhere in the world, because if it succeeds, our billionaires are doomed...
How and why are they doomed? There are billionaires in Russia, even in n korea. You imply that communism would "succeed" if only given a chance. Russia wasn't enough of a chance? How about china? Another shit hole unless you are rich. Its been tried and tried, it goes against the grain of human nature and ends up just as corrupt as our system.
Speaking of which, lets do away with legal bribery and watch it get better fast.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22415354 - 10/21/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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They were and are very bad off.
Yes, they are bad off. And have been capitalist since 1991.
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How and why are they doomed?
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There are today now that it's a capitalist country.
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I explained that 50% of their workforce was devoted to defense. They could have been much better off.
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China is more capitalist than communist.
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Then why do we constantly fight it rather than allowing it to fail? And how many capitalist countries have failed?
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I'm in favor of capitalism over communism. The difference seems to be that I'm not scared of other countries if they choose to be communist.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I'm in favor of capitalism over communism. The difference seems to be that I'm not scared of other countries if they choose to be communist
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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I'm in favor of Democratic Socialism and hardcore wealth redistribution.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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He didn't miss it...
He just says inflammatory nonsense to get a rise out of people... It's called trolling. In the other thread he said Bernie wants to tell him where to work, and tell his employer what he can and can't pay him.
These 3 Libertarian stooges have actually run off all the good conservatives who actually have some modicum of critical thinking and debate capability. I think the shame is unbearable
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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I noticed that too. If I were one of the smarter conservatives here, I'd distance myself as well.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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>If it succeeds, people will want to convert to it, and communism doesn't produce billionaires.
How does that mean our billionaires are doomed, as you stated?
>>Stonehenge said: You imply that communism would "succeed" if only given a chance. Russia wasn't enough of a chance?
>I explained that 50% of their workforce was devoted to defense. They could have been much better off.
You said it but never proved it or presented any evidence. What difference does it make what industry they are in? Are you seriously trying to tell us communism works? Why then has it never worked and why did those countries always turn to a limited form of capitalism, by your own statements, if communism is better?
Its like saying Mormonism is better than Hinduism but if all who try Mormonism switch over to some other system like Hinduism, then the facts show it is not better. All countries that tried communism are now dictatorships with limited capitalism. Why do you suppose that is?
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Democratic State Senator Dan Sutton of Flandreau, South Dakota accused of fondling a male page. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012401966.html
Democrat Carl Stanley McGee, 38, prominent gay activist, assistant secretary for policy and planning and top aid to democrat governor Deval Patrick of Massachuttsettes, accused of sexually assaulting a 15 year old boy in a steam room at a Florida resort. http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1072114
Democrat Bernard Vincent Ward, former chief legislative aide to Senator Barbara Boxer, self proclaimed "Lion of the Left" on bay area radio, admitted transgressions too numerous to mention. http://prosites-prs.homestead.com/ward_new.pdf
Democrat Chairman Rodney, Davidson County Democratic Party, Mullins resigned Thursday morning amid child pornography allegations, according to press secretary Jean Carter Wilson of the Davidson County Democratic Party. http://nashvillefiles.com/blog/archives/000808.html
Democrat Boston city councilor David Scondras is facing charges for attempting to lure a teenage boy over the Internet. Investigators said Scondras had several sexually explicit email exchanges with someone he thought was a 15-year-old boy. http://wbztv.com/topstories/Former.Boston.City.2.582093.html
Democrat Charles Rust-Tierney, 51, is a former president of the Virginia chapter of the ACLU from 2002 to 2005. On February 23, 2007, Rust-Tierney was arrested and charged with possession of child pornography. He pleaded guilty to one count of receipt of child pornography on June 1, 2007.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Rust-Tierney
Democrat Andrew Douglas Reed, 53, a North Carolina Democrat activist plead guilty to a page-long list of counts of 2nd-degree sexual exploitation of a minor. Court records in the Asheville, N.C., case said he admitted that he would "record, develop and duplicate material containing a visual representation of a minor engaging in sexual activity." http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53070 Scott W. Ballo, a long-time spokesman for various Democratic political campaigns and a former communications director for the Oregon Economic and Community Development Department, was arraigned today in Marion County Circuit Court on two charges of encouraging child sex abuse (both misdemeanors) and one charge of official misconduct (also a misdemeanor), according to the court clerk's office. The charges relate to pornography allegedly found on Ballo's work computer when he was employed by the economic and community development department, according to a person familiar with the case. http://www.wweek.com/wwire/?p=9905
Democrat Mel Reynolds, House of Representatives (D-Il) convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography resulting from a sexual relationship with a 16-year-old campaign volunteer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Reynolds
Democrat Gary Studds Studds was a central figure in the 1983 Congressional page sex scandal, when he and Representative Dan Crane were censured by the House of Representatives for separate sexual relationships with minors — in Studds' case, a 1973 sexual relationship with a 17-year-old male congressional page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds
Democrat Bryan Singer, film director, raped a teenage boy could impact fundraising for Democrats, http://spectator.org/blog/58805/hollywood-pedophile-allegations-involve-gay-democrat-donor
Democrat Sen. Daniel Inouye. The 82-year-old Hawaii Democrat was accused in the 1990s by numerous women of sexual harassment.
Democrat, Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa.
Democrat Rep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank’s residence in the 1980s. Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.
Democrat, Former Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election—before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.
Democrat, Former Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later.
Democrat, Former Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress.
Democrat, Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old.
Democrat, Sen. Teddy Kennedy. The liberal Massachusetts senator testified in defense of nephew accused of rape, invoking his family history to win over the jury in 1991.
Democrat REP. JOHN YOUNG (D-Tex.): On June 11, 1976, Colleen Gardner, a former staff secretary to Young, told the New York Times that Young increased her salary after she gave in to his sexual advances. In November, Young, who had run unopposed in the safe Democratic district five consecutive times, was reelected with just 61 percent of the vote. The scandal wouldn't go away, and in 1978 Young was defeated in a Democratic primary runoff.
Democrat REP. ALLAN HOWE (D-Utah): On June 13, 1976, Howe was arrested in Salt Lake City on charges of soliciting two policewomen posing as prostitutes. Howe insisted he was set up and refused to resign. But the Democratic Party distanced itself from his candidacy and he was trounced by his Republican opponent in the November election.
Democrat REP. FRED RICHMOND (D-N.Y.): In April 1978, Richmond was arrested in Washington for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Richmond apologized for his actions, conceding he "made bad judgments involving my private life." In spite of a Democratic primary opponent's attempts to cash in on the headlines, Richmond easily won renomination and reelection. But his career came to an end four years later when, after pleading guilty to possession of marijuana and tax evasion - and amid allegations that he had his staff procure cocaine for him -- he resigned his seat.
Democrat REP. JOHN HINSON (D-Miss.): On Aug. 8, 1980, during his first reelection bid, Hinson stunned everyone by announcing that in 1976 he had been accused of committing an obscene act at a gay haunt in Virginia. Hinson, married and a strong conservative, added that in 1977 he had survived a fire in a gay D.C. movie theater. He was making the disclosure, he said, because he needed to clear his conscience. But he denied he was a homosexual and refused GOP demands that he resign. Hinson won reelection in a three-way race, with 39 percent of the vote. But three months later, he was arrested on charges of attempted oral sodomy in the restroom of a House office building. He resigned his seat on April 13, 1981.
Democrat REP. ROBERT BAUMAN (D-Md.): On Oct. 3, 1980, Bauman, a leading "pro-family" conservative, pleaded innocent to a charge that he committed oral sodomy on a teenage boy in Washington. Married and the father of four, Bauman conceded that he had been an alcoholic but had been seeking treatment. The news came as a shock to voters of the rural, conservative district, and he lost to a Democrat in November.
Democrat REP. DAN CRANE (R-Ill.) and REP. GERRY STUDDS (D-Mass.): The House ethics committee on July 14, 1983, announced that Crane and Studds had sexual relationships with teenage congressional pages -- Crane with a 17-year-old female in 1980, Studds with a 17-year-old male in 1973. Both admitted the charges that same day, and Studds acknowledged he was gay. The committee voted to reprimand the two, but a back-bench Georgia Republican named Newt Gingrich argued that they should be expelled. The full House voted on July 20 instead to censure the two, the first time that ever happened for sexual misconduct. Crane, married and the father of six, was tearful in his apology to the House, while Studds refused to apologize. Crane's conservative district voted him out in 1984, while the voters in Studds's more liberal district were more forgiving. Studds won reelection in 1984 with 56 percent of the vote, and continued to win until he retired in 1996.
Democrat REP. ERNIE KONNYU (D-Calif.): In August 1987, two former Konnyu aides complained to the San Jose Mercury News that the freshman Republican had sexually harassed them. GOP leaders were unhappy with Konnyu's temperament to begin with, so it took little effort to find candidates who would take him on in the primary. Stanford professor Tom Campbell ousted Konnyu the following June.
Democrat SEN. BROCK ADAMS (D-Wash.): On Sept. 27, 1988, Seattle newspapers reported that Kari Tupper, the daughter of Adams's longtime friends, filed a complaint against the Washington Democrat in July of 1987, charging sexual assault. She claimed she went to Adams's house in March 1987 to get him to end a pattern of harassment, but that he drugged her and assaulted her. Adams denied any sexual assault, saying they only talked about her employment opportunities. Adams continued raising campaign funds and declared for a second term in February of 1992. But two weeks later the Seattle Times reported that eight other women were accusing Adams of sexual molestation over the past 20 years, describing a history of drugging and subsequent rape. Later that day, while still proclaiming his innocence, Adams ended his campaign.
Democrat REP. JIM BATES (D-Calif.): Roll Call quoted former Bates aides in October 1988 saying that the San Diego Democrat made sexual advances toward female staffers. Bates called it a GOP-inspired smear campaign, but also apologized for anything he did that might have seemed inappropriate. The story came too close to Election Day to damage Bates, who won easily. However, the following October the ethics committee sent Bates a "letter of reproval" directing him to make a formal apology to the women who filed the complaint. Although the district was not thought to be hospitable to the GOP, Randy "Duke" Cunningham, a former Navy pilot who was once shot down over North Vietnam, ousted Bates in 1990 by fewer than 2,000 votes.
Democrat REP. GUS SAVAGE (D-Ill.): The Washington Post reported on July 19, 1989, that Savage had fondled a Peace Corps volunteer while on an official visit to Zaire. Savage called the story a lie and blamed it on his political enemies and a racist media. (Savage is black.) In January 1990, the House ethics committee decided that the events did occur, but decided against any disciplinary action because Savage wrote a letter to the woman saying he "never intended to offend" her. Savage was reelected in 1990, but finally ousted in the 1992 primary by Mel Reynolds.
Democrat REP. BARNEY FRANK (D-Mass.): In response to a story in the Aug. 25, 1989, Washington Times, Frank confirmed that he hired Steve Gobie, a male prostitute, in 1985 to live with and work for him in his D.C. apartment. But Frank, who is gay, said he fired Gobie in 1987 when he learned he was using the apartment to run a prostitution service. The Boston Globe, among others, called on Frank to resign, but he refused. On July 19, 1990, the ethics committee recommended Frank be reprimanded because he "reflected discredit upon the House" by using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie's parking tickets. Attempts to expel or censure Frank failed; instead the House voted 408-18 to reprimand him. The fury in Washington was not shared in Frank's district, where he won reelection in 1990 with 66 percent of the vote, and has won by larger margins ever since.
Democrat SEN. DANIEL INOUYE (D-Hawaii): In October 1992, Republican Senate nominee Rick Reed began running a campaign commercial that included a surreptitiously taped interview with Lenore Kwock, Inouye's hairdresser. Kwock said Inouye had sexually forced himself on her in 1975 and continued a pattern of sexual harassment, even as Kwock continued to cut his hair over the years. Inouye, seeking a sixth term, denied the charges. And Kwock said that by running the commercial, Reed had caused her more pain than Inouye had. Reed was forced to pull the ad, and while many voters took out their anger on the Republican, Inouye was held to 57 percent of the vote - the lowest total of his career. A week later, a female Democratic state legislator announced that she had heard from nine other women who claimed Inouye had sexually harassed them over the past decade. But the women didn't go public with their claims, the local press didn't pursue the story, and the Senate Ethics Committee decided to drop the investigation because the accusers wouldn't participate in an inquiry.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Stonehenge]
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Liberals and progressives see communism and socialism through the same sphere, it's not the systems that fail, it's just that the right people weren't in charge, that's why we have to elect them, they're smarter, lol
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There's communist and socialist models that are anarchist or participatory democracies.
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Was there a point to your post?
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paperbackwriter said: There's communist and socialist models that are anarchist or participatory democracies.
This is true. Communism and Socialism don't necessitate big government.
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hostileuniverse said: Liberals and progressives see communism and socialism through the same sphere, it's not the systems that fail, it's just that the right people weren't in charge, that's why we have to elect them, they're smarter, lol
No. You see all Socialist countries in the same light, actually. I can differentiate between violent revolutionary communist states like Russia/Cuba/North Korea, and Democraticly implemented brands of Socialism like the Nordic models or Germany.
You're the one with the myopia, sir.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Stonehenge]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: If it succeeds, people will want to convert to it, and communism doesn't produce billionaires.
How does that mean our billionaires are doomed, as you stated?
They couldn't continue to make billions off their workers. That money would be shared with the people that earned it.
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Stonehenge said: Are you seriously trying to tell us communism works? Why then has it never worked and why did those countries always turn to a limited form of capitalism, by your own statements, if communism is better?
It did better than many capitalist countries. And why do successful capitalist countries always use a bit of socialism, if capitalism is better?
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All capitalist countries that have succeeded have limited socialism. Why do you suppose that is?
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Capitalism would have already died if we hadn't implemented juuust enough Socialism to make it work.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said: Capitalism would have already died if we hadn't implemented juuust enough Socialism to make it work.
"Derp derp yeah without the government people can't live and trade with each other." How stupid do you have to be to believe this shit?
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Bigbadwooof said: Capitalism would have already died if we hadn't implemented juuust enough Socialism to make it work.
"Derp derp yeah without the government people can't live and trade with each other." How stupid do you have to be to believe this shit?
Strawman. Though I believe you're too ignorant to even realize you're strawmanning.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: burgerbrain]
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Bigbadwooof said: Capitalism would have already died if we hadn't implemented juuust enough Socialism to make it work.
Seems to be the case.
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burgerbrain said: "Derp derp yeah without the government people can't live and trade with each other." How stupid do you have to be to believe this shit?
Tell us what countries have done well without a little socialism.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: paperbackwriter]
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paperbackwriter said: Reagan was so terrified of communism his administration turned a blind eye to coke smuggling that fueled the crack epidemic.
Just say no... I mean, just say no if you're white. If you're black buy some crack and help us fight the commies!!
Love that this wasn't addressed.
I guess it's okay to abdicate your morals as long as you do it on moral grounds.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22421708 - 10/23/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did you watch crack in the system on Netflix? Great documentary.
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Bigbadwooof said: Capitalism would have already died if we hadn't implemented juuust enough Socialism to make it work.
"Derp derp yeah without the government people can't live and trade with each other." How stupid do you have to be to believe this shit?
Strawman. Though I believe you're too ignorant to even realize you're strawmanning.
Yeah, again with the Socialism equals big government shit. Pure capitalism led to strikes all over the country because workers were sick of being taken advantage of.
Socialism brought us the 40 hour work week and ended child labor.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: paperbackwriter]
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Is it still playing? Maybe I'll check it out tonight.
Ah the 40 hour work week, piss on that, I don't want a 40 hr work week, I love my 12 hour days, I'd much rather work and make money to support my family and give them a good life than have my weekends off and struggle to pay my bills, just my perspective
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Do you get overtime? That's the other side of the 40 hour work week.
If you don't you can always get a second job.
*edit* And I just googled and it's no longer available to stream. Lame.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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>>How does that mean our billionaires are doomed, as you stated?
>They couldn't continue to make billions off their workers. That money would be shared with the people that earned it.
But billionaires already have money, they will be rich no matter if they make another dime. I think you mean the state will steal their assets, that's what you mean isn't it? Since no one can get rich under communism, the rich will flee if its instituted and all who want to get ahead will try to leave as well.
All governments have some elements of socialism and capitalism in them. We are talking about mostly one or the other.
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hostileuniverse said: Is it still playing? Maybe I'll check it out tonight.
Ah the 40 hour work week, piss on that, I don't want a 40 hr work week, I love my 12 hour days, I'd much rather work and make money to support my family and give them a good life than have my weekends off and struggle to pay my bills, just my perspective
Lol! 
Are you saying that you don't understand what a 40 hour work week means? It means you get overtime pay beyond 40 hours. I dont know how that could be misinterpreted as the 'dumb stupid guberment' limiting the hours you can work.
By the way, being a good dad means spending time with your kids. Not just buying them shit. In fact, that is a much more important role of a father than makin bacon, bruh.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Ah the 40 hour work week, piss on that, I don't want a 40 hr work week, I love my 12 hour days, I'd much rather work and make money to support my family and give them a good life than have my weekends off and struggle to pay my bills, just my perspective
Lol! 
Are you saying that you don't understand what a 40 hour work week means? It means you get overtime pay beyond 40 hours. I dont know how that could be misinterpreted as the 'dumb stupid guberment' limiting the hours you can work.
By the way, being a good dad means spending time with your kids. Not just buying them shit. In fact, that is a much more important role of a father than makin bacon, bruh.
Yeah, and a lot of business limit hours due to it, I'd rather work 50 at my good wage then/than (I'm sure one of you smartasses will correct me) 40 hours at a shitty wage
And yeah, bro, I'm sure my kids would be real happy living in our camper if it means I'm home more, lol
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I'd rather work 50 at a good wage with overtime than 50 at a good wage without.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said: Is it still playing? Maybe I'll check it out tonight.
Ah the 40 hour work week, piss on that, I don't want a 40 hr work week, I love my 12 hour days, I'd much rather work and make money to support my family and give them a good life than have my weekends off and struggle to pay my bills, just my perspective
Lol! 
Are you saying that you don't understand what a 40 hour work week means? It means you get overtime pay beyond 40 hours. I dont know how that could be misinterpreted as the 'dumb stupid guberment' limiting the hours you can work.
By the way, being a good dad means spending time with your kids. Not just buying them shit. In fact, that is a much more important role of a father than makin bacon, bruh.
Yeah, and a lot of business limit hours due to it, I'd rather work 50 at my good wage then/than (I'm sure one of you smartasses will correct me) 40 hours at a shitty wage
And yeah, bro, I'm sure my kids would be real happy living in our camper if it means I'm home more, lol
I like my overtime pay. Most people do. You're very much in the minority on this subject.
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Oh I like overtime pay too, but there's a good segment of the economy where you never get those extra hours because of that
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All these people working so many hours yet they spend all day on the shroomery. Eventually they will catch on to the fact you are posting and not working. Then, no more hours at all.
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Lol, I know. Posting feels like work sometimes though lmao... just like underwtanding posts feels like a months hard labor to BB!
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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as usual, Rush is right, he even predicted this 3 years ago...
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/01/07/don_t_pooh_pooh_the_left_s_push_to_normalize_pedophilia
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This is the point. You didn't know it, I didn't know it 'til I ran across the story, you didn't know it, and most other people don't know it, either, and this is why it succeeds. Most people don't have time for stuff like this. Most people aren't reading the UK Guardian; they're trying to get jobs. Or, as in the case of some, I got a New York Post story here: "Welfare Recipients Take Out Cash At Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores And X-Rated Shops." Welfare recipients are using the debit cards at these kinds of places, whatever, they're not paying any attention to pedophilia. So this stuff happens literally under the radar.
I encourage everyone to read the transcript, its a great read and outlines the underground push for this, here's Rush's source for all the "he's lying" crowd
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Always with the "welfare queen" narrative.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said: as usual, Rush is right, he even predicted this 3 years ago...
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/01/07/don_t_pooh_pooh_the_left_s_push_to_normalize_pedophilia
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This is the point. You didn't know it, I didn't know it 'til I ran across the story, you didn't know it, and most other people don't know it, either, and this is why it succeeds. Most people don't have time for stuff like this. Most people aren't reading the UK Guardian; they're trying to get jobs. Or, as in the case of some, I got a New York Post story here: "Welfare Recipients Take Out Cash At Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores And X-Rated Shops." Welfare recipients are using the debit cards at these kinds of places, whatever, they're not paying any attention to pedophilia. So this stuff happens literally under the radar.
I encourage everyone to read the transcript, its a great read and outlines the underground push for this, here's Rush's source for all the "he's lying" crowd
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light
Anyone that starts a sentence with 'As usual, Rush is right' is surely a hopelessly confused individual.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22432071 - 10/25/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here's Rush's record for things people asked Politifact about:
True - 0 (0%) Mostly True - 2 (6%) Half True - 4 (12%) Mostly False - 9 (27%) False - 10 (30%) Pants on Fire - 8 (24%)
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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True - 0 (0%) Mostly True - 2 (6%) Half True - 4 (12%) Mostly False - 9 (27%) False - 10 (30%) Pants on Fire - 8 (24%)
May as well have quoted media matters...
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Who cares about the source if the rational is provided? There were 33 examples provided by Politifact. Which do you feel they got wrong???
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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HU is right as usual, fal. Politifact is a garbage left wing rag or you could say one of the propaganda arms of a left wing rag. Their reasoning is about as logical as yours, meaning not very and no wonder you like them. They are totally bogus.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Stonehenge]
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They provided the rationale behind their decisions, unlike you who just calls it "totally bogus" without even analyzing it.
Again, which of their 33 examples do you disagree with?
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: They provided the rationale behind their decisions, unlike you who just calls it "totally bogus" without even analyzing it.
Again, which of their 33 examples do you disagree with? 
All of them, however the Clinton foundation giving only 15% of donations to charity was "mostly false" but it's been reported by numerous news agencies that in fact is true, I'm not gonna go through all 33, maybe if you actually provided proof of your assertions, not just some dumb survey by liberals, lol
http://www.examiner.com/article/clinton-foundation-only-gives-15-percent-of-donations-to-charities-irs-concern
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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how is political based on liberal surveys lol
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Here's Rush's record for things people asked Politifact about:
True - 0 (0%) Mostly True - 2 (6%) Half True - 4 (12%) Mostly False - 9 (27%) False - 10 (30%) Pants on Fire - 8 (24%)
Nonono... He's right 99% of the time. Politifact is Liberal propaganda. DUH! You're such a Libtard Falcon.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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True - 0 (0%) Mostly True - 2 (6%) Half True - 4 (12%) Mostly False - 9 (27%) False - 10 (30%) Pants on Fire - 8 (24%)
Nonono... He's right 99% of the time. Politifact is Liberal propaganda. DUH! You're such a Libtard Falcon.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: paperbackwriter]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Here's Rush's record for things people asked Politifact about:
True - 0 (0%) Mostly True - 2 (6%) Half True - 4 (12%) Mostly False - 9 (27%) False - 10 (30%) Pants on Fire - 8 (24%)
Nonono... He's right 99% of the time. Politifact is Liberal propaganda. DUH! You're such a Libtard Falcon.
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Sorry... I get them confused sometimes..
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Again, which of their 33 examples do you disagree with? 
All of them, however the Clinton foundation giving only 15% of donations to charity was "mostly false" but it's been reported by numerous news agencies that in fact is true, I'm not gonna go through all 33, maybe if you actually provided proof of your assertions, not just some dumb survey by liberals, lol
http://www.examiner.com/article/clinton-foundation-only-gives-15-percent-of-donations-to-charities-irs-concern
Exactly! Its a rag like I said and an extremely biased one at that. It figures fal constantly uses it as a source.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: They provided the rationale behind their decisions, unlike you who just calls it "totally bogus" without even analyzing it.
Again, which of their 33 examples do you disagree with? 
All of them, however the Clinton foundation giving only 15% of donations to charity was "mostly false" but it's been reported by numerous news agencies that in fact is true, I'm not gonna go through all 33, maybe if you actually provided proof of your assertions, not just some dumb survey by liberals, lol
http://www.examiner.com/article/clinton-foundation-only-gives-15-percent-of-donations-to-charities-irs-concern
Obviously you didn't bother reading the Politifact argument. It explains exactly why the Examiner article was "mostly false".
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Wow... I didnt realize HU had already given the response that I attributed to him before I said it lol!
Every source of information aside from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh is 'Liberal Propaganda' lmao!
I love it! What it must be like to live in that tiny little box.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said: Wow... I didnt realize HU had already given the response that I attributed to him before I said it lol!
Every source of information aside from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh is 'Liberal Propaganda' lmao!
I love it! What it must be like to live in that tiny little box.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Blah blah blah "Rush Limbaugh" bad, herp a derp - Bigbaldwoof
So you distrust Politifact, yet you can't point out a single error of 33 Rush Limbaugh mistruths. That's 'living in a box', dude.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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It's easy to play the persecution card, why do you think evangelicals line up to vote R?
Gay marriage? Gay agenda. Education? liberal indoctrination. Taxes? Legalized theft. Science? Liberal/statist conspiracy for control.
Future generations of Americans will look back on the politics between the end of the Cold War and whatever happens when peak oil comes about, and they will rightfully be shocked at we handled things. But they will be particularly agasp at the GOP, who for decades has flown in the face of seemingly every single effort for equality, peace, science, education, healthcare, and well being we've mustered.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Peak oil? Wasn't that supposed to happen in the 70's? As technology advances, we are finding that we can extract more now than ever, ya see? Science, it's a wonderful thing
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said: Peak oil? Wasn't that supposed to happen in the 70's? As technology advances, we are finding that we can extract more now than ever, ya see? Science, it's a wonderful thing
If I have a glass of orange juice, I might be able to drink it faster with two straws, but that doesn't mean there's anymore of it in the glass.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Exactly. His post made it sound like he thinks oil will never run out.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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lol, yeah.
"Science is perfect for helping us get more oil, but terrible at telling us about how much there is or how burning it affects the planet."
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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They have been adding ethanol to more gasoline nowadays.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Exactly. His post made it sound like he thinks oil will never run out. 
We won't run out, at least not completely.
There is still a lot of oil that is hard and expensive as hell to drill.
If anything it would make prices rise so high hardly anyone would buy it.
I guarantee by that time we will have found a better alternative anyway.
We probably haven't reached worldwide peak oil yet, however the US did in 1971.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Exactly. His post made it sound like he thinks oil will never run out. 
We won't run out, at least not completely.
There is still a lot of oil that is hard and expensive as hell to drill.
If anything it would make prices rise so high hardly anyone would buy it.
I guarantee by that time we will have found a better alternative anyway.
We probably haven't reached worldwide peak oil yet, however the US did in 1971.
Cars can be run on natural gas with virtually no biproduct, and no need for oil changes, because it burns so clean. I believe America has the worlds largest reserves of natural gas, and it would be much cheaper than gasoline to run a car on it. There are kits to convert your car to natural gas, but you have to buy a lot of expensive equipment, and hook it up to your the gas line in your house. It's a big hassle and expensive for a single person to take on. Beyond that though, you get the equivalent of $0.5/gallon of gasoline.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Natural gas vs. what?
That is still petroleum; it's just a light fraction.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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micro said: Natural gas vs. what?
That is still petroleum; it's just a light fraction.
Natural gas vs gasoline... obviously...
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Exactly. His post made it sound like he thinks oil will never run out. 
We won't run out, at least not completely.
There is still a lot of oil that is hard and expensive as hell to drill.
If anything it would make prices rise so high hardly anyone would buy it.
I guarantee by that time we will have found a better alternative anyway.
We probably haven't reached worldwide peak oil yet, however the US did in 1971.
Cars can be run on natural gas with virtually no biproduct, and no need for oil changes, because it burns so clean. I believe America has the worlds largest reserves of natural gas, and it would be much cheaper than gasoline to run a car on it. There are kits to convert your car to natural gas, but you have to buy a lot of expensive equipment, and hook it up to your the gas line in your house. It's a big hassle and expensive for a single person to take on. Beyond that though, you get the equivalent of $0.5/gallon of gasoline.
Congress/Obama should have started a natural gas pumping stations program across the country, yet again another great opportunity pissed away.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said: Ok, let's look at science behind climate change ... So as you can see, the science is NOT settled, and if there was so much overwhelming evidence to support it, why do scientists fudge, omit, and flat out lie about the data?
Grants? This is unfortunate, but I guess is a part of human nature.
Regarding the weather, the only way to make these kinds of predictions about such a stochastic system is with computer models and such. Seeing how accurately we can predict the weather in a week, I find it hard to trust the accuracy of predictions a decade or century or however long down the road. There is simply too much going on; it's a chaotic system and involves both micro and macroscopic as well as even interstellar forces. As an example:
http://oilprice.com/The-Environment/Global-Warming/Interstellar-Energy-Cloud-May-Be-As-Much-To-Blame-For-Climate-Change-As-CO2-Emissions.html
Who the hell would have seen *that* coming? 
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Bigbadwooof said: Natural gas vs gasoline... obviously...
Ah, I see where you are going, now.
I thought this had some juxtaposition with the peak oil thing.
I guess it would be good for getting sales to become more domestic.
It's also cheaper but I'm not sure if it is going to convince people it is worth the cost for conversion.
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There are kits to convert your car to natural gas, but you have to buy a lot of expensive equipment, and hook it up to your the gas line in your house. It's a big hassle and expensive for a single person to take on. Beyond that though, you get the equivalent of $0.5/gallon of gasoline.
$0.50c / gallon seems awfully low, especially looking at this:
http://www.cngnow.com/average-cng-prices/pages/default.aspx
Then again, if you are getting gas delivered directly through a hub it may be different.
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Congress/Obama should have started a natural gas pumping stations program across the country, yet again another great opportunity pissed away.
It could be good for the economy but I'd wonder how practical that would be. If nobody uses it then the program would be a waste of money. With a total of one CNG car in production, car companies don't seem to think they will. You could make the argument that it's an investment, but that doesn't affect the length of the presidential term which I'm sure is a factor. With programs like this, people like to see results immediately and don't think long-term.
This is a shame because it seems stations that pump it are pretty damn sparse.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: micro]
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I think switching to natural gas would remove a lot of the stigma toward auto manufacturers and energy companies. In fact, they might be celebrated by the tree hugging hippies. Oil will always be useful for plastics and tires anyway. I think it would be great PR for a political regime.
Anyways... I'm just spitballin shit... I havent given it a lot of thought really.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: micro]
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That price, about $2.10 is for 1 million btu of natural gas. Gasoline has about 114,000 btu per gallon. That does not mean necessarily a million btu of cng or lng can take you 9 times as far as a gallon of gasoline but it will definitely take you farther than a gallon of gas. So 50 cent a gallon comparison to gasoline is reasonable.
However, 1m btu of gas will be several gallons, I'm not sure how many. A gallon of lng is only about 70% at most as powerful as a gallon of gasoline so you would need a larger tank and it would have to be under pressure though not that much. It would take special carburetors or fuel injectors and recalibrating of the car. It can be retrofitted.
If our idiot president had spent even 10% of the money he wasted destroying those other countries, we would have it now. Why can't he spend money at home? Except for big industry making bombs etc, none of it was spent here.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22437394 - 10/26/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: That price, about $2.10 is for 1 million btu of natural gas. Gasoline has about 114,000 btu per gallon. That does not mean necessarily a million btu of cng or lng can take you 9 times as far as a gallon of gasoline but it will definitely take you farther than a gallon of gas. So 50 cent a gallon comparison to gasoline is reasonable.
Not from what I'm seeing on that site and others...
http://www.cngnow.com/vehicles/calculator/pages/information.aspx
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2.08 Per gasoline gallon equivalent (GGE)
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GGE – Gallon of Gasoline Equivalent is the typical way CNG is sold at public fueling stations and the typical way that CNG tanks are rated. One standard GGE = 114,000 BTUs which equals 126.67 SCF (126.67).
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: micro]
#22437508 - 10/26/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can't find the page where I saw the price as 2.10 per mmbtu but here is a link that shows a price of 4.59 for 1000 cu ft back in july and we know prices have tumbled since then. 1000 cu ft of gas = 1 million btu so my figures would be approximately correct
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_pri_sum_dcu_nus_m.htm
Your link is dated 2012. I do see where they say the equivalent is 2.08 per gallon of gasoline but that may include a lot of profit, I don't know. Or prices may have fallen a lot. Oil was $100 a barrel not too long ago so those prices may reflect that. It also says $8k for a conversion which sounds high. You may have to give up most of the trunk space to do it but I bet you could convert for a lot less.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said: I can't find the page where I saw the price as 2.10 per mmbtu but here is a link that shows a price of 4.59 for 1000 cu ft back in july and we know prices have tumbled since then. 1000 cu ft of gas = 1 million btu so my figures would be approximately correct
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_pri_sum_dcu_nus_m.htm
That is import/export data. 1000 cubic feet is 7480 gallons :o
In other words, how much someone like BP or Chevron pays, not someone at a pump.
They own the facilities to park it and all that which must be why it is so cheap.
I was using this; I assume it is supposedly as up-to-date as possible *shrugs*
http://www.cngnow.com/average-cng-prices/pages/default.aspx
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Your link is dated 2012
It's a calculator. I'd assume they made it in 2012.
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said: That price, about $2.10 is for 1 million btu of natural gas. Gasoline has about 114,000 btu per gallon. That does not mean necessarily a million btu of cng or lng can take you 9 times as far as a gallon of gasoline but it will definitely take you farther than a gallon of gas. So 50 cent a gallon comparison to gasoline is reasonable.
However, 1m btu of gas will be several gallons, I'm not sure how many. A gallon of lng is only about 70% at most as powerful as a gallon of gasoline so you would need a larger tank and it would have to be under pressure though not that much. It would take special carburetors or fuel injectors and recalibrating of the car. It can be retrofitted.
If our idiot president had spent even 10% of the money he wasted destroying those other countries, we would have it now. Why can't he spend money at home? Except for big industry making bombs etc, none of it was spent here.
Now here's something I strongly agree with you on, Stoney!
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Re: Liberals are trying to "normalize" pedophilia... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22449845 - 10/29/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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when liberal publications are the ones doing it, yeah, that IS trying to normalize it...
"one liberal speaks, they all listen...."blah blah blah blah
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