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Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) *DELETED*
    #22314033 - 09/30/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00] * 3
    #22314043 - 09/30/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

He searched your scooter?

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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Sun King]
    #22314048 - 09/30/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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He searched your scooter?

:hahthatsrich:



yes :smile:


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314068 - 09/30/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Did he find anything?


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314070 - 09/30/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:smugjerry:


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22314108 - 09/30/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I see no probable cause. But people have been shot for less so thank god you're white! EDIT: No registration is a mess up tho


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: DivineO]
    #22314119 - 09/30/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomslip said:
:smugjerry:



Quote:

DivineO said:
I see no probable cause. But people have been shot for less so thank god you're white! EDIT: No registration is a mess up tho



I know that but the guy who sold the scooter to me, said for the first week I should be fine if a cop pulls me over, I can just show him the paper work and tell him I'm going to register it soon. He said one customer did this with no problem.
Like i said I got it on saturday, which would mean I would have to go to the RMV on monday the day I got pulled over. Cops just give u no breaks. Especially for me. Im black.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314124 - 09/30/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You haven't answered if anything was found


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Herbologist]
    #22314131 - 09/30/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You haven't answered if anything was found



you didn't ask :smile:. No nothing was found, i just had my lock in there. But I can tell he was looking hard for something illegal.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314134 - 09/30/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22314143 - 09/30/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:underage:



I love when u post :underage: & :smugjerry: on my threads!
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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314146 - 09/30/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Herbologist said:
You haven't answered if anything was found



you didn't ask :smile:. No nothing was found, i just had my lock in there. But I can tell he was looking hard for something illegal.



Do you have dreads and/or wear a drug rug?


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314149 - 09/30/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Sun King said:
He searched your scooter?

:hahthatsrich:




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Im black.




Well now it makes sense.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: TheMovement]
    #22314152 - 09/30/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You haven't answered if anything was found



you didn't ask :smile:. No nothing was found, i just had my lock in there. But I can tell he was looking hard for something illegal.



Do you have dreads and/or wear a drug rug?



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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00] * 1
    #22314158 - 09/30/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
Quote:

Shroomslip said:
:smugjerry:



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I see no probable cause. But people have been shot for less so thank god you're white! EDIT: No registration is a mess up tho



I know that but the guy who sold the scooter to me, said for the first week I should be fine if a cop pulls me over, I can just show him the paper work and tell him I'm going to register it soon. He said one customer did this with no problem.
Like i said I got it on saturday, which would mean I would have to go to the RMV on monday the day I got pulled over. Cops just give u no breaks. Especially for me. Im black.




Why would you expect a "break" for driving a unregistered vehicle?


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00] * 1
    #22314168 - 09/30/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Shroomslip said:
:underage:



I love when u post :underage: & :smugjerry: on my threads!
:smile:



Glad because I'm basically always going to do it. IMO you deserve to never have your threads answered with anything more than the two.
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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22314177 - 09/30/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
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Shroomslip said:
:smugjerry:



Quote:

DivineO said:
I see no probable cause. But people have been shot for less so thank god you're white! EDIT: No registration is a mess up tho



I know that but the guy who sold the scooter to me, said for the first week I should be fine if a cop pulls me over, I can just show him the paper work and tell him I'm going to register it soon. He said one customer did this with no problem.
Like i said I got it on saturday, which would mean I would have to go to the RMV on monday the day I got pulled over. Cops just give u no breaks. Especially for me. Im black.




Why would you expect a "break" for driving a unregistered vehicle?



I know why.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314207 - 09/30/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Herbologist said:
You haven't answered if anything was found



you didn't ask :smile:. No nothing was found, i just had my lock in there. But I can tell he was looking hard for something illegal.





Sun King asked so I was waiting to see your answer.

At least he didnt find anything. :thumbup:


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: D.M.T]
    #22314214 - 09/30/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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D.M.T said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Cowb0yNeal00 said:
Quote:

DivineO said:
I see no probable cause. But people have been shot for less so thank god you're white! EDIT: No registration is a mess up tho



I know that but the guy who sold the scooter to me, said for the first week I should be fine if a cop pulls me over, I can just show him the paper work and tell him I'm going to register it soon. He said one customer did this with no problem.
Like i said I got it on saturday, which would mean I would have to go to the RMV on monday the day I got pulled over. Cops just give u no breaks. Especially for me. Im black.




Why would you expect a "break" for driving a unregistered vehicle?



I know why.




because he's white and privileged? :trollcop:


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Herbologist]
    #22314225 - 09/30/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yea sorry he just asked if it was searched. Not if anything was found, but i would have said something if anything was found :smile: lol. Yea that is very good for me!


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00] * 7
    #22314237 - 09/30/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314248 - 09/30/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

if I were to go out on a limb id say he had the right to search you bicycle because it was unregistered/ aka its not supposed to be on the road.  If its not supposed to be on the road I feel like he should be able to do anything he wants because you could be a terrorist


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22314252 - 09/30/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nope because like I said the seller told me it would be ok, for the first week, he said a couple customers just showed the cop the paper work and they were on their way. I got it saturday and would have had to go to register it on monday. But this is not the point.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: D.M.T]
    #22314261 - 09/30/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You guys are not following what's going on here. From the time you buy a vehicle whether it be a scooter or a car or a truck, you have what I believe is five days to register it from the date of purchase.
Op got towed on the second day, even with a bill of sale. LEGALLY he was within the confines of the law and shouldn't have been towed.
I can see a fine for running the red light, but in no situation do I believe there was a reason for the tow.

What could have been a simple fine turned into something that maybe op can't afford, impound fees ect.

I really don't think anything can be done about it now but no, he shouldn't have been towed in the first place...


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22314264 - 09/30/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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if I were to go out on a limb id say he had the right to search you bicycle because it was unregistered/ aka its not supposed to be on the road.  If its not supposed to be on the road I feel like he should be able to do anything he wants because you could be a terrorist



ok yea i guess that makes sense. thanks.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314283 - 09/30/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Nope because like I said the seller told me it would be ok, for the first week, he said a couple customers just showed the cop the paper work and they were on their way. I got it saturday and would have had to go to register it on monday. But this is not the point.




did he give you a temp plate?  you might have 5 days to register but you can't just drive around the city with no plates........


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314295 - 09/30/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

He is allowed to be in the road though, you have five days with a bill of sale, he got pulled on the second day. And technically if he got towed because of not having plates it doesn't make any sense because if you have five days to register doesn't that mean you have five days of no plates as well...?


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #22314298 - 09/30/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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goldcaphunter said:
You guys are not following what's going on here. From the time you buy a vehicle whether it be a scooter or a car or a truck, you have what I believe is five days to register it from the date of purchase.




Varies. In my state it's 30 days.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #22314309 - 09/30/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

goldcaphunter said:
You guys are not following what's going on here. From the time you buy a vehicle whether it be a scooter or a car or a truck, you have what I believe is five days to register it from the date of purchase.
Op got towed on the second day, even with a bill of sale. LEGALLY he was within the confines of the law and shouldn't have been towed.
I can see a fine for running the red light, but in no situation do I believe there was a reason for the tow.

What could have been a simple fine turned into something that maybe op can't afford, impound fees ect.

I really don't think anything can be done about it now but no, he shouldn't have been towed in the first place...




It's called having a temporary registration, which apparently he didn't have, and his friend sounds like a misinformed fool.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22314313 - 09/30/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's a long ass time, I know in mass it's much shorter but still fair.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: qman]
    #22314338 - 09/30/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

goldcaphunter said:
You guys are not following what's going on here. From the time you buy a vehicle whether it be a scooter or a car or a truck, you have what I believe is five days to register it from the date of purchase.
Op got towed on the second day, even with a bill of sale. LEGALLY he was within the confines of the law and shouldn't have been towed.
I can see a fine for running the red light, but in no situation do I believe there was a reason for the tow.

What could have been a simple fine turned into something that maybe op can't afford, impound fees ect.

I really don't think anything can be done about it now but no, he shouldn't have been towed in the first place...




It's called having a temporary registration, which apparently he didn't have, and his friend sounds like a misinformed fool.




If you have a bill of sale, you don't need a temp, not in mass anyways. I've even been pulled over in cars purchased that week with nothing but a bill of sale and been perfectly fine.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #22314341 - 09/30/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've always had temp registration and a temp license plate before i pulled out of the lot


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #22314348 - 09/30/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You guys are not following what's going on here. From the time you buy a vehicle whether it be a scooter or a car or a truck, you have what I believe is five days to register it from the date of purchase.
Op got towed on the second day, even with a bill of sale. LEGALLY he was within the confines of the law and shouldn't have been towed.
I can see a fine for running the red light, but in no situation do I believe there was a reason for the tow.

What could have been a simple fine turned into something that maybe op can't afford, impound fees ect.

I really don't think anything can be done about it now but no, he shouldn't have been towed in the first place...



:whathesaid: thanks man. Im going to bring the scooter in for a check up at 200 miles, ill ask the seller then.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #22314360 - 09/30/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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you have what I believe is five days to register it from the date of purchase.



Source?


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Herbologist]
    #22314363 - 09/30/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I've always had temp registration and a temp license plate before i pulled out of the lot



Well this scooter is under 50cc (only goes to 30 mph) and therefore just considered a motor bike. So there was no plate or anything. the only thing i got from the registry of motor vehicles yesterday was just a small sticker to put on the back.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Enlil]
    #22314374 - 09/30/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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you have what I believe is five days to register it from the date of purchase.



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OP:  They don't need probable cause to search.  They only need reasonable suspicion because they're going to argue that the storage compartment on your scooter is the equivalent of a glove compartment.



Ok, well doesn't matter if its a car or scooter, I was just asking if they are allowed to search in general. Well if they don't need probable cause then I guess that answers my question. thanks


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314380 - 09/30/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

In a car, they don't need probable cause to search the passenger compartment.  For the trunk they do.  On your scooter, everything is so close and easy to reach for, the storage would probably be considered to be a part of the passenger compartment.


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Enlil]
    #22314411 - 09/30/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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you have what I believe is five days to register it from the date of purchase.



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OP:  They don't need probable cause to search.  They only need reasonable suspicion because they're going to argue that the storage compartment on your scooter is the equivalent of a glove compartment.




Personal experience as of two months ago. I was in a similar situation and the state police that pulled me over told me this


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Enlil]
    #22314425 - 09/30/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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In a car, they don't need probable cause to search the passenger compartment.  For the trunk they do.  On your scooter, everything is so close and easy to reach for, the storage would probably be considered to be a part of the passenger compartment.





Aren't probably cause and reasonable suspicion the same thing?


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #22314445 - 09/30/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Personal experience as of two months ago. I was in a similar situation and the state police that pulled me over told me this



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Aren't probably cause and reasonable suspicion the same thing?



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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22314450 - 09/30/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So a couple days ago I was pulled over driving my scooter for running a red-light in the city.
I had bought the scooter last saturday and did not have a chance to go to the RMV yet to register it
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...search my scooter compartment and I told him not to, but he still did. I recorded the whole thing



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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: vinsue]
    #22314476 - 09/30/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314663 - 09/30/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

personally I view the seat on a bike to be considered like the trunk on a car.  you can't access it without exiting the motor veichle so there shouldn't be a reason to search it.  I assume the reason they are allowed to search the passenger compartment is because that is all within easy access and therefor drugs/alcohol could be within reach and pose a danger, so yah if your sitting on the thing and can get to it without exit then it should be considered like the trunk, whether the judge see's it that way who knows


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Re: Are cops allowed to search your vehicle before getting towed? (legal question) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22314944 - 09/30/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Was it one of these cops?



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