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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: 1234go] 2
#22314544 - 09/30/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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haters gonna hate 
On average, the vegan restaurants near me are usually way better than any other near it.
there's some* plain vegan food, but for the most part, they know how to cook man.
not relying on animals fats for taste makes you get creative with spices yo
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: dirtyhippie] 4
#22314548 - 09/30/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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336 said: Regardless eating vegan is too expensive imo.

"I'm took broke to afford beans and rice and vegetables."
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: dirtyhippie]
#22314572 - 09/30/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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GoldenEye said: Then why does it take about 1000 liters of water to make 1 liter of milk? Maybe I misplaced the blame but the problem remains.
Dairy cows require a lot of water. More than beef cows. Most people dig ponds for their cows to drink, play and shit in, so whatever the real cost of water is for dairy, I am sure it is greatly exaggerated like everything else vegans use to justify themselves.
Cows graze all season except in the winter. While the grass is dead that's when they are fed grains. Very few farmers could afford to feed their herds all year round.
Soybeans will benefit from irrigation in much of the midwest climate, but this year in Ohio it was too wet. My fields look terrible from all the rain, because there needs to be a dry period to spray. That dry period never came, hence early yellowing and stunted crop.
In the end it just comes down to efficiency. There isn't even enough landmass to let all cows graze. Most of them will have to be fed. Whatever they get fed (soy, corn, doesn't matter) has to be grown. Whatever is grown could also be fed to humans directly. Or better yet, more diverse produce could be grown and that could be fed to humans.
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: Mr.PhilCybin] 1
#22314573 - 09/30/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some of the best (vegan) food I ever ate was from street vendors in Ludhiana, India. Very affordable to make a similar meal in America, but it just wouldn't have the same magic touch.
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: GoldenEye]
#22314577 - 09/30/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Word at the money argument. Veggies are cheap man.
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: GoldenEye]
#22314600 - 09/30/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It doesn't take a large space at all to grow a completely self-sustainable garden. The average American backyard could feed an entire family very cheaply.
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: dirtyhippie]
#22314608 - 09/30/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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336 said:
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Mr.PhilCybin said:
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336 said: Regardless eating vegan is too expensive imo.

"I'm took broke to afford beans and rice and vegetables."

Trust me that gets old.
because it's a totally bogus claim.
that's an ignorant cop out at best.
eating animals is always gonna be more expensive unless you're eating dollar meal bullshit. but at that point, if you look at what what you're getting for your money, it's not cheaper.
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: dirtyhippie] 1
#22314727 - 09/30/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Vegans are sooo damn preachy,especially young chicks ime.
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Tell them your food eats their food, so that means they are your food.
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Vegans are sooo damn preachy
Aren't we all?
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: dirtyhippie] 2
#22314750 - 09/30/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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dude, you don't know what you're talking about man.
straight up.
the custie ass "vegan this and that" is of course gonna be expensive. cause it's "cool" right now.
but all it comes down to is buying really simple pure foods man.
seriously, the shit you're buying at the grocery stores "that all has animal" product in it, isn't THAT cheap either.
you're paying for a brand name, a label, and pretty plastic packaging.
I'm pretty damn broke, and I'm in the best shape of my life, and I haven't eaten animals in 5 years.
Don't buy into all that custie vegan bullshit. it's cheap man. it's just simple raw foods.
I'm not vegan, and I'm not telling anyone to be, or not to be.
I'm just sayin you don't have your facts straight.
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: 1234go]
#22314759 - 09/30/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why would you want to be vegan op. I've got nothing against vegans -eating vegan is cheaper where I live anyhow- But meat is just so much better than beans n' lentils
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: dirtyhippie]
#22314769 - 09/30/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's the hippy thing to do.
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: 1234go]
#22314787 - 09/30/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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1234go said:
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Vegans are sooo damn preachy
Aren't we all? 
preach
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: Sham87]
#22314795 - 09/30/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can vegans eat, bacon,burgers,chicken,milk,bread,cheese,butter,beef an what else can they not eat eat that is the reason why.... you should not be a vegan!
Dumb Cunt!
This thread is Bogus @R.E.. Convince me why i should be a vegan...!
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Do you believe...!??"
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: Cujllickduo]
#22314815 - 09/30/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You fucking one up'd Akira.
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: Cujllickduo] 2
#22314844 - 09/30/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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JustAnotherFreak said: Can vegans eat, bacon,burgers,chicken,milk,bread,cheese,butter,beef an what else can they not eat eat that is the reason why.... you should not be a vegan!
Dumb Cunt!
This thread is Bogus @R.E.. Convince me why i should be a vegan...!
Do You want to be ?
Do you believe...!??"
Yes vegans can eat bread.
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: dirtyhippie] 3
#22314852 - 09/30/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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exactly my point.
all you have available to you at those two stores are big globo-corp kinda foods, which have packaging, marketing costs, etc. built in.
check out farmers markets. you can get better produce for often cheaper prices.
and don't be so presumptuous man, I've never been around much money.
I get by, but I'm by no means doing "well" by american standards.
edit: I just had a long discussion with my roommate, and I think it boils down to this -
both diets can be done really cheap. I think veganism is definitely healthier than the "typical" american diet, but, it requires way more time and effort.
I think it boils down to a priority thing.
do I wanna go to the farmers market to get my produce, then the discount grocery store to get rice and beans, and then the health food shop for spices after work and then spend about an hour cooking dinner, or do I wanna throw in a frozen pizza and relax on the couch?
I get it, but to say vegan foods are unarguably more expensive and tastes like crap is just an uneducated viewpoint.
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Edited by Mr.PhilCybin (09/30/15 04:07 PM)
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Re: Convince me why I should become a vegan [Re: dirtyhippie]
#22314950 - 09/30/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: Vegans are sooo damn preachy,especially young chicks ime.
Seriously. It's so fucking annoying. Just reminds me of BC and being "straight edge" lol
so true, along with religious and atheistic evangelists. It's not that I mind their views but that make it seem like you are retarded if you don't believe what they do. Not just vegans
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