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Anonymous #1
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How to control my drinking?
#22313188 - 09/30/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is backstory and not my question: I know exactly what replies I'm going to get, I'm just hoping I somehow get one or two that actually bother to answer what I'm about to ask. The rest I'm just going to ignore because I don't feel like arguing over it. So if your first instinct is to tell me to quit or anything in that vein, save yourself the time. I guarantee none of it something I haven't heard before and even come to realize on my own. I don't need to make a post to be told what I already know.
I'm an alcoholic. Have been for quite a while. Over the last few years it has gotten exponentially worse. To the point of drinking 18 packs of beer and half a liter of liquor every day. A while back I attempted to to quit drinking and did well for a short while. I managed to cut the liquor out and get my drinking down to just a few beers a night. Then I tried to cut it all off, and relapsed/rebounded the next day. Not only did I relapse, but I started drinking heavily again, still no liquor but my beer intake is 4x what it was before trying to quit.
I managed to cut it down before, but I'm finding myself unable to do it again. I do good one day, but then the next I just end up making up for it by drinking 2x as much as the day before, or more. I can't seem to control it. No matter how badly I want to or how hard I try. I really don't understand what the fuck is going on. I managed to do it before, why can't I now?
It sounds like excuse but I do need to drink, at least a little per day. I have severe insomnia and have probably spent at least a thousand on doctor visits alone just trying to find a med that will work. I have one, but it only works when I drink SOME alcohol. I don't need to get drunk to make it work, even a few beers or a couple of shots will do it. In fact it routinely does, on the days I only manage to drink a few, it knocks me out cold. But without it, it just doesn't work. Not to mention the last time I tried to quit I rebounded hard and ended up in a worse state than I started.
How do I get this under control? How can I balance this? I'm just lost at this point. I have no idea why I was able to reign it in so much (in comparison to where I was at and what I ended up at, I might as well of not been drinking at all) and now I can't seem to do it. I've spent weeks contemplating this, trying to figure it out and I got nothing.
Yes, yes I know the answer everyone wants to say is "just stop". But again, that's not the answer I'm looking for and I didn't need to ask here to be told that. It's not as if I'm oblivious. I just want to find some way to put this shit in check, get what I need from it, and stop binge drinking every night. If you've got advice great, if you just want to tell me how I'm addict or state the obvious, like I said I'm going to ignore it. I'm a self admitted alcoholic and nothing anyone can say in relation to that is news to me.
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Anonymous #2
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Do you think you could cut off liquor altogether? I would try to just cut down to beer. I know what you mean by people saying just stop. It's hard. I had a pretty big drinking problem. Then I cut out liquor. Well I would make up for it by drinking more beer. But quitting liquor was the best decision I ever made. Eventually I would drink less and less beers each night. Mostly for the fact that it would take so much beer and effort to get drunk. Now I just have a few beers a night don't even really get buzzed but it's just more of a habit now then anything.
I think of you can resist the temptation to drink liquor you can start to manage it a little better. That's what happened in my case anyway. My advice is drop the liquor and take it from there.
Everyone does their own thing, drinks their own way. People will give you different opinions on how they would do it or did it. But you gotta figure it out for yourself for the most part. Cutting down a little every night or every other day, could be anything. But like I said when I cut liquor out completely I got a grasp on it so that would be my recommendation on the first think you do.
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Anonymous #1
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I already have cut out the liquor. Back when I decided to try and stop drinking I decided to ween myself off of alcohol to avoid the withdrawal because I had a really bad habit for a pretty long time. I cut out the liquor and slowly dropped my intake to around 3 or 4 beers a night and after awhile finally decided to stop all together. I made it one day and then decided I couldn't take it. When I went back to it, I expected to just be sticking to the 3-4 a day thing, I mean that's not terribly bad, not ideal but it's not really that bad either.
Problem is, I haven't been able to get it under control again now (it's been a couple months at least). I'm finding myself drinking up to 14 a day. Some days I manage to stick to 6 (did yesterday) but other days I can't seem to control myself.
I'm just kind of at a loss as to why I'm having so much trouble regulating it now like I had before. My thinking is there is something going on I'm not consciously aware of (like some kind of psychological thing I guess) and until I am, I won't be able to get it under control again. I'm not using that as an excuse to keep heavily drinking like "well since I dunno what's going on I can't control it so why bother". I'm still actively trying control it and figure out why I am failing. If I hadn't done it before, I'd just call it part of the alcoholism, but since I have, I find it hard to believe there's not some other issue.
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Anonymous #3
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Re: How to control my drinking? [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#22322021 - 10/02/15 02:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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exercising has really helped me balance my drinking
the healthier u feel the less you'll want to drink/smoke
try taking a jog, run like a mile or something, after u're finished jogging the last thing on ur mind will be drinking, try to think about it and u'll probably puke
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Anonymous #4
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That'd actuallly really bad advice. I mean it worked for you, but personally when I was in my best shape I was an alcoholic. 
I hate to say this, but if you drink a couple of beers sometimes, it makes your work-out easier. - Hulk Hogan
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Anonymous #3
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then u probably weren;t in ur best shape if u were still an alcoholic
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Anonymous #5
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If you are drinking heavily "Just stopping" is very dangerous. It can induce full blown grand maul seizures, as well as extreme dehydration and mental anguish like you couldn't believe. It's unsafe.
Continuing to drink like you do is neurotoxic to the point if you continue you will have wet brain, a red and puffy face, and be a bitter asshole with a colostomy bag in no time.....I mean hey you could get lucky and die in a crash before all that happens.
There are times and places for small doses of benzos, and extreme alcoholism is one of them. Don't take this shit lightly. Make a plan and stick to it, write it all down. If you can bear aa and na meetings do it, they help it you let them help. Stay outta bars. Avoid the stores that sell the booze you like. Start playing music. Get anything and everything you can to keep yourself busy, and if you get overwhelmed get that .5 mg of kpins or xanax and prevent a seizure.
It's hard as fuck because it's so accepted by the masses, and it's everywhere, but I did it. You can too.
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Anonymous #4
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Anonymous #3 said: then u probably weren;t in ur best shape if u were still an alcoholic 
You've obviously never been an alcoholic.
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Anonymous #6
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Man the fuck up and quit. Quit being a pussy. Yeah it hurts. Yeah it sucks. But if you don't have the strength to put a stop to it, maybe you deserve whatever you get. In case you haven't notice, this world has no place for the weak. Truth. They die. Others have done it, why can't you? You looking for someone to baby you, and tell you its ok? It ain't. Quit being such a user and start weening yourself down. Otherwise, well, prepare to die. It won't be long. Liver failure is a real thing bruh. Get ready for some suffering. You got yourself into this, you're the only one who's gonna get you out.
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Anonymous #1
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If you had bothered to actually read the post you'd already know why I don't want to completely quit. Quitting sucks and I've done it before, I had intended to do it again then realized I wasn't really ever going to be sleeping again without it.
This thread isn't about me quitting, it's about figuring out why I could cut it down to as low as 3 beers (and stay that way for an extended period of time) a night before but suddenly can't.
If I just wanted to quit, I wouldn't of needed to make a thread on it because all you ever get is generic "just do it" or "go to aa" shit anyways. Heard it all before. Don't need to hear it again.
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Anonymous #7
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I was a pretty bad alcoholic. At least one bottle of whisky a day and whatever other drugs/alcohol I could cram in my maw. There's a few years of my life that I don't remember, tbh. Now, I don't really drink much at all. I can control my drinking, but I still fuck up sometimes and go overboard.
One day, after half a bottle of cognac, a handful of pills, and a joint, I had a talk with myself in the mirror. That's a rough thing to do, man. Real talk. After that talk, I was able to cut down, but it wasn't easy. I fucked up real bad the first few weeks.
Whatever decision you make, OP, just don't be hard on yourself if you want to cut down, can't, and fuck up. Be patient with yourself. Getting your drinking under control isn't going to happen overnight, in a week, and maybe not even a year.
I wish you all the luck in the world in getting to where you want to be.
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Anonymous #6
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Anonymous #1 said: If you had bothered to actually read the post you'd already know why I don't want to completely quit. Quitting sucks and I've done it before, I had intended to do it again then realized I wasn't really ever going to be sleeping again without it.
This thread isn't about me quitting, it's about figuring out why I could cut it down to as low as 3 beers (and stay that way for an extended period of time) a night before but suddenly can't.
If I just wanted to quit, I wouldn't of needed to make a thread on it because all you ever get is generic "just do it" or "go to aa" shit anyways. Heard it all before. Don't need to hear it again.
I understand, you're too weak, and too weak minded. The yawning grave awaits.
Also, being told to man the fuck up, isn't some kind of copout. Its you being told to man the fuck up and handle your business. You sound like a pussy in the extreme, coming on here with that "don't tell me to quit" bullshit. Go fuck yourself. Drown in your poison. See if they have any casket sales.
Or...
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Anonymous #1
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Re: How to control my drinking? [Re: Anonymous #6] 1
#22332983 - 10/04/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you for that wonderful contribution. You must have really great self esteem if you need to come into an anonymous post to call someone a pussy and what not. 
I said in the beginning I wasn't interested in hearing that shit. If you don't have want to answer my question, then ignore the thread. Not a hard concept.
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Anonymous #6
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Anonymous #1 said: Thank you for that wonderful contribution. You must have really great self esteem if you need to come into an anonymous post to call someone a pussy and what not.
I said in the beginning I wasn't interested in hearing that shit. If you don't have want to answer my question, then ignore the thread. Not a hard concept.
Its an anonymous forum, what did you expect? Names to be displayed?
If you don't expect someone to tell it to you like it is, then don't come asking for advice. If you've got sleep problems, there are other ways to deal besides guzzling alcohol in a desperate attempt to become the town drunk. My mom is a nurse. She says the reality never hits you full retards, until you're lying in the hospital dying. You do know there comes a point when its too late, right? There is a point of no return, a cascading effect. I have no sympathy for you, if you're too stupid to stop poisoning yourself to death. The world has no place for weak, or stupid. Man the fuck up.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: How to control my drinking? [Re: Anonymous #6] 1
#22333074 - 10/04/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Blah blah blah.
I didn't ask for your sympathy and I specifically said I didn't need to hear that shit, not what the post is about not what I'm asking. You don't know a single thing about me, like the fact that I'm a life long severe sufferer of insomnia have tried every natural cure in the book, have spent over a grand on doctors visits trying all the different meds available or how I've already stated I don't even need to guzzle alcohol, I don't even need to drink enough to catch a buzz. I need a little bit to potentiate my medication and make it effective because literally nothing else is.
You didn't bother to read any of it, you just have to come in here calling me a pussy and telling me to man up to feel better about your own self.
You're not telling me like it is, because you don't even know what it is. You probably only read the title and came up with your marvelous replies.
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Anonymous #8
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Get that shit Asante was recently talking about in the pub or some other, I think he has a write up report of it in his journal. It's 10x more potent than alcohol and some stupid LD50 crap whatever, point I'm making is that if you wanna drink that shit like an alcoholic every night binge drinker you'll get yourself killed within the first week, and it may lead you to realise it's in your own head and your own decisions as a grown ass man. Sounds to me like the path where you put on your big boy pants and realise it really does begin and end with you, in your brain, with your decisions, and if you can't get a grip on them then you'll just be living with the consequences.
What sort of replies are you really expecting? It's gonna come down to pure will power
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Anonymous #6
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Anonymous #1 said:You're not telling me like it is, because you don't even know what it is. You probably only read the title and came up with your marvelous replies.
Really? "I'm an alcoholic" doesn't leave much room for interpretation bruh. Guess it doesn't matter, I'm talking to a dead man.
Oh you want another substance to use to get you out of your current weakling ass substance abuse? Magic mushrooms. Do 6 grams. They'll beat it into your booze soaked brain better than I ever could.
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Anonymous #1
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Anonymous #8 said: What sort of replies are you really expecting? It's gonna come down to pure will power
Like I said, I was posting in hopes that I might get some answer to the question, no matter how unlikely. The question is just very literally "What would cause me to be unable to control my drinking, when I had done it before". Because I don't understand why I would be struggling to do what I already did (and relatively easily). It makes no sense to me. Was hoping maybe somebody had been in this situation before and might've figured out what was going on.
I'm not interested in quitting drinking, that's pretty easy to do. You just don't buy alcohol. I made the choice to not stop, because then I won't be sleeping. I'll be right back to my full blown insomnia and getting less sleep every week than the average person gets in 1-2 days. It won't just get better with time after I quit alcohol, because it is not caused by alcohol. I've dealt with insomnia since way before I ever started drinking. I've become so used to regularly sleeping that when I decided to quit I had forgotten it would mean not sleeping, and that is unacceptable to me.
Anyways, I haven't drank more than 6 a night since I started this thread so maybe I'm finally getting it under control and will be able to step down further in the near future.
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Anonymous #9
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Your question is fucking retarded.
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"What would cause me to be unable to control my drinking, when I had done it before". Because I don't understand why I would be struggling to do what I already did (and relatively easily). It makes no sense to me.
And the answer is,
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I'm an alcoholic.
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Anonymous #1
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If the answer to why I can't control it now were "I'm an alcoholic" then I wouldn't have been able to control it the first time. Which I did, for months before quitting. I didn't even go back to it because I couldn't take not getting drunk. I made a conscious decision to do it for other reasons. It just didn't go as planned for whatever reason.
If people don't want to answer the question, why even come in here? You must have some shitty lives if you are so compelled to berate me over this shit. You don't know me, you have no emotional attachment to me, you have no reason to be angry and hostile with me for not quitting.
The only explanation is you hate yourselves or have some kind of self esteem issue and need to talk shit to feel better about your own problems.
It's simple, answer the question or just move along. You're not going to succeed in making me feel bad about myself, or going "You know what you're right, I'll just stop." You're 100% wasting your time. But by all means, go ahead and keep talking down to me so you can feel better about your own personal issues.
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