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Felonies are killing me
    #22312877 - 09/30/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've been out of jail almost 3 years now and I can't find a job to support myself. My gf and I split the bills but I want to earn at a legit job. Can anyone think of a decent job where my felonies wouldn't matter? Help me Shroomery community, you're my only hope


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: phishphan2088]
    #22312934 - 09/30/15 08:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

construction or landscaping


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: filthyknees]
    #22313605 - 09/30/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone know anyone with a construction or landscaping business in southern wv


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: phishphan2088] * 2
    #22314461 - 09/30/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: Confucian] * 2
    #22314595 - 09/30/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Manufacturing.... worked for me. Oh and lie on your app. Can't hurt, I lied on mine to get in the door and then worked my ass off to get the position I'm in now!. My motto is if you really want to work there's a job for you somewhere


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: phishphan2088]
    #22321300 - 10/01/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Time to specialize in something that you can eventually work for yourself or do contract work.


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: phishphan2088]
    #22322286 - 10/02/15 06:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Learn a trade.  Get a job with a plumbing shop or electrical shop.  After you work for a bit you can find out how to get get in an apprenticeship.  Learn to fix and build everything by yourself and you can become completely self sufficient.  Plumbing or electrical are my suggestion.  I would say to look in to welding, but it sounds like you are having a hard time. I don't see many welding companies hiring on noobies to teach them to weld.  You'd probably have to go to school or call around and ask if you could help for free in exchange for learning how to weld.  Landscaping isn't bad but it's kind of a dead end.  If you go at it on your own and start your own company it can be good, especially if you are somewhere with a lot of new construction. That said, it's hard to start a landscaping company with landscaping wages.  You'd be better off doing something like finding a tree removal service.  You can make a lot more with a chainsaw than you can a lawn mower.  I am a firm believer of working with your hands though regardless.

Carpentry is another cool one but if you want to get paid for it you gotta be fucking good...I'm talking very high end carpentry work.  Otherwise you won't top out very high, especially for basic framing stuff.  I'm not sure how furniture workers do.  Plumbing and electrical are better options for you in my opinion.  I am not a felon and I work with my hands and do pretty well for myself.  The felonies don't sound like they are going away so I'd advise you to adapt.  Remove yourself from the incompetent crowd and become competent.  It's hard work but if you want it you can get it.  You have the possibility to go all the way and start your own company and build it.  Trades are great.

Another route is restaurants if you are in to that sort of thing.  I'd personally rather be homeless and go live in the woods somewhere than work at a restaurant.  I've never had a job in a restaurant and I never will.  I'd rather dig ditches than deal with letting people treat me the way restaurant workers get treated.  Back of house sounds like it could be decent if you like cooking.  I have a felon friend who is a chef and does pretty well.  I'd estimate he makes around 60k a year from what I've heard from him.  The best of the best can do better.  I just think there is too much competition and the restaurant business is all fucked.

The best possible thing you could do is pull out a phone book, go to the yellow pages, and start calling plumbing companies and ask if they need help. You tell them you have no experience and are looking for work.  You tell them you'll show up on time, work your ass off, and have a good attitude...then you actually do that.  There isn't a huge stream of people lining up to be plumbers, because people are fucking stupid.  Going straight out of high school in to a union plumbing apprenticeship is so much smarter than taking on debt to learn something that means nothing to the economy.  The economy gives zero shits what you know, it only cares about what you can produce.  I make way more than some of my friends that got degrees.  Get your hands dirty and work for something and you can come out on top.

Another option my high ass just thought of is going the mechanic route.  Skilled mechanics can do pretty well.

Regardless, you got a felony.  If financial stability is what you seek you need to first make some money.  The way to do that as a felon is by going in to the trades.  Like I said, I'm not a felon but I love my job.  I could still do decent as a felon.  Come up with a game plan.

My plan would go something like this. Get Job>Learn trade>Save money>buy a couple acres of cheap wv land in the country with next to no covenants>Buy a used RV and live in it>Get rainwater collection system and solar panel>grow lots of veggies and raise chickens>Keep doing trade work day in day out and save TONS of money having next to no overhead>build a reasonable affordable house>retire>die

I personally am somewhere in the middle of manifesting a plan like that.

Good luck OP.  Don't make excuses and have a good attitude and never give up.


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: Big Bear] * 2
    #22331673 - 10/04/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Learn a trade.  Get a job with a plumbing shop or electrical shop.  After you work for a bit you can find out how to get get in an apprenticeship.  Learn to fix and build everything by yourself and you can become completely self sufficient.  Plumbing or electrical are my suggestion.  I would say to look in to welding, but it sounds like you are having a hard time. I don't see many welding companies hiring on noobies to teach them to weld.  You'd probably have to go to school or call around and ask if you could help for free in exchange for learning how to weld.  Landscaping isn't bad but it's kind of a dead end.  If you go at it on your own and start your own company it can be good, especially if you are somewhere with a lot of new construction. That said, it's hard to start a landscaping company with landscaping wages.  You'd be better off doing something like finding a tree removal service.  You can make a lot more with a chainsaw than you can a lawn mower.  I am a firm believer of working with your hands though regardless.

Carpentry is another cool one but if you want to get paid for it you gotta be fucking good...I'm talking very high end carpentry work.  Otherwise you won't top out very high, especially for basic framing stuff.  I'm not sure how furniture workers do.  Plumbing and electrical are better options for you in my opinion.  I am not a felon and I work with my hands and do pretty well for myself.  The felonies don't sound like they are going away so I'd advise you to adapt.  Remove yourself from the incompetent crowd and become competent.  It's hard work but if you want it you can get it.  You have the possibility to go all the way and start your own company and build it.  Trades are great.

Another route is restaurants if you are in to that sort of thing.  I'd personally rather be homeless and go live in the woods somewhere than work at a restaurant.  I've never had a job in a restaurant and I never will.  I'd rather dig ditches than deal with letting people treat me the way restaurant workers get treated.  Back of house sounds like it could be decent if you like cooking.  I have a felon friend who is a chef and does pretty well.  I'd estimate he makes around 60k a year from what I've heard from him.  The best of the best can do better.  I just think there is too much competition and the restaurant business is all fucked.

The best possible thing you could do is pull out a phone book, go to the yellow pages, and start calling plumbing companies and ask if they need help. You tell them you have no experience and are looking for work.  You tell them you'll show up on time, work your ass off, and have a good attitude...then you actually do that.  There isn't a huge stream of people lining up to be plumbers, because people are fucking stupid.  Going straight out of high school in to a union plumbing apprenticeship is so much smarter than taking on debt to learn something that means nothing to the economy.  The economy gives zero shits what you know, it only cares about what you can produce.  I make way more than some of my friends that got degrees.  Get your hands dirty and work for something and you can come out on top.

Another option my high ass just thought of is going the mechanic route.  Skilled mechanics can do pretty well.

Regardless, you got a felony.  If financial stability is what you seek you need to first make some money.  The way to do that as a felon is by going in to the trades.  Like I said, I'm not a felon but I love my job.  I could still do decent as a felon.  Come up with a game plan.

My plan would go something like this. Get Job>Learn trade>Save money>buy a couple acres of cheap wv land in the country with next to no covenants>Buy a used RV and live in it>Get rainwater collection system and solar panel>grow lots of veggies and raise chickens>Keep doing trade work day in day out and save TONS of money having next to no overhead>build a reasonable affordable house>retire>die

I personally am somewhere in the middle of manifesting a plan like that.

Good luck OP.  Don't make excuses and have a good attitude and never give up.



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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: azur] * 1
    #22332558 - 10/04/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Very high but still coherent apparently :lol:

Just trying to be helpful


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: phishphan2088]
    #22332683 - 10/04/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Do temp jobs, eventually somebody will hire you on if your worth your weight


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: Mr. Hankey]
    #22379786 - 10/14/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks Big Bear. One of my best friends ever is a shroomery member and he speaks very highly of you. I currently work for a restaurant with a name so lame I'd be ashamed to type it. The owners abuse the staff and treat us poorly. I have worked there for over a year. I kill myself for these people and they won't give me a raise. Some days I'm scheduled to do two jobs. I could list all the bad things about this job but that's not going to change anything. Maybe I should stop trying to be a good boy and get back to the basics. I feel like no matter what I decide to pursue, I'll need to know my shit in order to offset my felonies.


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: phishphan2088]
    #22380398 - 10/14/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If you call a bunch of plumbing/electrical/hvac companies out of the yellow pages and say you have no experience but are hungry to work and to learn, you will get a job.  Then the only thing you have to do is show up and work your ass off.  Your pay will go up the more you learn, then you can eventually get another job with your skills and higher pay if they won't give you good enough raises.  Fuck restaurants though. You'll get shit as a grunt too but at least you won't have to deal with the degrading shit near as bad.

The only thing holding you back from that path is you.  All you gotta do is try.  Nobody cares if you have a felony when they are just using you for a strong back.  All they care about is what you can produce.


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: Big Bear]
    #22380858 - 10/14/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I couldn't pass a drug test to save my life right now but I could remedy that by abstaining for a few weeks. I feel like most skilled labor tests for drugs. Still, it wouldn't hurt for me to pick up a phone book and start dialing. Thanks Big Bear! Keep repping the Dead!


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: phishphan2088]
    #22381004 - 10/14/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You'd be surprised.  Lots of residential and stuff you don't have to pass one.  You'll never know until you try.  I've used fake piss for at least a half dozen jobs and never failed one.  Make the move.  Only person that can stop you is you.  If you're truly persistent, you'll find someone to use your back.  I promise.


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: Big Bear]
    #22381100 - 10/14/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

As one of the earlier posters mentioned you should look into construction especially if you have any construction skills or experience. But look for smaller businesses as almost none of them drug test at least in my area. A lot of people working for small or family owned construction businesses get high.. Many of them drink and get high on the job. You can even drive up to a residential construction site and see if they are hiring. My family does concrete work and we've given people on occasion a day to prove if they can do the work. They get paid at the end of the day and if it seems like it'll work out they get invited back.


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: phishphan2088]
    #22381135 - 10/14/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

employers who hire felons get tax breaks.  market yourself.


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: phishphan2088] * 1
    #22381149 - 10/14/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You should become a drug dealing, robbing pimp. Make money.
Or get off the internet and get to work. Excuses are a dime a dozen.


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: azur]
    #22381161 - 10/14/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

[admin edit: If you don't have something productive to say, please at least refrain from flaming other members]


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: sprinkles]
    #22381184 - 10/14/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why yes i am.
My point is excuses are a dime a dozen. You want something? Go get it. Period. Felonies don't mean shit. Can't have a gun and can't vote.  Woo hoo. There's nothing saying you can't get rich. Sure, it may present more obstacles, but the opportunity is still there.


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Re: Felonies are killing me [Re: azur]
    #22382248 - 10/15/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

azur said:
You should become a drug dealing, robbing pimp. Make money.
Or get off the internet and get to work. Excuses are a dime a dozen.



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