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How to meditate 24/7?
    #22295693 - 09/26/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://tinybuddha.com/blog/how-to-meditate-at-any-time-without-meditating/
I read this online:
"2. When in doubt, check your breathing.

If you feel your thoughts wandering from the present task, take a minute to hear and feel yourself breathe. Just paying attention to a few breaths will bring you back to the present moment.

3. You have 5 senses, use them.

Mindfulness means truly experiencing what is going on right now. This is more than just noticing what something looks like. What does it smell like? Feel it with your hands. What is the texture? Temperature? What do you hear?"

I also heard Ekhart Tolle say something along the lines of "If you simply pay attention to your breath througohout the day, it is worth more than any course can give you"

I was wondering how I would go about employing this? I currently meditate for maybe 20 minutes a day, sometimes up to an hour on an easier day. Throughout the day would this just consist of whenever my mind wanders, or I talk to myself, I just return back to my breath? Pay attention to it?

I don't really understand the statment regarding 5 senses


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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: topdog82]
    #22296085 - 09/26/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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topdog82 said:...Throughout the day would this just consist of whenever my mind wanders, or I talk to myself, I just return back to my breath? Pay attention to it?




Exactly! In my experience, the more you practice, you can catch yourself quicker when your mind begins to wander. I catch myself ALL day :lol:

For example, my friend told me he did this when he began tripping and going out in public. He would concentrate on his breath and this reduced the mental noise and anxiety while walking ina crowded mall or something.

And about the 5 senses, its just like the breath. Readily available. Something to watch :smile: kind of a deliberate distraction that keeps you in the moment rather than in your thoughts.

Just watch, enjoy the show!

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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #22296150 - 09/26/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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topdog82 said:...Throughout the day would this just consist of whenever my mind wanders, or I talk to myself, I just return back to my breath? Pay attention to it?




Exactly! In my experience, the more you practice, you can catch yourself quicker when your mind begins to wander. I catch myself ALL day :lol:

For example, my friend told me he did this when he began tripping and going out in public. He would concentrate on his breath and this reduced the mental noise and anxiety while walking ina crowded mall or something.

And about the 5 senses, its just like the breath. Readily available. Something to watch :smile: kind of a deliberate distraction that keeps you in the moment rather than in your thoughts.

Just watch, enjoy the show!

:psychsplit:



ahh.. I will try this. Sounds interesting


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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: topdog82]
    #22296434 - 09/26/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Very cool :cool:

I crack myself up man. My mind will be doing what it does, and i catch it, breath, return to base, ahhhhh.

Moments later something earthly will spark up the routine mental responses and the volume goes back up again. I laugh at my sillyness, breath, return to base, ahhhh.

"What a clown!" I say to myself :lol:


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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #22296496 - 09/26/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Very cool :cool:

I crack myself up man. My mind will be doing what it does, and i catch it, breath, return to base, ahhhhh.

Moments later something earthly will spark up the routine mental responses and the volume goes back up again. I laugh at my sillyness, breath, return to base, ahhhh.

"What a clown!" I say to myself :lol:



werd!

Its amazing how busy the mind gets over nothing. Crazy to think about. About 90% of thoughts are utterly pointless


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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: topdog82]
    #22296849 - 09/27/15 01:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

awareness is itself meditation. If you are aware, you are meditating. Another way of putting this is: What is it that you can't not do? That is meditation.


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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: champinhom]
    #22297524 - 09/27/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I pay attention to the senses coming from one ear sounds etc... then move that awareness to my other ear and then out of the body and try to project that awareness in front of me maybe looking back at me realizing everything is awareness ---on my lunch break usually haha, but try to do this in a mild manner through out work day ---I have to be careful I am a meat cutter. Just learned this practice to work on meditation open eyed and not just sitting down with a regular meditation, so as to make these practices a part of every day life. 
  My regular meditations are great too but it seems afterward everyday life quickly crumples up the profound feelings of awareness I get in a normal meditation which sucks, I heard that your mind is like a wild monkey that needs to be trained --not so easy for us with work school etc without a lot of practice, some people make these states sound so easy to fall into I disagree.


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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: champinhom]
    #22297527 - 09/27/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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awareness is itself meditation. If you are aware, you are meditating. Another way of putting this is: What is it that you can't not do? That is meditation.



:thumbup:

little bit of a mindfuck there... but i got you


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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: topdog82]
    #22302906 - 09/28/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yoga is a good form of meditation, while many are drawn by the physical benefits the cognitive benefits are equally great.

Maybe you should take several dosages of shrooms/lsd etc over a period of a month dedicated to focusing on your being using breathing exercises to center the mind. Humans attach their self to varies concepts constantly decorating their "I am" with "I am this or that" however your job is to camp out prior to the conceptualization of your I'amness. In a silent recognition focus your meditations on existence itself. Basically takes 8 weeks to form the necessary changes in your neural network in whatever new habit or activity, psychedelics and other drugs like alcohol increases the brain's neuroplasicity therefor decreasing time needed to assimilate and adapt to new environments, mindsets, behaviors etc although still not at the speed of a childs neuroplasicity.

Besides recommending formal training (at least 3 days in beginner meditation before you start tripping with the intent to meditate) I recommend you just be aware of your beingness and train yourself to occupy this stateless state to literally physically alter your neural biology which is the underlining reason men have even fathomed 24/7 sustained attention to the absence of the minds processes and eventually even the bodies processes (just a few weeks reduces your brains registration of pain increasing your threshold for emotional, psychological & physical pain with increased production in oxytocin, dopamine, serotonin and endorphins).

Main problem is you'd have a better chance meditating 24/7 if you've actually done intensive training since being a young child to really influence the formation and structure of the brain to reflect more than an evolutionary novel but a sort of pinnacle of human evolution.

From what I've read when you choose to think it will require effort roughly proportional to you trying not to think right now but your thoughts will be of genius capacity.

“There is a state beyond consciousness, which is not unconscious. Some call it super-consciousness, or pure consciousness, or supreme consciousness. It is pure Awareness free from the subject-object nexus…. Consciousness is intermittent, full of gaps [e.g., dreamless sleep, trance]. Yet there is the continuity of identity. What is this sense of identity due to, if not to something [the Absolute Reality or Awareness] beyond consciousness?

^^You are already the supreme absolute reality. You are already that, the seeker must look within with a deeply introverted mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samadhi

http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/Nisargadatta_for_therapists.html


Majjhima Nikaya 26:34-42, Ariyapariyesana Sutta, "The Noble Search", gives the following description of the four rupa jhanas ("form jhanas"), the four arupha jhanas ("formless jhanas"), and nirodha-samapatti, the cessation of perception and feeling:[web 5][note 3]

First jhana

"Suppose that a wild deer is living in a wilderness glen. Carefree it walks, carefree it stands, carefree it sits, carefree it lies down. Why is that? Because it has gone beyond the hunter's range.[note 4] In the same way, a monk — quite withdrawn from sensual pleasures, withdrawn from unskillful qualities — enters & remains in the first jhana: rapture & pleasure born from withdrawal, accompanied by directed thought & evaluation. This monk is said to have blinded Mara. Trackless, he has destroyed Mara's vision and has become invisible to the Evil One.

Second jhana

"Then again the monk, with the stilling of directed thoughts & evaluations, enters & remains in the second jhana: rapture & pleasure born of composure, unification of awareness free from directed thought & evaluation — internal assurance. This monk is said to have blinded Mara. Trackless, he has destroyed Mara's vision and has become invisible to the Evil One.

Third jhana

"Then again the monk, with the fading of rapture, he remains equanimous, mindful, & alert, and senses pleasure with the body. He enters & remains in the third jhana, of which the Noble Ones declare, 'Equanimous & mindful, he has a pleasant abiding.' This monk is said to have blinded Mara. Trackless, he has destroyed Mara's vision and has become invisible to the Evil One.

Fourth jhana

"Then again the monk, with the abandoning of pleasure & stress — as with the earlier disappearance of elation & distress — enters & remains in the fourth jhana: purity of equanimity & mindfulness, neither-pleasure-nor-pain. This monk is said to have blinded Mara. Trackless, he has destroyed Mara's vision and has become invisible to the Evil One.

The infinitude of space

"Then again the monk, with the complete transcending of perceptions of [physical] form, with the disappearance of perceptions of resistance, and not heeding perceptions of diversity, [perceiving,] 'Infinite space,' enters & remains in the dimension of the infinitude of space. This monk is said to have blinded Mara. Trackless, he has destroyed Mara's vision and has become invisible to the Evil One.

The infinitude of consciousness

"Then again the monk, with the complete transcending of the dimension of the infinitude of space, [perceiving,] 'Infinite consciousness,' enters & remains in the dimension of the infinitude of consciousness. This monk is said to have blinded Mara. Trackless, he has destroyed Mara's vision and has become invisible to the Evil One.

The dimension of nothingness

"Then again the monk, with the complete transcending of the dimension of the infinitude of consciousness, [perceiving,] 'There is nothing,' enters & remains in the dimension of nothingness. This monk is said to have blinded Mara. Trackless, he has destroyed Mara's vision and has become invisible to the Evil One.

The dimension of neither perception nor non-perception

"Then again the monk, with the complete transcending of the dimension of nothingness, enters & remains in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception. This monk is said to have blinded Mara. Trackless, he has destroyed Mara's vision and has become invisible to the Evil One.

The cessation of perception & feeling

"Then again the monk, with the complete transcending of the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception, enters & remains in the cessation of perception & feeling. And, having seen [that] with discernment, his mental fermentations are completely ended. This monk is said to have blinded Mara. Trackless, he has destroyed Mara's vision and has become invisible to the Evil One. Having crossed over, he is unattached in the world. Carefree he walks, carefree he stands, carefree he sits, carefree he lies down. Why is that? Because he has gone beyond the Evil One's range."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_%28demon%29


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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: cosmicbeing]
    #22304990 - 09/28/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Aww, post #1! Congratulations man! :cheers:

Namasté and Tat Twam Asi. :wink:


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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: topdog82]
    #22306518 - 09/29/15 04:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Man, i was just driving to work listening to a Ram Dass lecture, "A Spiritual Journey", and around the 14 minute mark of Part 2, he's speaking of this very topic!

On the 16 minute mark he talks about how when you get distracted, you can bring awareness back to the breath and are soon brought back to the place of meditation.

He goes on to talk about silently witnessing (awareness)  with your ears, eyes, smells, etc

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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #22307518 - 09/29/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Universaleyeni said:
Man, i was just driving to work listening to a Ram Dass lecture, "A Spiritual Journey", and around the 14 minute mark of Part 2, he's speaking of this very topic!

On the 16 minute mark he talks about how when you get distracted, you can bring awareness back to the breath and are soon brought back to the place of meditation.

He goes on to talk about silently witnessing (awareness)  with your ears, eyes, smells, etc

:cool:



will do!


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Re: How to meditate 24/7? [Re: topdog82]
    #22310178 - 09/29/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I, along my journey into meditation, have stumbled upon some awesome things that've helped me ever since.
Meditation is intentional.
Therefore, I define my intentions.
I initiate my meditations by focusing on the in/out breath, and use that function to ground me.
You are already doing pretty darn good, if you ask me.
I once believed that the goal of meditation was to stop thinking. Bliss out. Find peace.
Alternatively, what I have discovered is that the thoughts NEVER stop.  Moreover, when I TRIED to stop them, they multiplied AND magnified!
J
Anyways, I read a book. Think it was Deepak Chopra's "Life After Death". In it, if that's the right one, asked,
  "How could the deep sea fish  know that the ocean is wet, when it's never experienced non-wetness?"
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