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DaHamentashenkid
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Mini monotub issues
#22308619 - 09/29/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey everyone, I've been lurking for a while and I've successfully grown out four mini monotubs over the last few months. My issue is that, no matter how tightly I stuff the bottom holes, I never have the condensation on the walls that I've seen in a lot of posts. It hasn't been an issue but I'm wondering why that might be. My biggest issue is that my tubs never pin on the top of the sub. The first few tubs I only taped the outside of the tub which I've learned won't prevent side or bottom pinning. With my last two I lined them with plastic but they're still only pinning on the sides near where the liner meets the edge of the sub. How can I get the top to pin? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Inocuole
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It pins from there because that's where the conditions are best, which means your probably have your tubs dialed in poorly.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777#17332777
You've read over that? The condensation comes from a temperature difference between the inside and outside of the tub. Are you misting? Maybe you should try a light casing layer over the top to help promote a good pinning surface, with your next tub.
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DaHamentashenkid
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Re: Mini monotub issues [Re: Inocuole]
#22308779 - 09/29/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's exactly the tek I've used on all of them. I'm aware as to why it's happening but this does nothing to explain how to fix the issue. I'm not misting bc a majority of everything I've read and everything people have commented on the subject say to not mist a monotub.
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DaHamentashenkid said: I'm not misting bc a majority of everything I've read and everything people have commented on the subject say to not mist a monotub.
This is true, a monotub should be virtually set and forget. But, you should always make sure the surface has small beads of moisture, so evaporation can take place over time, thus aiding in producing a stronger pinset. A little misting never hurt anything, just don't spray the surface directly. Mist above the tub and let it fall gently on the surface.
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I don't really see any detriment from just spraying down into the tub.
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Re: Mini monotub issues [Re: Inocuole]
#22308841 - 09/29/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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was your substrate at field capacity when you spawned to it, or did you not even check and just hoped that some ratio you used was dead on for you too.
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Inocuole
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That would be a huge factor, yeah.
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Re: Mini monotub issues [Re: Inocuole]
#22308851 - 09/29/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So maybe one of you can help me with the dialing in? The bottom holes are always stuffed tightly and I barely stuff the top holes. I even pull the top Polyfil if it seems to be causing lack of fae. What else can I do to get it set right? As far as I can tell I'm following everything correctly.
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DaHamentashenkid
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bodhisatta said: was your substrate at field capacity when you spawned to it, or did you not even check and just hoped that some ratio you used was dead on for you too.
I've followed every tek for every piece of the grow exactly as they're written.
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Inocuole
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Well minis are a little harder to dial in. How many bottoms holes do you have? 2 or 4? One on each side is plenty for a mini, and they usually need to be stuffed real tight. I don't know if you're rolling it up into a ball first but I just keep grabbing more and doing the ball-rolling motion and it gets pretty damn dense. Having the top holes completely without polyfill will prevent condensation from forming for the most part, and will dry out the tub if the holes are too big.
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Re: Mini monotub issues [Re: Inocuole]
#22308889 - 09/29/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Four 1" holes on the sides, 2 on each at sub level and 2 1" holes at the top, one on each end. I have the bottom holes stuffed very tightly.
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bodhisatta said: was your substrate at field capacity when you spawned to it, or did you not even check and just hoped that some ratio you used was dead on for you too.
I've followed every tek for every piece of the grow exactly as they're written.
you still have to make sure the ratio of the water to substrate that the writer of the TEK used is the same ratio for you to use. some people find they need more or less water to achieve field capacity.
you can say your bottoms are tight and tops are loose all you want but tight and loose are subjective and we have no idea if you're doing it right. you'll really just have to play with it and get a feel for it via experience. also pictures are worth 10,000 words
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Re: Mini monotub issues [Re: Inocuole]
#22308911 - 09/29/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Got any pics OP??
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Here's a good thread with a lot of mini-mono designs. Casings seem to help a lot.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21032606
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DaHamentashenkid
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I'm still trying to figure out how to post photos from android. One I figure that out I can post some.
My sub is field capacity, a few drops when squeezed lightly in the hand and nothing when pressure is released.
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Inocuole
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A few drops is not enough. You want a thin stream.
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bodhisatta 
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when you go to upload choose documents not camera or take a picture. when you click documents you can go to your pictures folder. there's only about 3 different things you can even do and all but one of those ways is wrong so you should just figure it out by trial and error in 2 minutes
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Dont put so much thought into constantly having condensation on the walls. That only happens because of temp difference from what I've read and its completely normal for it to dissipate. Focus on the moisture content of the sub itself.
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Re: Mini monotub issues [Re: Inocuole]
#22308948 - 09/29/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: A few drops is not enough. You want a thin stream.
I suppose the amount of pressure applied could be subjective also then yeah?
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DaHamentashenkid said: I'm still trying to figure out how to post photos from android. One I figure that out I can post some.
My sub is field capacity, a few drops when squeezed lightly in the hand and nothing when pressure is released.
The sub should be squeezed tightly with a stream of water rolling down your hand. Once it comes to a halt and only a couple of drops are falling down, then it's at proper field capacity. Water should be pooled up lightly around the knuckles and thumb. RR demonstrates this in one of his brf tek videos, can't seem to remember which one tho. I'm sure someone has the link to it.
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