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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: PussyFart]
    #22312477 - 09/30/15 05:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: Yerow]
    #22312760 - 09/30/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

just shut up
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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: blackdust]
    #22313658 - 09/30/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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just shut up
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You shut up, stop trying to stifle progress everywhere.  You just pop up in threads and say things like "idiots.." and shit like this.  You're not contributing, you're just asking people to stop trying to prove each other wrong which is the entire foundation of the information we have here.


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: Inocuole]
    #22313798 - 09/30/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Pf is right. I am wrong. Don't use the magic mushroom growers guide.


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: PussyFart]
    #22313908 - 09/30/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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And an even bigger flush if spawned to bulk.....




y. straw is cheap, and works well

i did get some looks though coming home with a bale of straw downtown in the city



:facepalm: straw is considered a bulk substrate, not a casing material....and I never said anything about straw....

You said adding a casing layer would yield more, then I said "and spawning to bulk would yield even more"so what's the issue?




Wow. Sometimes I just don't get people :|

Didn't you see the quote? Who said anything about casing there?

I was agreeing with you and I was talking about bulk substrate.

I bolded it so it stands out this time :V

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Why would we use restrictive filters for fruiting, when fruiting requires butt loads of fresh air?

We use these filters specifically because of their ability to block most fresh air, so whatever substrate we have in out jars/bags stays sterile.




oiy

No, it does not block any kind of air.

Let me try this again :V

Air is a gas. The molecules in a gas can go through the filter.

Unless you are saying it needs dust and spores there really isn't a difference.

They aren't made to block gas, they are made to block anything bigger than .2um (like, not gas).

If you think it is restrictive, then why?

I'm just curious because if it was you'd think they would put bigger filters on them.

It wouldn't be that difficult to test out though.

Just throw a CO2 meter in a colonized bag that won't likely contaminate and seal it.

I have never noticed any CO2 buildup in them, however.


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: micro]
    #22313911 - 09/30/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You really don't understand the difference in air flow between a GE filter and the usual means of providing FAE?


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: micro]
    #22313933 - 09/30/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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And an even bigger flush if spawned to bulk.....




y. straw is cheap, and works well

i did get some looks though coming home with a bale of straw downtown in the city



:facepalm: straw is considered a bulk substrate, not a casing material....and I never said anything about straw....

You said adding a casing layer would yield more, then I said "and spawning to bulk would yield even more"so what's the issue?




Wow. Sometimes I just don't get people :|

Didn't you see the quote? Who said anything about casing there?

I was agreeing with you and I was talking about bulk substrate.

I bolded it so it stands out this time :V



See the letter "Y" in the beginning of your sentence?

Made me think you were asking a question...my bad.


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: tahoe]
    #22313969 - 09/30/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

the only information anyone needs in this thread is to grow
everybody else can use the search function
look for a tek with pictures of the kind of shrooms you shall want

i can help....

RogerRabbits Rye tek
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RR's PF tek
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek


Damion5050's Elementary Coir Tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: blackdust]
    #22313975 - 09/30/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:ohyou:


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: blackdust]
    #22313984 - 09/30/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Check it out i can find the most versatile tek to help you grow!

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22144051


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: Inocuole]
    #22314160 - 09/30/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You really don't understand the difference in air flow between a GE filter and the usual means of providing FAE?




Why don't you explain it to me? :V

The only difference I could see is the volume of gas exchanged

I only have empirical evidence to go by regarding that.


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: micro]
    #22314169 - 09/30/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You really don't understand the difference in air flow between a GE filter and the usual means of providing FAE?




Why don't you explain it to me? :V

The only difference I could see is the volume of gas exchanged






Sounds like you beat me to it.  The volume of gas exchanged is the primary difference, aside from filtration, between FAE and GE.

With GE it's like "If I squeeze the bag will air escape cleanly through the filter, and in reverse?" and with FAE it's more like "Am I actually having completely new air in this chamber from hour to hour, nevermind it being clean?"

One low-micron filter such as the ones on filter patch bags can let air pass through, but think about how much harder it is to get it to pass, you probably do have to squeeze the bag.  If a SGFC were a bag, and you squeezed it, it wouldn't even offer any resistance, it would just give way to the air.


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: Mad Season]
    #22314194 - 09/30/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Check it out i can find the most versatile tek to help you grow!

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22144051




lol, nice


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: Inocuole]
    #22314203 - 09/30/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Sounds like you beat me to it.  The volume of gas exchanged is the primary difference, aside from filtration, between FAE and GE.

With GE it's like "If I squeeze the bag will air escape cleanly through the filter, and in reverse?" and with FAE it's more like "Am I actually having completely new air in this chamber from hour to hour, nevermind it being clean?"

One low-micron filter such as the ones on filter patch bags can let air pass through, but think about how much harder it is to get it to pass, you probably do have to squeeze the bag.  If a SGFC were a bag, and you squeezed it, it wouldn't even offer any resistance, it would just give way to the air.




aside from filtration ???

well, never mind that, once i get started again maybe i can do both and test it

co2 reading should be enough

i'm not sure what kind of mushrooms i'm gonna grow though; probably morels pr something


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: micro]
    #22314206 - 09/30/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well you could argue that if the volume exchanged were enough, it wouldn't matter whether it was filtered and you could still call it FAE.  Though maybe that should be coined FFAE, to denote the fact it's filtered.

You're gonna... grow morels?  :popcorn:


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: Inocuole]
    #22314213 - 09/30/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, I've wanted to for a while

two ways i'm gonna try fruiting them, all indoors


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: micro]
    #22314221 - 09/30/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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yeah, I've wanted to for a while

two ways i'm gonna try fruiting them, all indoors



Gonna need enough for everybody.  :popcorn:



Seriously though, I'm actually interested, in case you thought I was mocking you or something.  I'm kinda high so it might come off that way.


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: Inocuole]
    #22314226 - 09/30/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

^^^thanks innoc... I was running low.


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22314292 - 09/30/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

/facepalm. once again innoc and his merry band of goons


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Re: I WANNA GROW FUNGUS AMUNGUS! [Re: Dionili]
    #22314321 - 09/30/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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/facepalm. once again innoc and his merry band of goons




Coming from the person who criticizes me for having nothing positive to say, that's quite the gem.  What's wrong with being really interested in someone attempting cultivating morels indoors?  Have you ever grown morels indoors?  I disagree with that guy tons but I'm much more interested in what he has to say than things like this.  Why reduce others to goons, is your view so shallow of how a community actually functions?


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