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Jaffa4144
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Sumatriptan / DMT - Bad trip
#22306545 - 09/29/15 04:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do we have any budding chemists here that can tell me what interactions Sumatriptan has with DMT?
I've done DMT probably 30+ times, I've had all kinds of trips but never one like I had the other night.
I loaded up the vape with 50mg, took my first big toke, felt it starting to hit me straight away as normal. Took my second toke, arms started to go loose, started to loose my faculties and co-ordination, normally I can manage a third before I have to put the vape down but on this occasion I couldn't.
I laid down, shut my eyes and got the usual attack of amazing colours and shapes, it came on strong and I went deeper and deeper. I was with a friend who said it was all of maybe 2 or 3 minutes before my eyes were open and I started talking.
I remember opening my eyes and looking around the room. I was fully aware of my surroundings, everything was black and white and really contrasty, I couldn't make out details but apart from that I felt like I was pretty normal and was in control, I even sat up and looked around. I asked my friend if I was still alive, I started to panic thinking that I had overdone it and died. I wasn't sure if this was real or just a projection of reality that I was creating. Everything resonated but I didn't have the usual cloudy/muggy feeling that I have on DMT. I honestly felt completely in control apart from the visuals that I was seeing, my thoughts were clear and not scattered like they usually are.
I panicked more now, convinced that I had overdone it. I was dead, this was it, I was just a conciousness now, just a ball of energy. Everything around me was just my own projection, I had to get away, but I couldn't move my body anymore. I couldn't feel myself breathing, I couldn't feel my heart pumping. I was dead. I closed my eyes but didn't feel any DMT-like effects.
I started to come back after a good 10-15 minutes but spent the whole night convinced that I had passed on and was living in a false reality. If somebody unplugged me from the Matrix at that point I wouldn't have been surprised at all.
TL;DR - Had a really really strange, bizarre trip that was very unlike the normal DMT trip. I suffer migraines and had taken Sumatriptan a few hours earlier. It's the only thing I can think of that any different to usual...
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Jaffa4144
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Re: Sumatriptan / DMT - Bad trip [Re: Jaffa4144]
#22306588 - 09/29/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just to elaborate; I've done a quick search around online prior to posting here. Sumatriptan is a synthetic analog of DMT, I only found this out after the above happened when trying to find out what caused this crazy experience. Sumatriptan is a common anti-migraine drug so somebody out there must have had them together also. I'm also on Propranolol but never had any interactions with that, if anything that helps cut out any anxiety before or during the trip.
I'm curious as to what the interactions are and why the two combined to make this happen. Did the Sumatriptan intensify the DMT or did it reduce the effects?
It was a really bizzare feeling that I'm just not able to fully describe with mere words. I felt normal, but not normal at the same time. I had control of my body but couldn't feel myself breathing or my heart pumping. I managed to sit up and look around with no problem at all.
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Re: Sumatriptan / DMT - Bad trip [Re: Jaffa4144]
#22308824 - 09/29/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jaffa4144 said: .....I panicked more now, convinced that I had overdone it. I was dead, this was it, I was just a conciousness now, just a ball of energy. Everything around me was just my own projection, I had to get away, but I couldn't move my body anymore. I couldn't feel myself breathing, I couldn't feel my heart pumping. I was dead. I closed my eyes but didn't feel any DMT-like effects.
I started to come back after a good 10-15 minutes but spent the whole night convinced that I had passed on and was living in a false reality. If somebody unplugged me from the Matrix at that point I wouldn't have been surprised at all.
TL;DR - Had a really really strange, bizarre trip that was very unlike the normal DMT trip. I suffer migraines and had taken Sumatriptan a few hours earlier. It's the only thing I can think of that any different to usual....... I felt normal, but not normal at the same time. I had control of my body but couldn't feel myself breathing or my heart pumping.
I really do not think your medication is what triggered what you described / experienced.
Sounds to me like you just smoked a good bit of dmt, had some anxiety brought up to the surface and that anxiety turned into a panic which spiraled out of control and led to you experiencing some *depersonalization and derealization for a while after.
Not being able to feel oneself breath, or their heartbeat, etc is not uncommon when it comes to smoked dmt...and a common aspect of experiencing depersonalization is feeling dissociated or cut off from one's body and bodily sensations.
Such a thing can happen from smoked dmt alone, or any psychedelic....I honestly don't think the Sumatriptan had any role in causing this.
(*depersonalization is an anomaly of self-awareness. It can consist of a reality or detachment within the self, regarding one's mind or body, or being a detached observer of oneself. Subjects feel they have changed, and the world has become vague, dreamlike, less real, or lacking in significance. It can be a disturbing experience....Individuals who experience depersonalization feel divorced from their own personal physicality by sensing their body sensations, feelings, emotions and behaviors as not belonging to the same person or identity. Often a person who has experienced depersonalization claims that things seem unreal or hazy.)
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...Did the Sumatriptan intensify the DMT or did it reduce the effects?....
Well....We're not the ones who smoked DMT while on Sumatriptan, you are, so you're the only one who could tell .
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