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spixce
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Borderline Personality Disorder
#22305913 - 09/28/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have this pretty bad and it severely effects my daily functioning. It makes me very unstable and I'm very impulsive and can't tolerate being alone. Luckily I have a lot of supportive friends and an amazing girlfriend.
I'm prescribed Zyprexa and it helps a lot, opiates work too. MDMA and adderall temporarily get rid of it completely when I'm on them but they can't be used all the time.
Does anyone else on here that have this?
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Re: Borderline Personality Disorder [Re: spixce]
#22306132 - 09/29/15 12:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Chemicals and drugs, prescribed, or illicit, will only make it worse. Nothing the doctor can give you will ever fix you. Especially true for mental conditions, since they are just a state of mind, not a physical ailment.
Get clean, sober. Withdrawls of ANYTHING, makes ANY condition worse.
Work on becoming Zen. Practice thinking, thoughtless. Imagine black. Let the thought nothing, take over. Then remove the thought nothing, and blackness, and let there truly be emptiness.
This is the key to any pschylogical condition. Ive over come ADHD, bipolar, and manic depression. (They are all made up, they only exist cause we allow them to.)
If the health care industry truly made us better, it wouldnt be a XXX billion dollar industry.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't manic depression and bipolar disorder the same thing?
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Re: Borderline Personality Disorder [Re: Fletcher]
#22306166 - 09/29/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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More or less. But the more the doctors can give different diagnosis, the more drugs they can fill you up with, the more money they make.
Manic depression is more of an instability of emotion with harmful thoughts toward self, while bipolar, is an emotional imbalance, often expressed towards others. Not self.
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Is how it was explained to me
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Oh, I just looked it up, and it says manic depression is what they used to call bi-polar. I might have missed something, though.
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Re: Borderline Personality Disorder [Re: Fletcher]
#22306175 - 09/29/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pretty much. I think Bipolar replaced Manic Depression in the DSM at some point. It basically translates to emotional instability.
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It all bullshit in the end. Lies made to control us. Been beat i to our head by so many "powerful well established people"(doctors). It must be true. Simple fact, is medical schools are funded by pharmaceutical companies, basically controlling what the doctors learn, in turn, in the real world, only knowing what drug companies taught them. Which is jack shit.
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TORCUTT said: Chemicals and drugs, prescribed, or illicit, will only make it worse. Nothing the doctor can give you will ever fix you. Especially true for mental conditions, since they are just a state of mind, not a physical ailment.
Get clean, sober. Withdrawls of ANYTHING, makes ANY condition worse.
Work on becoming Zen. Practice thinking, thoughtless. Imagine black. Let the thought nothing, take over. Then remove the thought nothing, and blackness, and let there truly be emptiness.
This is the key to any pschylogical condition. Ive over come ADHD, bipolar, and manic depression. (They are all made up, they only exist cause we allow them to.)
If the health care industry truly made us better, it wouldnt be a XXX billion dollar industry.
All states 0f mind are physical states of the brain, as far as I can tell
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Sort of. The intangible state of mind, dictates the tangible physical state of the body.
Physical state of body, can also affect the intangible state of our mind.
In anyway, the state of mind cannot be targeted, with drugs, like the state of body can.
Ultimately, thought is the most powerful tool. To need anything aiding thought, creates dependency. In turn makes an instable state of mimd.
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That is easy to say, but controling said thoughts for benafit is another
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TORCUTT said: It all bullshit in the end. Lies made to control us. Been beat i to our head by so many "powerful well established people"(doctors). It must be true. Simple fact, is medical schools are funded by pharmaceutical companies, basically controlling what the doctors learn, in turn, in the real world, only knowing what drug companies taught them. Which is jack shit.
I tend to think that the truth lies somewhere in the middle of all the lies. I've made the same argument regarding psychology before, but it definitely has value to some people and there's really no way to go about understanding ourselves other than defining things, engaging in discourse, and using trial and error to find methods that get results. That's all it is, and what it does all depends on who is practicing and for what.
Scientologists are "powerful well established people" and they will say the same things, so what does that say?
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I sort of agree with you, except exercise naturally changes thought patterns, and mental issues are a very real thing.
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Re: Borderline Personality Disorder [Re: Fletcher]
#22306222 - 09/29/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fletcher said: I sort of agree with you, except exercise naturally changes thought patterns, and mental issues are a very real thing.
Completely. "The physical state of body effects the intangible state of mind."
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specialpeopleclub said: That is easy to say, but controling said thoughts for benafit is another
Just takes practice. You have the right to think.(whateber you want) Dont think about it just do it.
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TORCUTT said: It all bullshit in the end. Lies made to control us. Been beat i to our head by so many "powerful well established people"(doctors). It must be true. Simple fact, is medical schools are funded by pharmaceutical companies, basically controlling what the doctors learn, in turn, in the real world, only knowing what drug companies taught them. Which is jack shit.
I tend to think that the truth lies somewhere in the middle of all the lies. I've made the same argument regarding psychology before, but it definitely has value to some people and there's really no way to go about understanding ourselves other than defining things, engaging in discourse, and using trial and error to find methods that get results. That's all it is, and what it does all depends on who is practicing and for what.
Scientologists are "powerful well established people" and they will say the same things, so what does that say?
I cant say i unerstand the question at hand..
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TORCUTT said: It all bullshit in the end. Lies made to control us. Been beat i to our head by so many "powerful well established people"(doctors). It must be true. Simple fact, is medical schools are funded by pharmaceutical companies, basically controlling what the doctors learn, in turn, in the real world, only knowing what drug companies taught them. Which is jack shit.
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Re: Borderline Personality Disorder [Re: spixce]
#22306254 - 09/29/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just was asking if anyone else here struggled with BPD. I didn't ask for conspiracy theory nonsense...
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moonrockmushy said:
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TORCUTT said: It all bullshit in the end. Lies made to control us. Been beat i to our head by so many "powerful well established people"(doctors). It must be true. Simple fact, is medical schools are funded by pharmaceutical companies, basically controlling what the doctors learn, in turn, in the real world, only knowing what drug companies taught them. Which is jack shit.
I tend to think that the truth lies somewhere in the middle of all the lies. I've made the same argument regarding psychology before, but it definitely has value to some people and there's really no way to go about understanding ourselves other than defining things, engaging in discourse, and using trial and error to find methods that get results. That's all it is, and what it does all depends on who is practicing and for what.
Scientologists are "powerful well established people" and they will say the same things, so what does that say?
I cant say i unerstand the question at hand..
It's sort of rhetorical so that's ok.
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Re: Borderline Personality Disorder [Re: spixce]
#22306273 - 09/29/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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spixce said: conspiracy theory nonsense...
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/natural-health/how-medical-school-funding-from-big-pharma-impacts-your-health/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4696316
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1883449,00.html -Time magazine here.
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around 50 percent of doctors admit to prescribing drugs they don’t believe will work. Stop. Rub your eyes, and read that again. Soak it in.
Its all real bud.. BPD must suck, but it sucks more when a chemical shit storm is raining in your brain parade.
Edited by WhyDidiDoThis (09/29/15 01:42 AM)
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