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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: Shroomslip]
#22307281 - 09/29/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Niffla said: I think it's good if it's truly helping someone not smoke cigarettes
And I say this as a cigarette smoker
That said, any of these dork ass hipsters who jumped on the vape bandwagon because they think the shit looks cool...

To be fair, even us hardcore vapers hate those fuckers. 
Those people just need to piss off and go find some other bandwagon to jump on. It diminishes the vaporizers credibility IMO. I honestly want every single person who smokes to pick up a good vape and quit. Not because I think it's cool, but because I've seen how it can work and being addicted to cigarettes sucks so bad. It's taken us a very long to finally come up with some quit smoking aid that actually damn works. So I'll sing it's praise from rooftops if I have to.
No doubt, I agree that it's worth singing its praises in the cases where it's actually helping real ex-smokers stay cigarette free.
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: Niffla]
#22308439 - 09/29/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm surprise WTA is only mention 4 times here. seems like the number one answer to me, although i haven't tried it yet.
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: Niffla]
#22308448 - 09/29/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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all the people i know with vapes including some on here smoke cigs from time to time along with the vape.
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: 404]
#22308466 - 09/29/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yea i go through times where i vape often, but honestly its a bit of a hassle to me if i'm busy and especially without a home to tinker with it in. car life...
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: Uzziel]
#22308783 - 09/29/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: I say you didn't have the right vape.
Also this.
Have you seen the massive fucking clouds of vapor they can produce?
Yeah. Cloud of tiny droplets of glycerin that will build up on every surface in your house.
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: koods]
#22308832 - 09/29/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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not to mention the people who are so stoked about huge clouds either have very low nicotine juice and many time zero nicotine....
clouds don't really mean shit honestly. i would actually prefer it to be more invisible and so high in active alkaloid that i am inhaling as little glycerin in to my lungs as possible, as well as not being noticed by people around me
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: SurReality]
#22308885 - 09/29/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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the only reason i smoke cigs is cuz my vape was stolen and i can't afford a new one.
personally i hate cigs and they make my lungs feel like crap. this morning i woke up and felt like razor blades were piercing the inside of my chest and i could only breathe-in a minuscule amount of air. and also the nasty taste inside my mouth and nasty smell on my fingers that never ever goes away.
but i need nicotine to stay normal
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: SurReality] 1
#22308906 - 09/29/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cloud chasing is just a sport like cow tipping. Sure it's loads of fun for a moment, but that not really what cows were designed for.
I hear a lot of people talk about reducing nicotine in their vape but still vaping the same. A different concept is to increase the nicotine, but vape less. Makes more sense in a way.
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I hate vaping. I hate cigarettes too but smoking them once in a while can be pretty damn satisfying, especially if I'm drunk. Also smoking menthol cigarettes while high on MDMA is heavenly IMO.
Vaping just isn't satisfying to me in the slightest.
Pretty much everybody here hates the vaporizer except OhMrJohnson.
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: Alexestalex] 1
#22309490 - 09/29/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pretty much everybody here hates the vaporizer except OhMrJohnson.
Did you not even read the thread?
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: Alexestalex]
#22309575 - 09/29/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alexestalex said: I hate vaping. I hate cigarettes too but smoking them once in a while can be pretty damn satisfying, especially if I'm drunk. Also smoking menthol cigarettes while high on MDMA is heavenly IMO.
Vaping just isn't satisfying to me in the slightest.
Pretty much everybody here hates the vaporizer except OhMrJohnson.
Wow, I'm flattered that you would address me so directly
Regardless, your statement is incorrect
Lots of people here have switched from smoking cigs to vaping, definitely not just me, and people can attest to that
Furthermore the reason you hate vaping is because you either vaped out of a shitty device or you vaped shitty juice or some combination of the two
I can assure you that if you were to hit a real vape with good juice you would probably enjoy it and not think it sucks
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: koods]
#22309583 - 09/29/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said:
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Uzziel said:
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Shroomslip said: I say you didn't have the right vape.
Also this.
Have you seen the massive fucking clouds of vapor they can produce?
Yeah. Cloud of tiny droplets of glycerin that will build up on every surface in your house.
That doesn't happen in my house at all and I vape like a fucking madman
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#22309590 - 09/29/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I smoked for 10 years and quit immediately upon getting a nice vape. It wasn't planned but just happened. Now even the smell of Cigs grosses me out. I took a drag off a friend's cig a year or so ago and that pretty much solidified that I'd never smoke again. Tasted disgusting and felt dirty.
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: 404]
#22309614 - 09/29/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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404 said: all the people i know with vapes including some on here smoke cigs from time to time along with the vape. 
The thing that makes vapes such a good alternative IMO is how effective they can be
I smoked through a couple packs of cigs last weekend at the festival so I wouldn't drain my vape batteries really fast, I was kinda chain-smoking and chain-vaping at the same time all weekend
Ran out of the cigs a few days ago and haven't smoked a single one since, my vape literally makes it effortless for me to quit smoking, it satisfies me just as much as a cigarette
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learning sponge said: fuck these vaporizers nuttin' but gimmick bullshit..when im drinking i wanna light a cig wif that tobaccy smell..vapes suck ass compared to cigs
what say you?

I haven't smoked a cigarette in over 3 years and I was able to quit with vaping. So...different strokes for different folks?
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People need to stop stop generalizing vapes and saying they all suck when in reality only some of them actually suck
I mean come on people Shroomery has a whole forum dedicated to vaping, get with the program
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: SurReality] 2
#22309668 - 09/29/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Northerner said: Cloud chasing is just a sport like cow tipping. Sure it's loads of fun for a moment, but that not really what cows were designed for.
I hear a lot of people talk about reducing nicotine in their vape but still vaping the same. A different concept is to increase the nicotine, but vape less. Makes more sense in a way.
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SurReality said: not to mention the people who are so stoked about huge clouds either have very low nicotine juice and many time zero nicotine....
clouds don't really mean shit honestly. i would actually prefer it to be more invisible and so high in active alkaloid that i am inhaling as little glycerin in to my lungs as possible, as well as not being noticed by people around me
That's what's so awesome about vaping. You can do whatever the hell you want. You like more nicotine and invisible vapor and lots of throat hit? Fine, vape high nic PG based juices. Vaping is whatever you want it to be pretty much.
For me personally, I don't like monster clouds to look cool or whateverthefuck. When I first started vaping on an ego, I was not satisfied with the piddly vapor output of 50/50 juices in a shitty clearomizer on a shitty battery.. I sought out higher levels of vapor production which led me to mechs and VV/VW box mods, and higher VG juices.. and with those.. and with monster clouds... I was satisfied. If I didn't seek out the better vapor I might have said fuck ecigs too and went back to smoking cigarettes. But cigarettes are disgusting to me now and a ridiculously expensive habit that slowly kills you. To me, vaping is superior in every conceivable way. You can customize it to the experience you desire.
I am thoroughly convinced that almost everyone who tried ecigs and it "didn't work for them".. weren't using the right combination of juices and devices that they need to be satisfied. Everyone is a little bit different and people want different things out of vaping... and you can have it. You just have to know what you are looking for.. and experiment. People want different tastes out of their juice. What works for some people doesn't work for everyone.
For people that think it's lacking "punch", try a high quality delicious WTA ejuice on a good quality vaporizor. You might change your tune. WTA juices contain all the alkaloids of the tobacco, so it's not just the nicotine, for people who feel they are "missing something". You want throat hit? High PG juices, lots of nic..certain flavors.. that will do it. You want to be fully satisfied? Get a good quality device from the beginning. Even if you spend $200 as an initial investment, you are fucking set for at least a couple years. I'd spend a lot more than that in a month of smoking cigarettes. But don't hate on cloud chasers. Different strokes and shit
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: Shroomism]
#22309723 - 09/29/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I gotta agree on the cloud chasing thing. I don't go for the bigger clouds because they look cool, I just love the way it feels in my lungs.
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I vape for the flavor and the throat hit
Clouds are just a bonus
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Re: vaping DOES NOT replace cigs [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#22309919 - 09/29/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't hate the cloud chasers who love clouds, fair enough, from time to time i'll pop in a low ohm dual coil and make some myself. But I do hate the fashionistas that are making clouds just because it's cool, not because they are substituting their smoking habit.
I really don't see vaping as a game or a toy and those who treat it as such endanger my legal right to vape by forcing the hand of beaurocrats to legislate against it... Just to stop idiots hurting themselves.
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