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madlav
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very dense bunch
#22304920 - 09/28/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Found these in 1 bunch in a lawn in PA. There must be 50 packed together very dense. Any ideas? Edible? Active? Thanks in advance!
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: madlav]
#22304924 - 09/28/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Could be some sort of Gymnopilus, wait for a TI
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Maybe Gymnopilus junonius, what color are the spore prints? Do they stain green at all?
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Still doing a print. Started 30 mins ago and barley visible but maybe brown? I would say staining is tan to brown.
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: madlav]
#22306538 - 09/29/15 04:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's the print. Looks orange maybe.
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: madlav]
#22306632 - 09/29/15 05:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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madlav
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Are you clapping because I found something good? Let's say this was an active bunch of shrooms, how do you get rid of all the bugs?
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: madlav]
#22309211 - 09/29/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i wish i could stumble across that. Looks like a good find
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: Roshy]
#22309249 - 09/29/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm still confused, what did I find? I was driving down the road and saw them. Knocked on the door and they said "please take them, I hate seeing those things". If I have something good I'll be a nice guy and clear her whole yard! They resemble some pics of gymnopilus luteus, yellow tops I think they called them.
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: madlav]
#22309302 - 09/29/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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madlav
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They look the same and features sound alike. Is there a way I can know for sure (or close to it)? Can I put this bunch into a humid climate and get them to finish growing? Should I check the yard where I found them again or is it one and done? Sorry for the questions,first possible active find. Thanks for helping me ID these guysß
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: madlav]
#22309449 - 09/29/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is there a way I can know for sure (or close to it)?
I recommend identifying mushrooms BOTH with the help of others and by using "identification keys." Sometimes you have to spend an hour or two comparing a species description with what you've collected. You should feel right about the ID 100% or continue studying it until you do.
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Can I put this bunch into a humid climate and get them to finish growing?
Once mushrooms are harvested, they can be printed for re-generation, or cloned. You'll want to read about mushroom growing. Some species can have their stipe-basal mycelium added to wood chips for re-generation. Usually mycologists rely and cloning or spore transfer to antiobiotic malt extract agar for trustworthy prosperity.
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Should I check the yard where I found them again or is it one and done?
Definitely. You could see another harvest this year or in future years. But maybe not!
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: madlav]
#22309522 - 09/29/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd smash a lil one and stick it in the fridge see if it turns green or blue.
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: N05482]
#22310145 - 09/29/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Doing it right now. How long?
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: madlav]
#22310489 - 09/29/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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its best to pick a smaller one, one of the pins, take with it a little bit of that mycelium base, place them fully exposed in the fridge for about 6-8 hours, then look at them closely, especially around the edge of the cap, and at the base of the stem..you will see a bluish/green tent if they are active. Im 100% sure those are gymnopilus junonius (spectabilis) East Coast? if they are then chances are theyr active.
(Notice the bluing around the edge of the cap) (And at the top, and bottom of the stem) Note for Future: When harvesting gymnopilus species try to NOT damage the mycelium too much, like you did above (with that chunk of mycelium) Gymnopilus mycelium in my experience is very sensitive, and harvesting gently will improve your chances of more flushes, and future success.
Also, compare your pictures to this one..this is Gymnopilus Junonius I found last year, almost identical to yours. Mine are always VERY VERY active...and I compare their potency to about 80-90% of most Cubensis species, contrary to what most people say.
(Notice this clump, these are younger than yours, but I also messed up and harvested the entire cluster, and destroyed future fruits unknowingly! Dont make the same mistake!!)
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Thanks for your help. Here is about 10 mins in the fridge. Definitely turning green! Wife saw a little white worm in the bag and screamed. No more shrooms in the fridge for me. Does fast bluing equate to higher potency? Are these no good because of the worms (I say worms cause I don't want to think I had a bag of maggots in my fridge)? There is a small forest 10 feet from where they were, worth scouting? Sorry for all the questions.
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: madlav]
#22310748 - 09/29/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bruising is a debatable way of determining potency. Definitely active though!
Bugs are in every mushroom the faster you dry em the faster they die. Or boil em to death. Just extra protein. Lay em out to dry most the bugs will jump or crawl out.
I would scout everywhere near by. Look for stumps logs and chip piles.
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: madlav]
#22310767 - 09/29/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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madlav said: Thanks for your help. Here is about 10 mins in the fridge. Definitely turning green! Wife saw a little white worm in the bag and screamed. No more shrooms in the fridge for me. Does fast bluing equate to higher potency? Are these no good because of the worms (I say worms cause I don't want to think I had a bag of maggots in my fridge)? There is a small forest 10 feet from where they were, worth scouting? Sorry for all the questions.
Yes its worth scouting! In fact its worth looking in every single crack and corner.
You lucky motherfucker I envy you so much, Gyms are my favorite species. If I had some right here id feast upon their flesh.
Ive eatin them with the worms and it didnt harm me or my friends. However if your a pussy about it make a tea or dry them to a crisp in a food dehydrator
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or slicem up, and see how bad they are infected...if its bad, dehydrate them good..iwouldnt eat them, if there are a bunch of maggot eggs inside
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TheShroomanizer said: or slicem up, and see how bad they are infected...if its bad, dehydrate them good..iwouldnt eat them, if there are a bunch of maggot eggs inside
Get that protein get it right get it tight
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TheShroomanizer said: or slicem up, and see how bad they are infected...if its bad, dehydrate them good..iwouldnt eat them, if there are a bunch of maggot eggs inside
Not bad idea to look in the bigger ones. Once dry or boiled fly, Beatle, and most worm eggs are harmless though. Mushrooms picked in dog parks are about the only ones to truly worry about bugs in. Years ago a buddy of mine got k9 heart worms from fresh cyans picked in Seattle.
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madlav
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Out of that whole bunch I think I saw 3 or 4. Are gyms hard to cultivate?
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: madlav]
#22310937 - 09/29/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Debatable... Depends on skill or luck.
Find the right spot drill some holes in a log stuff it with butts or myc. Could fruit for years no energy input after.
Or hours of transfers and jars full of substrate and many fails later, have few ounces pop up.
Not impossible but way easier to just help nature do it's thing than make a Truman show.
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Re: very dense bunch [Re: N05482]
#22311063 - 09/29/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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great find! those are super nice looking, and a few bugs are part of the hunt.
if you want to enjoy them later, i see two reasonable options. the first is to cut them up into little bits, and STEEP them but don't boil them. just take a pot of water, boil it, turn off the gas, add the mushrooms, wait until it cools, strain it, and you can store it in the fridge for a few days or freeze it for a few weeks (some people add ginger to mask the taste, but either way, it won't taste good).
a better option is to cut them up into larger pieces (maybe just split them down the middle of each mushroom), lay them out on a cookie sheet, set them in front of a window and have a small desk fan blow on them (if you don't have a food dehydrator). they should take a couple of days to dry out, but then you can store them in a jar for weeks, months, and years (although the potency does drop).
keep that spot in mind, they will come back year after year in exactly the same spot.
congrats!
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madlav
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Thanks for your help everyone! I feel like I hit the lottery! Such a rush!
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