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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22396868 - 10/18/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quick response thanks :cool:

I've already birthed 2 that fully colonised and consolidated, the other three aren't going any further. (I've also got a monotub about to fruit which is looking pretty sweet :cool:)

So should I cut out the uncolonised sub before dunking, then crumble into a container, and put a layer of verm over the top, mist and then put into SGFC??

I need to get these fruiting otherwise they are going to get tossed.

Thanks guys :tongue:



Yes I would do what you said. But when you cut off the uncolonized part, I would lightly rinse it while rubbing off ALL uncolonized parts. Because cutting it off doesnt sound like you would get 100% of it off.

Yea just cover it with verm






Sweet, I'm gonna get dunking now then and I'll be back with my results :tongue:


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22396883 - 10/18/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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To me this is suggestive that PF cakes lack the water to even realize a single flush to potential.




This is why its often recommended to set cakes with a big pinset into a saucer of water. The extra supplied water makes a huge difference,  yet all too often this advice will be ignored. Another thing to note is that we hydrate bulk to field capacity but a properly made cake is nowhere near field capacity.  Bulk by its very nature will have far more water. A pf cake by volume is a quarter water. Most coir verm mixes are a third to 40% water. That is a big difference.


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22397175 - 10/18/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for that advice pasty, I'll have to use that when my cakes are ready and fruiting.


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: MajickMuffin]
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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: blackout]
    #22397352 - 10/18/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thats awesome!

12 years old and still relevent!

Could you use only coir instead of his soil-looking mix?


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: blackout]
    #22397355 - 10/18/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How did you go about this? My attempt at casing my cakes didn't go very well. Help would be appreciated!


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: blackout]
    #22397370 - 10/18/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Anno cased cakes without crumbling
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1744572/fpart/all/vc/1




I remember reading that years ago when I was still lurking. Actually is the inspiration behind a project I am planning soon. Just made the first transfer from the spores for it this morning. Anyway nice link :thumbup:


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22397389 - 10/18/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This is why its often recommended to set cakes with a big pinset into a saucer of water. The extra supplied water makes a huge difference,  yet all too often this advice will be ignored. Another thing to note is that we hydrate bulk to field capacity but a properly made cake is nowhere near field capacity.  Bulk by its very nature will have far more water. A pf cake by volume is a quarter water. Most coir verm mixes are a third to 40% water. That is a big difference.




Do you mean put them in a saucer of water in the SGFC? or just put them in one when the pinset comes? I've got some cakes on the way so I'd like to know!


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: blew42]
    #22397403 - 10/18/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes in the SGFC. When the pinset is in and if it looks dense, put a saucer of water in the SGFC and set the cake in it. Pour off any water not absorbed by the next day and then do it again.


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22397448 - 10/18/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Is the plate of water an alternative to dunking a cake?


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22397450 - 10/18/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No. Always dunk the cake.


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22397458 - 10/18/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Could you use only coir instead of his soil-looking mix?



I guess so, his was
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40% coir, 40% Peat based potting soli, 10% vermiculite, 5% calcium carbonate, 5% crushed oystershells. Pasteurized in a microwave for 10 minutes at high.




Anno still is about but not posting, he was one of my favourite posters. He is not a credited TC but lots of the best older posters are not as its a relatively new thing.


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LogicaL Chaos said:12 years old and still relevent!


Lots of older stuff is stupidly dismissed, 2 of the best reads I had this year were 90+ and 135+ years old!


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #22397614 - 10/18/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Is the plate of water an alternative to dunking a cake?



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No. Always dunk the cake.



+1, cakes can be very dry, if you take a towel out of a tumble drier it may not take on moisture very well, it can just roll off it. Same with with a dried out potted plant, you can add litres of water and it can just run right through it. While if the substance is moist it can readily take on and wick moisture far better.


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Re: Casing cakes, awesome!!! [Re: blackout]
    #22397629 - 10/18/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, I see.

Good info guys. Thanks.


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