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MagicDave
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P. cubensis cultivation
#22304174 - 09/28/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is my first attempt at magic mushroom cultivation. I just cultivated some oysters which was my first attempt at cultivation period.
I have 7 half pint BRF jars of P. cubensis a strain spores, many over 50% colonized.

This is my terrarium, don't worry, it is no longer on the floor:

I had a thread going for my oysters and received a lot of help along the way, so I thought I would get a thread going for these also.
(edit) don't worry, I am not going to place the cakes directly in the perlite like shown above, those were a previous oyster cultivation attempt, I just wanted to show what kind of terrarium that I am using.
Edited by MagicDave (09/28/15 05:40 PM)
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: MagicDave]
#22304189 - 09/28/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If I get an average yield from my 7 BRF cakes, how many grams roughly will I get? I know it can be hard to judge, but just a rough estimate.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: MagicDave]
#22304212 - 09/28/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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First...good job, everything looks legit...aso for average yield...you never know with MS, I had some cakes go fucking nuts, but I've also had cakes not fruit at all... your doing good...keep it up.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: LocN9ne]
#22304561 - 09/28/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice job man! Keep us updated as things progress.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22306002 - 09/28/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You should have used 1/2 pint WIDE MOUTH jars. Complete colonization can be a pain in the ass with the jars you used. But everything else looks good. Remember, your cakes will like actual drops of water resting on top of them when they are in the fruiting chamber.
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Edited by tahoe (09/29/15 02:08 AM)
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: tahoe]
#22306064 - 09/29/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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iso test half pint and pint
 the halfs took 9 days to colonize...still in progress
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: tahoe]
#22306780 - 09/29/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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When misting should I avoid spraying the cakes directly or does that matter?
Next time I'll use the type of jar that you suggested.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: MagicDave]
#22307192 - 09/29/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mist them directly, you don't want to mist your walls, only the cakes. Mist them until they glisten with a light layer of moisture then fan. Sometimes you wont even have to mist, only fan, just depends on how the cakes are looking. With more experience you'll notice how they're supposed to be looking when they need to be misted.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22307488 - 09/29/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool, thanks for the info. Once 100% colonized, would you let them sit for a week before birthing like I have seen said in some teks?
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: MagicDave]
#22307565 - 09/29/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, for BRF cakes you want to allow a week of consolidation after 100% colonization.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22307704 - 09/29/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah. Give them a solid week from when it appears that they are fully colonized before you open them.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: tahoe]
#22310934 - 09/29/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Will do. The myceilium seems to be spreading really quick at this point. I think they will be 100% colonized within a few days. After that as stated, I will give them a week before birthing.
Do you recommend the dunk and roll method? That is my current plan.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: MagicDave]
#22310977 - 09/29/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
MagicDave said: Do you recommend the dunk and roll method? That is my current plan.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: tahoe]
#22312830 - 09/30/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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tahoe said: You should have used 1/2 pint WIDE MOUTH jars. Complete colonization can be a pain in the ass with the jars you used. But everything else looks good. Remember, your cakes will like actual drops of water resting on top of them when they are in the fruiting chamber.
While this is undoubtedly true and have read for 3 years about the differences in the jars. I have never had a problem using the regular ones. I don't see why they work well for me but not so many other people. Shit, I have even used the tall full pint regular mouth jars with same results....no problems. Must be cause once inoculated I don't handle much so they don't compact as bad....
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I've read all the arguments regarding the different style half pint jars, and yea I agree the half pint wide mouth jars work better.
But I've never had any problems with the tall half pints. In most parts, short of ordering online they are becoming very hard to find
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: mushpunx]
#22312978 - 09/30/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had no issues using pint jars my first time. I do prefer half pints as well.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22337874 - 10/05/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have one fruiting in the jar.

Is this normal? The jar is only 70% colonized. What should I do? Should I wait for 100% colonization before birthing. Will that shroom rot?
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: MagicDave]
#22338144 - 10/05/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If its not fully colonized its probably pinning early because its contaminated. Maybe just some bacteria.
Wait till its finished colonizing but maybe skip the consolidation period, dunk roll and fruit.
Un colonized grain needs to be kept sterile. If you birth it now it will contaminate for sure
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: mushpunx]
#22338362 - 10/05/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just realized that there is some space between the grain and the side of the jar. It must have clumped up there and left an air pocket.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: MagicDave]
#22370417 - 10/12/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am currently dunking 5 of my cakes overnight. A couple of them have fairly large mushrooms on them already (possibly contamination, see above, possibly something else). Nevertheless I am dunking them anyway. Should I harvest the mushrooms that grew in the jar before rolling or not?
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: MagicDave]
#22370698 - 10/12/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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MagicDave said: I am currently dunking 5 of my cakes overnight. A couple of them have fairly large mushrooms on them already (possibly contamination, see above, possibly something else). Nevertheless I am dunking them anyway. Should I harvest the mushrooms that grew in the jar before rolling or not?
You could harvest them, or you could not. You should still get the same average yield. I'd let one grow for science!
Based on your pictures your cakes look perfectly healthy. Unless your cakes are foul and slimy at this point, I doubt the mushrooms that grew inside the jars were any indication of bacteria.
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If theyre 100% colonized...dunk them for a good 12 hours. I like to leave those invitro ftuits on during the dunk, then roll em too. Sometimes they turn into massive fruits or nice clusters. Which make great clone candidates to agar.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: pitbullfan]
#22370927 - 10/12/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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pitbullfan said: make great clone candidates to agar.
Exactly. Invitro fruits are the product of great genes! Sometimes bacteria, as said previously, but in your case great genes!!
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These are looking pretty good right?
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: tahoe]
#22379773 - 10/14/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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tahoe said: Yeah. Give them a solid week from when it appears that they are fully colonized before you open them.
So after there fully colonized let them stay in place for one more week. Thats what new thing I have learned.
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Yesterday I ingested 3 dry grams of my mushrooms. It was the most insane thing that I have ever experienced. I put a report here if you are interested in reading it: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22436340
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: MagicDave]
#22436397 - 10/26/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sounds like a good time!
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: guyute22]
#22450976 - 10/29/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have dunked my cakes for the second time and am getting some more fruiting. What sucks is that I am going on a 3 day trip. There is no one that will be able to mist or fan the cakes while I am gone. What would you do?
Would you pick anything fruiting, even if it is early and start the drying process and just start misting in 3 days again?
Would you leave mushrooms that are not ready to be picked on cakes, and just start misting again in 3 days?
Thanks.
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: MagicDave]
#22453135 - 10/30/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah your cakes would definitely dry up and stall out after 3 days of no misting.
A good idea would be to keep the bottom of the cake sitting in a small plate of water so it can at least stay hydrated until you come back, then resume your normal mist/fan schedule.
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If you are looking for yeilds...move to bulk!
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Re: P. cubensis cultivation [Re: oontribe]
#22453548 - 10/30/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Idk cubes and cakes just don't mix IMO. They need soo much attention. I love set and forget
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