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takoda93
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[ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2.
#22303164 - 09/28/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Had such a good haul yesterday that SWIM decided to go back up to find many many more. You guys responded quick as fuck and really helped ID them so cheers!
Habitat: Up at the top of a mountain, found amongst long grasses. Not a lot of plants found near by.
Gills: (Look a little white in the photo) but light brown/Yellow arguably grey - Dark brown black gills. Going off what you guys verified yesterday I'm confident these are more liberty caps.
Stem: ranging from a few millimetres to 4-5 inches. Yellow-brown stem, some of these found later in the night have bruised blue. I've heard this is AOKAY?
Cap: Typical nipple on most, yellow-ey brown besides the ones bruised light blue. Blue ones look like they've "opened up more" and are much larger, but still have signs of what was once or is a very small nipple.
Spore print color: Waiting on spore print as we speak
Bruising: Light blue, some dark brown patches.
Other information: Found in spots I went to yesterday where I found (verified by yourselves) liberty caps. Today they're a bit bigger than I found, and there were more clusters of them.
Any advice would be great, cheers guys!
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: takoda93]
#22303241 - 09/28/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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IMPORTANT PLEASE READ
You have SOME liberty caps and SOME unknown species and you got em all mixed together  please post better pictures of individual musrooms (big ones and little ones )
make sure you are ONLY eating libs not the other ones be careful please!
Edited by newlibangel (09/28/15 02:44 PM)
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: newlibangel]
#22303276 - 09/28/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i circled some of the libs ,,, those big huge ones are not liberty caps they look pretty bruised and may be something else that is active , but they do not look like liberty caps too me they look way too big , just be careful
Edited by newlibangel (09/28/15 02:52 PM)
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: newlibangel]
#22303301 - 09/28/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's a blue Stropharia and is not psychoactive.
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: newlibangel]
#22303313 - 09/28/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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# 3 and # 5 are the only liberty caps in this picture
sections #1, #2, & #4 are all 100% NOT LIBERTY CAPS
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takoda93
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: newlibangel]
#22303365 - 09/28/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cheers guys, fucking bummer about those blue ones. Thought SWIM hit mushroom mountain when we came across those. Thanks for ID-ing them though. After googling blue Stropharia they definitely look like those.
Won't be eating anything I'm not sure off don't worry - can't be arsed dying. I'll discard the blues and try and get some better photos of the possible liberty caps. Thanks again!
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: takoda93]
#22303876 - 09/28/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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( in the above photo i posted ) mushroom #3 is 100% a libertycap  get more of those and get familiar with exactly what they look like and remember "when in doubt throw it out"
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: takoda93]
#22503871 - 11/10/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey guys! I'm looking for some help, Can anyone tell me if I've found the right shrooms? they all have nipple caps and teardrop shape, Colour seemed off from seeing a lot of other peoples pictures of theirs? but about 3 hours after picking there starting to look a different colour, If anyone could tell me it would be greatly appreciated, thanks..I'll post some pictures
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Shhroom]
#22504008 - 11/10/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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they dont look right.
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: shroom_spearo]
#22504045 - 11/10/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Panaeolina foenisecii
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With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: shroom_spearo]
#22504150 - 11/10/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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the pictures i just posted look different to how they look now, they've been sitting on paper drying for about 3-4 hours now and they are actually starting to turn a more normal colour ... possibly they were carrying a lot of water? may have caused dis-coloration? look at them now
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Shhroom]
#22504281 - 11/10/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nah, liberty cap stems don't look like that really. Lib stems look more white ish (not pure white though) and are wiggly and bendable.
You see how the cap of yours almost looks "waxy"? That's how we can tell they're not libs. The texture looks different.
You're close though keep looking and you'll strike gold.
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Shhroom]
#22504299 - 11/10/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shhroom said: the pictures i just posted look different to how they look now, they've been sitting on paper drying for about 3-4 hours now and they are actually starting to turn a more normal colour ... possibly they were carrying a lot of water? may have caused dis-coloration? look at them now
They look like Panaeolina foenisecii, they aren't liberty caps. When fresh liberty caps have a transparent, slimey outer layer on the cap (which shows the gills underneath) that can be peeled away. They also have a purplish spore print while those should have a plain brown spore print.
Here are 2 libs I found, notice the slimey transparent outer layer on the left one revealing the lines of the gills underneath. Also the pointy nipple (although not all libs have this, but most). Libs also usually have a dark ring around the bottom of cap.
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: CharlesBruce]
#22504497 - 11/10/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks for the reply! ive been comparing them to Panaeolina foenisecii which ive picked up in the last few days by accident, but these are defiantly different to them, not questioning your knowledge but there is a very big difference looking at them in person.. these are irish shrooms, they would look different to the ones over in england? reason im trying to find out is because the exact same field that my friend picked last year is where we got them. Which was a very intense trip,
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Williamsii
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Shhroom]
#22505185 - 11/10/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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More than one species will grow in a field. You definitely don't have Ps semilanceata. You have an inactive Panaeolus species.
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Shhroom
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Williamsii]
#22506235 - 11/10/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see, Is it still possible to find Ps semilanceata so late in the season? thanks for all the helps guys!
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Williamsii]
#22506255 - 11/10/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Williamsii said: More than one species will grow in a field. You definitely don't have Ps semilanceata. You have an inactive Panaeolus species.
To be fair, pan foen contains serotonin, its metabolite 5-HIAA and 5-HTP. They also grow among some active species as if they were meant to be eaten in conjunction with each other. Not only that, but they tend to grow in areas in which the weather can be the doldrums and seriously affect people's moods or suicidal ideation. There are a few threads here and other sites suggesting them as replacement for SSRIs, or that perhaps they were grown to make us feel better.
I would not recommend you eat them OP. You likely won't have noticeable effects outside of general well-being. You can buy far more 5htp for ten bucks.
Edit: affect / effect
Edited by Adden (11/10/15 05:43 PM)
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Shhroom]
#22506278 - 11/10/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shhroom said: I see, Is it still possible to find Ps semilanceata so late in the season? thanks for all the helps guys!
Oh yes, I saw some today. It's very mild and no sign of frost for the forseeable so I can see a few more weeks of libs, til end of month at least. They might be growing where you found those, its wet so look for small, slimey brown mushrooms amongst the grass.
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Adden]
#22508481 - 11/11/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dys said: To be fair, pan foen contains serotonin, its metabolite 5-HIAA and 5-HTP. They also grow among some active species as if they were meant to be eaten in conjunction with each other. Not only that, but they tend to grow in areas in which the weather can be the doldrums and seriously affect people's moods or suicidal ideation.
I'm sorry, but I don't buy your intelligent design hypothesis. Who or what 'meant' for them to be eaten because they grow together? By that same logic, deadly Galerinas are meant to be eaten with the active wood-loving species that they grow alongside.
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Adden]
#22509205 - 11/11/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dys said:
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Williamsii said: More than one species will grow in a field. You definitely don't have Ps semilanceata. You have an inactive Panaeolus species.
To be fair, pan foen contains serotonin, its metabolite 5-HIAA and 5-HTP. They also grow among some active species as if they were meant to be eaten in conjunction with each other. Not only that, but they tend to grow in areas in which the weather can be the doldrums and seriously affect people's moods or suicidal ideation. There are a few threads here and other sites suggesting them as replacement for SSRIs, or that perhaps they were grown to make us feel better.
Panaeolus grow pretty much everywhere on earth. Mushrooms have existed far longer than people have, they were not 'grown' to serve us.
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#22509275 - 11/11/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said:
Panaeolus grow pretty much everywhere on earth. Mushrooms have existed far longer than people have, they were not 'grown' to serve us.
Perhaps not, but I did manage to get my god fearing mother in law to start using active mushrooms for her cluster headaches by arguing that maybe God put them here to help us.
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: CharlesBruce]
#22510722 - 11/11/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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these were brown when picked though!
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Visions710]
#22510753 - 11/11/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Visions710 said: maynardjameskeenan said:
Panaeolus grow pretty much everywhere on earth. Mushrooms have existed far longer than people have, they were not 'grown' to serve us.
Perhaps not, but I did manage to get my god fearing mother in law to start using active mushrooms for her cluster headaches by arguing that maybe God put them here to help us. 
You should try clusterbusters.org if you haven't been there yet.
Edited by Adden (11/13/15 06:32 PM)
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Adden]
#22516265 - 11/12/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, it's a great site. I get cluster headaches too.
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Visions710]
#22516540 - 11/13/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I got redirected to this lool
-------------------- I give you the choice of 2 pills.
With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Blazeyy]
#22517312 - 11/13/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: [ID Request] Hopefully Liberty caps - Ireland Round 2. [Re: Visions710]
#22519397 - 11/13/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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My bad sorry.
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