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Giftofdeprivation
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Patlal]
#22308809 - 09/29/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honestly, some things are very vague but everything sounds pretty impressive to me despite the 15% fixed tax rate for businesses. There are decreasing hurdles, the larger your business is, so large businesses really should have to pay more taxes.
Great post, OP!
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
#22308822 - 09/29/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh more, not less?
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Stonehenge]
#22308843 - 09/29/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Trump kicked your ass at everything he did. He cheated no one, how many have you cheated?
He has gone from broke to billionaire, not many can do that.
He inherited a giant fortune and has screwed lenders, partners and contractors time and time again. Cheating. Do you know who has never declared bankruptcy and always paid his bills? Me.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: akira_akuma]
#22308862 - 09/29/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think so. The larger your business, the more stable you are in the economy by nature. The reputation of capital is worth more than the capital itself.
Kinda why Paris Hilton gets $100,000 of free shit when she goes shopping anywhere.
Also, no one would let a big business fail because the economy relies on them. We clearly established a bunch of bailouts during our last depression to save those big businesses. What happened to the small ones?
What are the risks of a big business shutting down, vs. a small one? What are the profit margins for big businesses vs. small ones?
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
#22308880 - 09/29/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Profit margins tend to be less as long as they have equivalent competition but it is acceptable because of scale. A small company cannot exist on a 5% profit margin. It isn't worth the risk or the work.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: zappaisgod]
#22308895 - 09/29/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: He inherited a giant fortune and has screwed lenders, partners and contractors time and time again. Cheating.
You have never presented a shred of evidence to support your claim. All you can come up with is a few of his businesses went into chapter 11 for reorganization. How many have you cheated?
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: zappaisgod]
#22308910 - 09/29/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trump is going sit in office, rescind some of shit that Obama did and appeal for border security hikes, and his tax abatement will screw every small business that isn't a bar or pub, and screw everyone else in the process along with 'em; then he will withdraw his charges and leave the US in a committal to the big welfare office.
prepare your anus's.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: akira_akuma]
#22309062 - 09/29/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The truth is. None of us knows what if he's gonna be good or bad as president. I rather it be Trump than Bush or Clinton
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Patlal]
#22309074 - 09/29/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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no, you'd rather it being something other than hype, believe me...hype is what's killing the fucking planet.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Patlal]
#22309075 - 09/29/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: The truth is. None of us knows what if he's gonna be good or bad as president. I rather it be Trump than Bush or Clinton
Gonna have to STAL on that one, Pa'l. I wanna see the voting participant rates for this election compared to the last few. I bet it's down by 50% because of how shitty all the candidates are.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
#22309132 - 09/29/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trump will get people motivated, he is good at that. All some people (cough) know how to do is knock and attack others who are better than them. Trump will get everyone talking about his plans and we will have the biggest turnout in decades.
Poor feeble Bernie will fizzle out into history. The bitch will finally give up and we will be rid of the Clinton curse and hopefully of the bush curse.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Stonehenge]
#22309173 - 09/29/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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look, why do you even keep mentioning the other candidates like they even matter; just go Trump! Trump! oh please let me suck your dick! Trump!
he's gonna get people talking about "his plans".
yeah, and everyone will get talking about their plans. it's Trump nation #1 best country in the planet earth.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: akira_akuma]
#22309276 - 09/29/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: look, why do you even keep mentioning the other candidates like they even matter; just go Trump! Trump! oh please let me suck your dick! Trump!
he's gonna get people talking about "his plans".
yeah, and everyone will get talking about their plans. it's Trump nation #1 best country in the planet earth.
"why mention the other candidates, you don't care about them" I'm pretty sure if he didn't care about the other candidates... he wouldn't have mentioned them. 
So tell us, Canadian, which candidate is better than trump?
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Webster10]
#22309288 - 09/29/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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the entirety of my last post there was sarcastic.
i haven't heard anything about any of the other candidates...i am after in Canada. all i hear about is that fart Trump.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: koods]
#22309305 - 09/29/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: I will and he'll certainly win over no name webb, corrupt bitch, grumpy santa, pussy omalley or moonface metric chaffee. The dems suck a fat one this cycle and Biden is your only hope. Also nice deflection. You're really good at the being smug and arrogant part of being a liberal but you never back up your argument with logic or fact and you just deflect every question that comes your way. Oh wait. Typical liberal.
Lol. I see you're into the name calling. I guess that's what a trump supporter calls a substantive argument.
This plan would explode the deficit.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/donald-trumps-amazingly-conventional-tax-plan/407713/
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Yet superlatives aside, in most other respects the Trump proposal falls well within the Republican mainstream: It’s a big tax cut for the wealthy that, despite claims to the contrary, will add trillions to the deficit. “The best way to think about this plan is, start with Governor Jeb Bush’s tax plan and then make it a larger tax cut,”
Woah, some liberal writing for "theatlantic" says that this plan isn't economically viable. What about your beloved Pual Crapman? He even said Trump was right on economics. Stop cherry picking out of jealousy. Those tactics don't work on anyone who is even remotely educated.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Webster10]
#22309325 - 09/29/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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LOL how long is Trump's term? 4 years? 8 maybe?
think about economic trends now and viability later.
Trump is missing the growth point on the stability of the middle class and then he's going liberal on some things like a penitent moron.
good luck with your consumer market strategies with his mandatory processing skills.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: zappaisgod]
#22309386 - 09/29/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's a tax cut for EVERYONE. Everyone, including you, will pay less in taxes. Anyone sensible is willing to compromise, especially if compromising will lead to a plan as good as this one. You'd have to be blind deaf or just dumb to not like this plan.
You have to be dumb if you think that will work.
You have to be a drooling imbecile to think trumps plan won't work. Are all of the experts he hired to draft this policy all just blind to the zappaisgod economic doctrine? They're all wrong and you're right?
They are political hacks who will promise a chicken in every pot to get a vote. Are you really making a plea to authority of people you can't even identify? You can suck the piece of shit's dick but I have known that he was a scumbag for decades. We are in the same industry. I know contractors who have gotten fucked by him. There is only one planet in his world and that is Planet Trump. He doesn't giva a fuck about anybody else. He is a lying finagling self-aggrandizing cheat who was born on third base and tells everybody he hit a triple. His policy prescriptions are almost uniformly laughable and he would have exactly zero chance of getting them passed. The only thing he might be able to do, and I agree with him on this, is enforce existing law in re the illegal border jumping scum. He's never getting that tax thing passed and onlya drunk would think it is revenue neutral. He might actually manage to surpass Obama in raising the deficit. Where are the spending cuts, Donnie boy? No jobs will come back because of lower taxes because the cheap labor will still be overseas.
Is that what you do? Cherry pick liberal lines out of the NYT to argue against repubs you don't like but then say the NYT is a POS source when talking about a repub you like? Let's all just listen to Zap, the economic guru, and have him spell out how lower taxes won't bring money and jobs back home for us dumb dumbs. Yeah we get it, Trump is successful and you're not, cry about it some more, no one will care. Everyone successful businessman has had to fuck over people during his life. Get over it. How about we elect a leader that will apply his skill sets on a global scale and start fucking over china, mexico, iran and the likes. Name one candidate that is better. Please name one. You used to say walker, who was a pandering religious no-brain shit head by the way. Now who do you think is better?
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: akira_akuma]
#22309397 - 09/29/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: LOL how long is Trump's term? 4 years? 8 maybe?
think about economic trends now and viability later.
Trump is missing the growth point on the stability of the middle class and then he's going liberal on some things like a penitent moron.
good luck with your consumer market strategies with his mandatory processing skills.
How would cutting taxes for the middle class miss "the growth point on the stability of the middle class?" (whatever the fuck that means)
For years now the middle class has been experiencing a shrinkage in size as well as stagnated wages. No growth whatsoever.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Webster10]
#22309407 - 09/29/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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none of them are good to the extent of recognizing their idiocy. especially Trump. well he'll just pander maybe that's not "stupid" but it is idiotic.
he's going to fluff everyone up with hype until he's goddamn post-toasty. then we'll see what happens when people get rid of him.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: akira_akuma]
#22309415 - 09/29/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: none of them are good to the extent of recognizing their idiocy. especially Trump. well he'll just pander maybe that's not "stupid" but it is idiotic.
he's going to fluff everyone up with hype until he's goddamn post-toasty. then we'll see what happens when people get rid of him.
Why would he pander? What would he gain? Politicians pander. Billionaires don't have to.
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