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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: koods] 1
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I will and he'll certainly win over no name webb, corrupt bitch, grumpy santa, pussy omalley or moonface metric chaffee. The dems suck a fat one this cycle and Biden is your only hope. Also nice deflection. You're really good at the being smug and arrogant part of being a liberal but you never back up your argument with logic or fact and you just deflect every question that comes your way. Oh wait. Typical liberal.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Webster10] 1
#22307387 - 09/29/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's a tax cut for EVERYONE. Everyone, including you, will pay less in taxes. Anyone sensible is willing to compromise, especially if compromising will lead to a plan as good as this one. You'd have to be blind deaf or just dumb to not like this plan.
You have to be dumb if you think that will work.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: koods]
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A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate,
The corporate tax rate should be zero even for domestic profits.
You're abusiness man. You pay 35% right now (unless you have found loopholes). You should be ecstatic right now.
Plus someone is finally doing what I've been saying for years now. Instead of high taxes forcing corporation to give minimal salaries in order to pbe profitable, which then forces employees to need foodstamps. Lower the corporate taxes so they can give better wages and keep prices stable therefore reducing the need for foodstamps.
It makes sense IMO
That's "trickle down" economics. I think we all know that idea is in the trashbin of history
It has worked quite well for me
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: zappaisgod]
#22307431 - 09/29/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's a tax cut for EVERYONE. Everyone, including you, will pay less in taxes. Anyone sensible is willing to compromise, especially if compromising will lead to a plan as good as this one. You'd have to be blind deaf or just dumb to not like this plan.
You have to be dumb if you think that will work.
You have to be a drooling imbecile to think trumps plan won't work. Are all of the experts he hired to draft this policy all just blind to the zappaisgod economic doctrine? They're all wrong and you're right?
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#22307516 - 09/29/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mr.GuessWork said: I always get trickle down economics and feudalism confused. I wonder what we'll call it next time.
If you get those two concepts confused you have a hilariously poor understanding of both of them.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Webster10]
#22307562 - 09/29/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: I will and he'll certainly win over no name webb, corrupt bitch, grumpy santa, pussy omalley or moonface metric chaffee. The dems suck a fat one this cycle and Biden is your only hope. Also nice deflection. You're really good at the being smug and arrogant part of being a liberal but you never back up your argument with logic or fact and you just deflect every question that comes your way. Oh wait. Typical liberal.
Lol. I see you're into the name calling. I guess that's what a trump supporter calls a substantive argument.
This plan would explode the deficit.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/donald-trumps-amazingly-conventional-tax-plan/407713/
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Yet superlatives aside, in most other respects the Trump proposal falls well within the Republican mainstream: It’s a big tax cut for the wealthy that, despite claims to the contrary, will add trillions to the deficit. “The best way to think about this plan is, start with Governor Jeb Bush’s tax plan and then make it a larger tax cut,”
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zappaisgod
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Webster10]
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It's a tax cut for EVERYONE. Everyone, including you, will pay less in taxes. Anyone sensible is willing to compromise, especially if compromising will lead to a plan as good as this one. You'd have to be blind deaf or just dumb to not like this plan.
You have to be dumb if you think that will work.
You have to be a drooling imbecile to think trumps plan won't work. Are all of the experts he hired to draft this policy all just blind to the zappaisgod economic doctrine? They're all wrong and you're right?
They are political hacks who will promise a chicken in every pot to get a vote. Are you really making a plea to authority of people you can't even identify? You can suck the piece of shit's dick but I have known that he was a scumbag for decades. We are in the same industry. I know contractors who have gotten fucked by him. There is only one planet in his world and that is Planet Trump. He doesn't giva a fuck about anybody else. He is a lying finagling self-aggrandizing cheat who was born on third base and tells everybody he hit a triple. His policy prescriptions are almost uniformly laughable and he would have exactly zero chance of getting them passed. The only thing he might be able to do, and I agree with him on this, is enforce existing law in re the illegal border jumping scum. He's never getting that tax thing passed and onlya drunk would think it is revenue neutral. He might actually manage to surpass Obama in raising the deficit. Where are the spending cuts, Donnie boy? No jobs will come back because of lower taxes because the cheap labor will still be overseas.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22307591 - 09/29/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's just another Donald Trump scam
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: koods]
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Lol. I see you're into the name calling. I guess that's what a trump supporter calls a substantive argument.
This plan would explode the deficit.
How would removing loopholes for the top to get a higher real tax rate increase the deficit? That's what Trump's plan includes.
Or should we stay with the status quo and let the top pay only a % of the current tax rate?
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: zappaisgod]
#22307626 - 09/29/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's a tax cut for EVERYONE. Everyone, including you, will pay less in taxes. Anyone sensible is willing to compromise, especially if compromising will lead to a plan as good as this one. You'd have to be blind deaf or just dumb to not like this plan.
You have to be dumb if you think that will work.
You have to be a drooling imbecile to think trumps plan won't work. Are all of the experts he hired to draft this policy all just blind to the zappaisgod economic doctrine? They're all wrong and you're right?
They are political hacks who will promise a chicken in every pot to get a vote. Are you really making a plea to authority of people you can't even identify? You can suck the piece of shit's dick but I have known that he was a scumbag for decades. We are in the same industry. I know contractors who have gotten fucked by him. There is only one planet in his world and that is Planet Trump. He doesn't giva a fuck about anybody else. He is a lying finagling self-aggrandizing cheat who was born on third base and tells everybody he hit a triple. His policy prescriptions are almost uniformly laughable and he would have exactly zero chance of getting them passed. The only thing he might be able to do, and I agree with him on this, is enforce existing law in re the illegal border jumping scum. He's never getting that tax thing passed and onlya drunk would think it is revenue neutral. He might actually manage to surpass Obama in raising the deficit. Where are the spending cuts, Donnie boy? No jobs will come back because of lower taxes because the cheap labor will still be overseas.
"No jobs will come back because of lower taxes"
Very true, the days of trying to fine tune tax rates to create economic growth and prosperity are long gone. That model broke over 30 years ago, yet all we hear about is how to fix the economy with a new tax plan.
Once we figure it out, we should sell the plan to the whole world, it's guaranteed to create an economic paradise.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: zappaisgod]
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It's a tax cut for EVERYONE. Everyone, including you, will pay less in taxes. Anyone sensible is willing to compromise, especially if compromising will lead to a plan as good as this one. You'd have to be blind deaf or just dumb to not like this plan.
You have to be dumb if you think that will work.
What's hilarious is that if Scott Walker had proposed this exact same plan you would have called him a genius
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Patlal] 1
#22307667 - 09/29/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No. I would have called him a lying idiot.
What do you Trump dick riders put the odds of this ever passing Comgress at? I would firmly establish odds of a billion to one.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: zappaisgod]
#22307748 - 09/29/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: No. I would have called him a lying idiot.
What do you Trump dick riders put the odds of this ever passing Comgress at? I would firmly establish odds of a billion to one.
I think by now you should have been smart enough to know what Trump is doing...
He know that congress will water down everything he proposes. Why do you think his proposition are so extreme to begin with? The guy is a negotiator. When he says he want to deport everybody, he knows congress will simply allow the bad ones to go and naturalize the others (which I strongly suspect that's exactly what trump wants.
As for his massive tax cuts, he says 0, 10, 15 and 25% +15% corporate. Again, he's fully aware that congress will water it down and increase these numbers to what makes more sense (which again, is what I suspect he wants, roughly 30 to 35% for the rich, I think the 0% will stand. The corporate might just be set at 25%). He's low/highballing every policies he gets out. I can bet that his next move will be medical care and he'll do the exact same thing. Offer something too big knowing that congress will water it down to the point he actually wants it to be.
He manage to get all the racist and bigot under his spell with his wall and deportation thing. So now they'll vote for him no matter how moderate he becomes.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Patlal]
#22307938 - 09/29/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pat, you are one of the few who get it. Others are blind because of jealousy since they could not compete with the Donald. All politicians are crooked pieces of crap, we need a non politician businessman to fix things. Not an ivory tower idiot liberal, not a deluded commie and certainly not a self serving crooked bitch. We need trump.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Patlal] 1
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zappaisgod said: No. I would have called him a lying idiot.
What do you Trump dick riders put the odds of this ever passing Comgress at? I would firmly establish odds of a billion to one.
I think by now you should have been smart enough to know what Trump is doing...
He know that congress will water down everything he proposes. Why do you think his proposition are so extreme to begin with? The guy is a negotiator. When he says he want to deport everybody, he knows congress will simply allow the bad ones to go and naturalize the others (which I strongly suspect that's exactly what trump wants.
As for his massive tax cuts, he says 0, 10, 15 and 25% +15% corporate. Again, he's fully aware that congress will water it down and increase these numbers to what makes more sense (which again, is what I suspect he wants, roughly 30 to 35% for the rich, I think the 0% will stand. The corporate might just be set at 25%). He's low/highballing every policies he gets out. I can bet that his next move will be medical care and he'll do the exact same thing. Offer something too big knowing that congress will water it down to the point he actually wants it to be.
He manage to get all the racist and bigot under his spell with his wall and deportation thing. So now they'll vote for him no matter how moderate he becomes.
I know exactly what he is doing. Avoiding any serious consideration of real issues and instead making promises he can't keep in order to sucker in investors. He has done it his whole life. Don't forget, I have been well aware of this cunt for several decades. He is what he is and the leopard's spots don't change.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Stonehenge]
#22307962 - 09/29/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Pat, you are one of the few who get it. Others are blind because of jealousy since they could not compete with the Donald. All politicians are crooked pieces of crap, we need a non politician businessman to fix things. Not an ivory tower idiot liberal, not a deluded commie and certainly not a self serving crooked bitch. We need trump.
Trump is no less crooked and is not a conservative
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/28/trump-hey-lets-tax-the-wealthy/
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Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–”
Scott Pelley: Universal health care.
Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.
Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably–
Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Donald Trump: –the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: zappaisgod]
#22307999 - 09/29/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was really surprised on his stance for single payer health care
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: zappaisgod]
#22308020 - 09/29/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Zap is against everyone and in favor of no one. He will stay home and let the liberals vote for him. Let your jealousy go, he is on a higher level than you will ever be. He could be dead broke today and in a couple years have more money than you made in your whole life.
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Re: Trump just announced his tax policy: Read it here [Re: Stonehenge]
#22308033 - 09/29/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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In a world without cops, Donald Trump would make zappaisgod his bitch.
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zappaisgod
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#22308049 - 09/29/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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In a world without inheritances Trump would be living on the street as a busker and flim flam man.
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