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Grapefruit
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UG Krishnamurti, Aleister Crowley, and the three Aeons.
#22302357 - 09/28/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The authenticity of Crowley's magickal practices and the insight that was revealed to him through them is for you to be the judge of and not me. I am not interested here in winning you around to this point of view I have of late stumbled into, but simply describing it to you so that you may make whatever sense or non sense of it you will.
This point of view is a way of looking at the world that has been influenced both through Crowley and UGK's teachings. I am a novice to this and just going from what I've read and to some extent believe.
First of all it is necessary to explain what the three Aeons are, there is no better way to do that than by copying the Wikipedia entry.
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Aeon of Isis
The first Aeon of Isis was maternal, where the female aspect of the Godhead was revered due to a mostly matriarchal society and the idea that "Mother Earth" nourished, clothed and housed man closed in the womb of Matrix. It was characterized by pagan worship of the Mother and Nature. In his Equinox of the Gods Crowley describes this period as "simple, quiet, easy, and pleasant; the material ignores the spiritual" (Equinox of the Gods).[citation needed]
Lon Milo DuQuette remarked that this aeon was "the Age of the Great Goddess", and that it had originated in prehistory, reaching its zenith at "approximately 2400 B.C." Continuing with this idea, he remarked that this period was when "the cult of the Great Goddess" was truly universal. She was worshipped by countless cultures under myriad names and forms. It would also be a mistake for us to conclude that the magical formula of this period manifested exclusively through the worship of any particular anthropomorphic female deity. For, like every aeon, the magical formula of the Aeon of Isis was founded upon mankind's interpretation of the 'perceived facts' of nature, and our Isian-age progenitors perceived nature as a continuous process of spontaneous growth."[3] Aeon of Osiris
The classical and medieval Aeon of Osiris is considered to be dominated by the paternal principle and the formula of the Dying God. This Aeon was characterized by that of self-sacrifice and submission to the Father God while man spoke of his father and mother. Crowley says of this Aeon in his Heart of the Master:
Formula of Osiris, whose word is IAO; so that men worshiped Man, thinking him subject to Death, and his victory dependent upon Resurrection. Even so conceived they of the Sun as slain and reborn with every day, and every year.
Crowley also says of the Aeon of Osiris in Equinox of the Gods:
The second [Aeon] is of suffering and death: the spiritual strives to ignore the material. Christianity and all cognate religions worship death, glorify suffering, deify corpses.
Aeon of Horus
The modern Aeon of Horus is portrayed as a time of self-realization as well as a growing interest in all things spiritual, and is considered to be dominated by the principle of the child. The Word of its Law is Thelema (will), which is complemented by Agape (love), and its formula is Abrahadabra. Individuality and finding the individual's True Will are the dominant aspects; its formula is that of growth, in consciousness and love, toward self-realization. Concerning the Aeon of Horus, Crowley wrote:
... the crowned and conquering child, who dieth not, nor is reborn, but goeth radiant ever upon His Way. Even so goeth the Sun: for as it is now known that night is but the shadow of the Earth, so Death is but the shadow of the Body, that veileth his Light from its bearer. (Heart of the Master)[citation needed]
And also, in his Little Essays Toward Truth:
The Aeon of Horus is here: and its first flower may well be this: that, freed of the obsession of the doom of the Ego in Death, and of the limitation of the Mind by Reason, the best men again set out with eager eyes upon the Path of the Wise, the mountain track of the goat, and then the untrodden Ridge, that leads to the ice-gleaming pinnacles of Mastery![citation needed]
Lon Milo DuQuette commented on the connection that the Aeon of Horus had to the Age of Aquarius when he stated that "Yes, [the Aeon of Horus] is coincidental to what astrologers and songwriters call the Age of Aquarius and what millions of others refer to simply as the New Age. But it would be a mistake to view this new aeon simply as another tick on a great cosmic clock. The Age of Aquarius, profoundly significant as it is, is only one aspect of a far greater new spiritual age."[4]
Even if one doesn't believe that the world is split like this it must be admitted the first two aeons do well describe what we know of human history and it's transitions so far. Perhaps he simply looked at the history books and they used that knowledge to fit them into the framework of aeons, I don't know. This is all just theory and conjecture about possibility based on what I've heard.
The link into the third aeon was embodied not only by crowley but also by UG Krishnamurti's teachings. In fact I believe UG is the herald of the new aeon. To one who knows him well he was always saying something like, "A man who acheives enlightenment or arhatship may not be what you expect, he may be a very funny man". I believe that Crowley was the living embodiment of that man.
One other thing he said was "That other man said "thou shall not steal", I am saying "steal but don't get caught"." He said the reason for this was because if we always looked at each other through the eyes of what we had done wrong and through the eyes we did wrong we would always be at war with one another.
Crowley has another excerpt which is very important to this theory and was something UG was constantly stressing.
"There are many magical teachers but in recorded history we have scarcely had a dozen Magi in the technical sense of the word. They may be recognized by the fact that their message may be formulated as a single word, which word must be such that it overturns all existing beliefs and codes. We may take as instances the Word of Buddha-Anatta (absence of an atman or soul), which laid its axe to the root of Hindu cosmology, theology and psychology, and incidentally knocked away the foundation of the caste system; and indeed of all accepted morality."
What I am saying here is that UG WAS that teacher whose teaching was given by a single word. He is the one who is saying "Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law". He is the one who is laying his axe to the whole of our religious and atheistic divisions.
Another thing we must consider is that almost all of these great men, like Jesus, or like Socrates, have been persecuted in their time. UG is a man with very few youtube views in our time and most people hate him. In my opinion, this is because he is overturning the entrenched values we have that were laid out by Buddha, or by Jesus, or by Socrates and so on. He said that a man like Ramana or like Buddha creates an effect that happens slowly and changes the culture, it's like a ripple.
“Those who are able to see beyond the shadows and lies of their culture will never be understood, let alone believed, by the masses.” - Plato
He also often said this same thing, that basically reality works like that. One original man who is completely enlightened comes along and uproots the whole value system and that was put there by the last man like that and another value system is created out of that even though essentially that man is not saying anything. He was saying that basically that's what nature does and that's what it will do until we are all buddhas and so on, and then we are freed from illusion, from the devil.
-------------------- Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. "Chat your fraff Chat your fraff Just chat your fraff Chat your fraff"
Edited by Grapefruit (09/28/15 11:28 AM)
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DividedQuantum
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Re: UG Krishnamurti, Aleister Crowley, and the three Aeons. [Re: Grapefruit]
#22302440 - 09/28/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good stuff. 
Both Crowley and Krishnamurti were perfectly good people. I don't think there is a single instance in history of the best people not having a very hard time. They are usually completely misunderstood and vilified. I'd say this is a perfectly constructive pursuit for you, Grapefruit.
-------------------- Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici
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champinhom
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Re: UG Krishnamurti, Aleister Crowley, and the three Aeons. [Re: Grapefruit] 1
#22302534 - 09/28/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess it is OK to look at the world through this lens or that--Jesus Lens, Crowley lens. For me, however, that is getting old. I am the world. I want to look at it, so to speak, through the lens of Being.
-------------------- My father used to say: I don't care what else you do in life, just don't be an asshole. People, forgive me when I forget what my daddy said. Cut back the proliferating list of people whose opinions can hurt you. Unless they have done or want to do you some good, their views are just not worth tracking. Saul Bellow “People are just cannibals unless they leave each other alone.” Doris Lessing Those whom the gods would save, they dower with compassion. Mr. P. Silocybin
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Grapefruit
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Re: UG Krishnamurti, Aleister Crowley, and the three Aeons. [Re: champinhom]
#22302794 - 09/28/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Easy to say, not so easy to do. IMO If you could really do that you would not be on the shroomery. You would shine out like a star. You would be a man of the people for the people. Freed from the chains of the pleasure seeking and soaring like an angel. The shroomery is a place where us cowards lurk, we are in hiding from the absolute.
-------------------- Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. "Chat your fraff Chat your fraff Just chat your fraff Chat your fraff"
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champinhom
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Re: UG Krishnamurti, Aleister Crowley, and the three Aeons. [Re: Grapefruit]
#22303988 - 09/28/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: Easy to say, not so easy to do. IMO If you could really do that you would not be on the shroomery. You would shine out like a star. You would be a man of the people for the people. Freed from the chains of the pleasure seeking and soaring like an angel. The shroomery is a place where us cowards lurk, we are in hiding from the absolute.
hahaha hahaha
I am laughing but in my heart I am saying, "How did he know?!"
-------------------- My father used to say: I don't care what else you do in life, just don't be an asshole. People, forgive me when I forget what my daddy said. Cut back the proliferating list of people whose opinions can hurt you. Unless they have done or want to do you some good, their views are just not worth tracking. Saul Bellow “People are just cannibals unless they leave each other alone.” Doris Lessing Those whom the gods would save, they dower with compassion. Mr. P. Silocybin
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champinhom
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Re: UG Krishnamurti, Aleister Crowley, and the three Aeons. [Re: Grapefruit]
#22304023 - 09/28/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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and yet (there is always a "and yet") it takes a more or less full allotment of cojones to do LSD or mushrooms--repeatedly (notice I indicated a part of the anatomy consierably lower than what it would take a full allotment of NOT to do them in that way).I'm sure you know what I mean.
-------------------- My father used to say: I don't care what else you do in life, just don't be an asshole. People, forgive me when I forget what my daddy said. Cut back the proliferating list of people whose opinions can hurt you. Unless they have done or want to do you some good, their views are just not worth tracking. Saul Bellow “People are just cannibals unless they leave each other alone.” Doris Lessing Those whom the gods would save, they dower with compassion. Mr. P. Silocybin
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