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Re: Did Ram Dass really give his guru a 10-strip to no effect? [Re: endogenous]
    #21139571 - 01/18/15 03:54 PM (9 years, 30 days ago)

That description has no relevance to eastern spirituality. In fact it sounds like exactly what it is: a neurotic westerner being given LSD psychotherapy.


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Re: Did Ram Dass really give his guru a 10-strip to no effect? [Re: endogenous]
    #21140048 - 01/18/15 05:29 PM (9 years, 30 days ago)

To the contrary, I think that the techniques of "meditation" sound alot like what the person in the article was doing. He was focusing all of his attention in one direction. Like what people do when they focus on breathing.

If a person made that the main focus of their life (as the "gurus" do) - outside of the "spiritual-religious" context - they would be considered obsessive-compulsive.


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Re: Did Ram Dass really give his guru a 10-strip to no effect? [Re: endogenous]
    #21140551 - 01/18/15 07:00 PM (9 years, 30 days ago)

According to Ram Dass, if Maharaj-Ji was "obsessive compulsive" about anything, as you want to describe it, it would be pure unconditional love. That's the main thing with maharaji and the guru. Pure unconditional infinite love.

I'm sure there are some spiritual leaders who do fall into that obsessive compulsive trap and become focused on only one way to achieve enlightenment or whatever you want to call it, but I don't think Maharaj-Ji was one of those types. At least the way he comes across in Be Here Now, seems like the real deal.


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Re: Did Ram Dass really give his guru a 10-strip to no effect? [Re: endogenous]
    #21141194 - 01/18/15 08:16 PM (9 years, 30 days ago)

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endogenous said:
To the contrary, I think that the techniques of "meditation" sound alot like what the person in the article was doing. He was focusing all of his attention in one direction. Like what people do when they focus on breathing.

If a person made that the main focus of their life (as the "gurus" do) - outside of the "spiritual-religious" context - they would be considered obsessive-compulsive.




Well, you can criticize meditation all you want, but it looks like it pays off:

visual perceptions, eyes open; visual perceptions, eyes closed; and rapture and bliss sections from... Jack Kornfield, "Intensive Insight Meditation: A Phenomenological Study," The Journal of Transpersonal Psychology, vol. 11, no. 1, 1979
Source: Journal of Transpersonal Psychology Archives









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Re: Did Ram Dass really give his guru a 10-strip to no effect? [Re: endogenous]
    #21141339 - 01/18/15 08:47 PM (9 years, 30 days ago)

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Doesn't play - gives the "video was removed" message.



When I typed that, it was still playable.
















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Re: Did Ram Dass really give his guru a 10-strip to no effect? [Re: LySergic D]
    #22301141 - 09/28/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Personally, im more susceptible to bug out on lower doses. The higher i dose, the less likely of a bad trip of sorts. At high doses, i dont even know what negativity is. I only feel positive vibes. Though i dont look at bad trips as being bad. I look at them as learning experiences and usually learn something new about myself.




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Re: Did Ram Dass really give his guru a 10-strip to no effect? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #22301149 - 09/28/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ha.


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