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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: shroominated]
    #22332697 - 10/04/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well, yeah.


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #22333877 - 10/04/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's for the shit that you have no control over....not things like dishes. And it works. Not that a higher being necessarily steers it in any direction, but people stress over shit that they have no control over all the time. Which doesn't help. Turning it over to any higher power = letting it be; letting whatever happens happen & accepting it. There's a lot of freedom in that. If you don't believe in any gods all it is would be admitting that whatever it is that's bugging is out of your control & accepting it.


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #22333906 - 10/04/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

In knowing you have absolutely no control; you can either find Peril, or Peace
God Bless


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: shroominated] * 1
    #22334000 - 10/04/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The universe displays qualities. Everything that is, has something before it. Cause and effect.
God is the initial cause.
The universe fits together like a puzzle, more complex and intricate than anything could. The initial cause, caused it. Thats God.
Think about the energy splitting an atom unleashes. How many thousands of nukes is that worth ? Now think how many atoms there are in existence....:smile: That power came from the initial cause. We call that God.
In the universe there is free will and intelligience...Guess where it came from ? God...
Infinity exists, and that is God.
The truth exists, and that is God.

You are not God, you are a creation of God. So perhaps in a way you are part of God, but God is not a part of you.

Just look around and think to yourself. What is this? (your experience)


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I have a relationship with nature.
I make love to her, but is it enough?
I solemnly swear to love her everyday.
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I squashed a dragonfly and saw it writhing in pain.
Ayahuasca taught me to feel what others do.
I felt what it felt in that instance.
I felt disgusted. I partially hate myself for it.
I think Im turning vegan, man.


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22335461 - 10/05/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Dark_Star said:
It's for the shit that you have no control over....not things like dishes. And it works. Not that a higher being necessarily steers it in any direction, but people stress over shit that they have no control over all the time. Which doesn't help. Turning it over to any higher power = letting it be; letting whatever happens happen & accepting it. There's a lot of freedom in that. If you don't believe in any gods all it is would be admitting that whatever it is that's bugging is out of your control & accepting it.




I think you're hitting it on the head.
I have grown up with a largely religious family. The main theme is pretty much what you said, whether it be to a chaotic unpredictable universe or to a omniscient and omnipresent being, the sum is the same.
There is no control.


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: Tropism]
    #22336497 - 10/05/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It would say it's a way of dodging responsibility. Things are going to happen whether you want them to or not. Enjoy the good and endure the bad. Nothing is eternal.


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #22338245 - 10/05/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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LunarEclipse said:
God knows you were only putting him on, therefore he let your dishes stack up, and didn't take care of your yard like he would a true believer.




In my experience it is the other way around..

I am Adam and i go about life in a generally simplistic way..and when my thoughts get complex i simply follow them and wish all the people ive thought of and encounter a Mary Christmas so to speak..

And on the other hand..my true encounter with God is that I am the Creator(This type of thing is quoted in the Gnostic scriptures..) and since I created God..and she fulfills the archetype of the Creator as a Moral and categorical imperative she then has problems interacting with me in the way because we both claim to be the Creator(I found this out on Ayahuasca)

So in the long run most of the comments about God are that she is omnipotent and omniscient and works in mysterious ways..

The founding principle is to imagine either something or someone greater than yourself and that is always specifically fulfilled in God the One and Eternal..

I had a dream that God came out of a UFO and Handed me a Type of Bubble or Spherical Stone, which may or may not be the philosophers stone..And when she handed it to me..a persons voice said: All of life is a miracle.

And in dream code you get All of..which contains the sounded out name of God in Islam..or Allah..

So after she said that the orb or stone so to speak absorbed everything in the dream in total including the figure of God..which was covered in this blurry form of pixelated stars..

In the phrase we get: Life is..which in dream speak is Lie, Fiz..which is what the orb did..at first it was in a perfect position or Lie..and then what it did was Fiz..or Fizzle everything in the dream itself..

Also in further dream speak which confuses the whole point of who indeed is the Creator..is A Miracle..or in DS: Am here, Rack All..or Rack Cull..
Which is what the Orb represents..either that Allah is the Creator or I am in that it shows the true power of the philosophers stone can event absorb a body of God! Rack is kind of random..just that it racked up as in absorbed everything..dreams can be kind of random..and sometimes only prophets can really attain the knowledge of dream interpretation..And Rack Cull..shows that the stone performs a type of cull de sac;

Just to not..I had another dream where i was in a Variety store..and i was browsing the news paper stand..I went to bring something up to the Clerk and he opened his mouth and there was an abyss and what lied in the middle of his mouth abyss was a single blotter of Pink Acid..

Ultimately the clerk then turned into God..of the same form..So the curiosity of him disappearing in the first dream..definitely showed the true power of God..because he wasnt completely removed in real life..but found a way to come back..


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #22338327 - 10/05/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If I told u my experiences which made me believe, u would find a way to discredit them. But they are more real to me than anything. If I told you that if your heart was open enough He just may show you something you can believe too, you just might try.
There is more
-Higher Love-


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: Higher Love]
    #22338375 - 10/05/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Higher Love said:
If I told u my experiences which made me believe, u would find a way to discredit them. But they are more real to me than anything. If I told you that if your heart was open enough He just may show you something you can believe too, you just might try.
There is more
-Higher Love-




Could you share your beliefs here ? I am quite interested!


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I have a relationship with nature.
I make love to her, but is it enough?
I solemnly swear to love her everyday.
_____________________________________________________
I squashed a dragonfly and saw it writhing in pain.
Ayahuasca taught me to feel what others do.
I felt what it felt in that instance.
I felt disgusted. I partially hate myself for it.
I think Im turning vegan, man.


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: Nature-lad]
    #22338486 - 10/05/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have a very personal and active relationship with the God of the universe. He sent His Son, Jesus Christ, for me and for all. He who made, and who Is, the Universe lives in and thru me. This is what I have come to believe. My life reflects this.
I think for myself and have a very free life. I love and accept as many people as I can. I am not a 'monk' or crazy religious monotone person. I am spontaneous, joyful and sane. Honestly, I despise religion.
God is alive and active thru all and He/it did not make us to follow a set of rules. Follow your hearts and you will find love. you will find God.


P.s. I say 'God' because we all understand the intent with this word. Substitute whatever u want to call Him. Call Him what U want, He does not mind =)


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: Higher Love]
    #22340407 - 10/06/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

are you sure the supreme is a male and are u sure its a Christian are you sure your connected?


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InvisibleTropism
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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: shroominated]
    #22341094 - 10/06/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Of course he's sure, he has the fail-safe of knowing anyone who disagrees simply doesn't have an "open enough" heart.
Oh well, I'll just keep using his name in vain then.


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: Tropism]
    #22341103 - 10/06/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Tropism said:
Of course he's sure, he has the fail-safe of knowing anyone who disagrees simply doesn't have an "open enough" heart.
Oh well, I'll just keep using his name in vain then.



:smugjerry:


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: topdog82]
    #22341133 - 10/06/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:highfive:


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: Nature-lad]
    #22341863 - 10/06/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Re nature lad said  "God is the initial cause."
did you hear yourself?????
WTF is "initial cause"
and before that was??????????????????????
let me guess a paralyzed mind
afraid of questions that don't have answers
and so which settles for  a cheap, one size fits all, meaningless answer


Edited by laughingdog (10/06/15 08:53 PM)


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: laughingdog]
    #22346450 - 10/07/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Absurd!

It was good for me.
:itwasgoodforme:


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: laughingdog]
    #22351573 - 10/08/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

laughingdog said:
Re nature lad said  "God is the initial cause."
did you hear yourself?????
WTF is "initial cause"
and before that was??????????????????????
let me guess a paralyzed mind
afraid of questions that don't have answers
and so which settles for  a cheap, one size fits all, meaningless answer




The cause and effect machinery of the universe. 1 cog turns another which turns another. Attraction between atoms causes them to stick. Every cause has an effect and every effect has a cause. If you trace it back like a family tree there will be one initial cause. God. But you cant limit God to just calling God a cause. God is more than that, the word does not do God justice.


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_____________________________________________________
I have a relationship with nature.
I make love to her, but is it enough?
I solemnly swear to love her everyday.
_____________________________________________________
I squashed a dragonfly and saw it writhing in pain.
Ayahuasca taught me to feel what others do.
I felt what it felt in that instance.
I felt disgusted. I partially hate myself for it.
I think Im turning vegan, man.


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: Nature-lad]
    #22352514 - 10/08/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Everything does not necessarily fit together in a neat system of interlocking
Cause and effects, nor has it been shown that it does.


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: Nature-lad]
    #22352567 - 10/08/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Nature-lad said:
The cause and effect machinery of the universe. 1 cog turns another which turns another. Attraction between atoms causes them to stick. Every cause has an effect and every effect has a cause. If you trace it back like a family tree there will be one initial cause. God. But you cant limit God to just calling God a cause. God is more than that, the word does not do God justice.



I'm sorry to say this but I feel it's people like you talking about 'God' and the cause of the universe with such absolute certainty that cause most of the problems in this world.

Get real man. You might 'feel' that this is the way this stuff works, but stop coming off like it's fact.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: Letting Go and Letting God [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22361271 - 10/10/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
Quote:

Nature-lad said:
The cause and effect machinery of the universe. 1 cog turns another which turns another. Attraction between atoms causes them to stick. Every cause has an effect and every effect has a cause. If you trace it back like a family tree there will be one initial cause. God. But you cant limit God to just calling God a cause. God is more than that, the word does not do God justice.



I'm sorry to say this but I feel it's people like you talking about 'God' and the cause of the universe with such absolute certainty that cause most of the problems in this world.

Get real man. You might 'feel' that this is the way this stuff works, but stop coming off like it's fact.




Well I dont think youre being just at all!
How do you know how much thought and pondering has gone into this ?
Do you have any idea how many times ive gone over the same thoughts repeatedly ?
Did you know that I continue to ask myself the very same questions searching for new possibilities and answers?

But I can say that I am certain enough to try to devote my free will to the direction God wishes it. I say try because I make mistakes but I repent and I fix.

The idea my friend is that humans should work together. My beliefs tell me that. That humans should work together, use empathy. Thats why I am told to care for orphans and like individuals. Thats why Im told to give charity to those who need it. These two aspects are a minimal part of the whole but I wont drone on.

Squash the closed mindedness fellow man.

And please do not offend me by saying Its people like me that cause most of the problems in the world. Do you understand the gravity of that statement ? You are calling me; One who questions whether I am in the right direction constantly; Who has decided to devote their life to all of creation. You're calling someonen like that a trouble maker on Earth.

My friend out of both of us you are the one causing more trouble at the momement. I was just disclosing my observations. If you have something intellectual to add I am all ears.


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I have a relationship with nature.
I make love to her, but is it enough?
I solemnly swear to love her everyday.
_____________________________________________________
I squashed a dragonfly and saw it writhing in pain.
Ayahuasca taught me to feel what others do.
I felt what it felt in that instance.
I felt disgusted. I partially hate myself for it.
I think Im turning vegan, man.


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