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caapi cuttings
    #22300820 - 09/27/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)





I have these 3 caapi cuttings planted in some cheap soil i bought today, to try to root them. I have them just sitting inside. Will these conditions be ok? and is there any tips/info yall could give me on growing these?


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: 404]
    #22301399 - 09/28/15 05:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i have no idea why it says that for you for me it shows they are still up i guess ill just edit it and add pictures again when i get home


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Kenneth]
    #22301551 - 09/28/15 07:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Did you treat them with (root-tone) or any rooting hormone?.

I suggest a humidity tent. If you do not have such equipment.. you can put the pot in a plastic vegetable bag from the supermarket (clear). spray the inside of the bag, and put the pot (with moist but not wet soil), on the inside. Give it a location with good light, or window sill.. and check every few days. Positive signs will be leaflets showing up at node joints. Most plants will start setting roots and growing in a couple weeks. Woody stemmed plants and trees however can take a lot longer than that. Fruit trees like Plums, apples etc (can take), up to several months to set root. Be patient. . but also be vigilant. be aware of where the stems meet the soil and keep an eye out for MOLD. Mold can be the big killer, while trying to root cuttings.

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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #22304368 - 09/28/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Funny you should post this. I just started some as well. I did some in a glass of water, and some in soil. My fastest one was from the water batch, and shot out roots about 3-4 in long in a week or so. It's in soil now and shooting out a little leaf now. The trickiest part for me was trying to figure out which way was up and down on the sticks.... Some of them, I'm still not sure I have oriented the right way...


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22309684 - 09/29/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Same here about having trouble figuring out which end to plant, i just guessed and hoped i was right to be honest. Also did your soil cuttings grow decently? I haven't had the cuttings in sun light, I was going to wait until they started to grow roots until I did. Should i do it now instead? I cut the tops off some water bottles and placed them over the cuttings as a humidity dome a few days ago heres some pictures,


 


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Kenneth]
    #22310181 - 09/29/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So far the only other action I have noticed from them is another one in the water has a tiny root on it and is trying to spit out a little leaf. Maybe the soil ones are doing something under the dirt where I can't see, but nothing visible on them yet. Maybe I ought to try a dome with one of them just to play it safe, but so far I'm treating em like I did with my salvia and just telling them they better get used to my humidity or else...:lol:


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22310267 - 09/29/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Lmao i wasn't gonna use a humidity dome but then i thought how i really don't want to risk killing them, better safe than sorry:tongue: Did you give them light when you were rooting?


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Kenneth]
    #22310292 - 09/29/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They were in a glass on the windowsill in the kitchen that gets a little light, although it isn't the sunniest window. The soil ones have been sitting under my flouro tubes since they were put in their pots.


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22310435 - 09/29/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

oh ok i'll probaly put them in a front of a window then


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Kenneth]
    #22314690 - 09/30/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldn't give them a lot of light right now.


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22317584 - 10/01/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've got some caapi cuttings on the way myself. From what I've gathered about getting caapi cuttings started:

-keep them in low light
-water or damp soil is fine, keep soil moist
-within 1-3 weeks roots will be formed and then followed by new shoots
-caapi is fairly adaptable to different environments as far as humidity goes, but if your cuttings are from a more humid environment then you will want to mist your plant as it grows accustomed to the new pad

and from another thread..

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caapi roots from the nodes so you need to make sure that at least one node and preferably two has contact with soil so that can happen. I like to take L shaped cuttings for this reason.

They like a bit of heat and humidity.





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think id be better off in a jar with water?





Absolutely. Less chance of rot. Water will keep it well hydrated too.

I got some Caapi cutting in a trade some time ago, tried soil - nothing.

Put them in water - roots. But they ended up dying from me messing with them too much.

Totally go water.
No lid, needs to breathe.




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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: pixelpopper]
    #22318419 - 10/01/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've had worse luck with water. Roots can form anywhere, from nodes, cut ends, etc. Shoots though only seem to come from nodes.


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22318441 - 10/01/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I've had worse luck with water. Roots can form anywhere, from nodes, cut ends, etc. Shoots though only seem to come from nodes.





Good to know.. always interesting how different methods work best for different people


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: pixelpopper]
    #22320340 - 10/01/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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pixelpopper said:
I've got some caapi cuttings on the way myself. From what I've gathered about getting caapi cuttings started:

-keep them in low light
-water or damp soil is fine, keep soil moist
-within 1-3 weeks roots will be formed and then followed by new shoots
-caapi is fairly adaptable to different environments as far as humidity goes, but if your cuttings are from a more humid environment then you will want to mist your plant as it grows accustomed to the new pad

and from another thread..

Quote:

naum said:
caapi roots from the nodes so you need to make sure that at least one node and preferably two has contact with soil so that can happen. I like to take L shaped cuttings for this reason.

They like a bit of heat and humidity.





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1234go said:
Quote:

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think id be better off in a jar with water?





Absolutely. Less chance of rot. Water will keep it well hydrated too.

I got some Caapi cutting in a trade some time ago, tried soil - nothing.

Put them in water - roots. But they ended up dying from me messing with them too much.

Totally go water.
No lid, needs to breathe.






Thanks for the input pixelpopper, and welcome to the forum!


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22321703 - 10/01/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Thanks for the input pixelpopper, and welcome to the forum!



Thanks! I actually was on here pretty regularly about 15 years ago, but i can't seem to remember/find my username from back then so i started a new one. Good to be back though, shoulda never left!


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: pixelpopper]
    #22322336 - 10/02/15 06:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just came across this thread and figured I'd share it here as there is lots of great info/tips:

B. Caapi growers unite!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19320976/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: pixelpopper]
    #22337893 - 10/05/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Good link. I know I've seen that thread before, but never really went through it since I didn't have a caapi at the time. Thanks for reminding me about it.


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22343225 - 10/06/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for all the useful info. I have removed two cuttings from soil to each a cup of water and left one in soil just to see how it goes. A little experiment i guess to see what works best for me.


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Kenneth]
    #22344095 - 10/07/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've got 3 cuttings in water right now. Went ahead and added some rooting hormone since I have it, although I'm not really sure that stuff helps much. I always want to put my cuttings in soil/verm as I've read this is the better/healthier way to root cuttings, but it seems like I always get great results with water.

Hope to see some new growth soon  :dancer:


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: pixelpopper]
    #22344271 - 10/07/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If you use water change it every day


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22345320 - 10/07/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

and why is that?


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Kenneth]
    #22345514 - 10/07/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

To slow down rot. The water gets dirty very fast and rot will eat up the cuttings. I had a lot of trouble with that even after putting a little peroxide in the water


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22345611 - 10/07/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

oh ok that makes sense. Would you recommend having something hold up the cutting off the bottom of the cup or does this matter?
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I've bad luck with chemicals.

I told the owner of an ethnosupply place that I had rotted several cuttings. He told me his secret was to aerate the water, using an aquarium bubbler. It's my understanding that a clear tube goes from the air pump to a piece of pumice-like stone.

I like this idea, because it's harmless and could be cheap.



I found this and was wondering if a air pump would help? because I have one just laying around I could use if so.


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Kenneth]
    #22345661 - 10/07/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Try the air pump


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22347097 - 10/07/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Don't worry about trying to keep the ends up off the bottom of the cup or trying to prop em up while they are in the water. I'll have to post a pic, but since I posted in here last, 2 more of my water rooting sticks are popping out roots.

Definitely try the air stone. I use it for rooting salvia clones, not like they need it, but it really oxygenates the water well and seems to help with root development. Seems like it stalls out rot and funk in the water, too. I'm sure it's not necessary, but it won't hurt at all. :thumbup:


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22348081 - 10/07/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I believe all 3 of mine are showing the starts of roots also, no air stone here


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: pixelpopper]
    #22361745 - 10/11/15 04:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hows everyone's cuttings doing? Mine are still just showing the very beginnings of some roots, considering transplanting them all to soil now


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Re: caapi cuttings [Re: pixelpopper]
    #22384986 - 10/15/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I got caught up with some stuff I had to take care of and still haven't got around to potting up the rooted ones I have in water. On a couple of them, the roots are like 4 or 5 inches long and are sprouting leaves.... I really need to get those things in some soil asap


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