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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22308433 - 09/29/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You really got it wrong calling people excitable about it.
The only alarmist here is you, with your warning about a punk coming to my house. What the fuck was that about anyway?

It's just another fact, like it was a full moon yesterday, there's a comet with a robot on it, and a giant ass vulcano will have more power than a relatively small vulcano.


What is wrong with you? Have you looked shit up like I asked?
You're being incredibly childish here, you're the equivilant of some creationist fucktard that wants proof of evolution, and you throw a fucking library at them, which they ignore and then they tell you there is no proof.

Are you trolling or something? Jesus.
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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22308765 - 09/29/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dude you obviously don't understand the difference between a volcano and a SUPER volcano. yellowstone is a supervolcano. We have never in recorded history endured a super volcano eruption and when we do it will make any volcanic eruption in recorded history look TINY by comparison.

What you are saying is something like "I have seen lots of shooting stars and they never did any damage, why would I worry about an asteroid?" and then a mile long asteroid made of iron slams into the earth and destroys it.

The sad thing is I don't think you are trolling, which means you are actually in a really bad state intellectually.

The post below shows the relationship in size between the mount st. Helens eruption and a yellowstone super eruption. Its many orders of magnitude bigger.


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22308802 - 09/29/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

"If the supervolcano underneath Yellowstone National Park ever had another massive eruption, it could spew ash for thousands of miles across the United States, damaging buildings, smothering crops, and shutting down power plants. It'd be a huge disaster.

In September 2014, a team of scientists published a paper in Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems exploring what a Yellowstone super-eruption might actually look like.

Among other things, they found the volcano was capable of burying states like Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and Colorado in three feet of harmful volcanic ash — a mix of splintered rock and glass — and blanket the Midwest. That much ash could kill plants and animals, crush roofs, and short all sorts of electrical equipment:

catastrophic "super-eruptions." A super-eruption is anything that measures magnitude 8 or more on the Volcano Explosivity Index, in which at least 1,000 cubic kilometers (or 240 cubic miles) of material gets ejected. That's enough to bury Texas five feet deep.

These super-eruptions are thousands of times more powerful than even the biggest eruptions we're used to. Here's a chart from USGS comparing the Yellowstone super-eruptions with the Mt. St. Helens eruption of 1980. The difference is staggering:



And what if we did get a super-eruption — an event that was 1,000 times more powerful than a regular volcanic eruption, ejected at least 240 cubic miles of material, and lasted weeks or months? The lava flows themselves would be contained within a relatively small radius within the park — say, 40 miles or so. In fact, only about one-third of the material would actually make it up into the atmosphere.

The main damage would come from volcanic ash — a combination of splintered rock and glass — that was ejected miles into the air and scattered around the country. In their new paper, Lowenstern and his colleagues looked at both historical ash deposits and advanced modeling to conclude that an eruption would create an umbrella cloud, expanding even in all directions. (This was actually a surprising finding.)

A super-eruption could conceivably bury the northern Rockies in three feet of ash — devastating large swaths of Wyoming, Idaho, Colorado, Montana, and Utah. Meanwhile, the Midwest would get a few inches of ash

Any of those scenarios would be terrible news. That much volcanic ash is capable of killing people, plants, and animals and crushing buildings. Even a few inches of ash (which is what much of the country can get) can destroy farms, clog roadways, cause serious respiratory problems, block sewer lines, and even short out transformers. Air travel would have to shut down across much of North America."

http://www.vox.com/2014/9/5/6108169/yellowstone-supervolcano-eruption


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22309012 - 09/29/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Your quote is full of "if" "could" "might" and so on. Do you know what causes massive ejection of material? It takes gas to do that. Where is the gas coming from? This is on a par with your giant asteroid scenario which also is not going to happen.

>The sad thing is I don't think you are trolling, which means you are actually in a really bad state intellectually.

So if people don't believe the sky is falling they are in a bad state? I think the chicken littles who do believe it are in a bad state. Try taking some deep breaths, you might feel better.

We have seismology and tools which can give us much info on the state of things below the surface. Any sort of condition that might eventually lead to a super explosion would be seen long in advance. Nothing remotely like that has been found. In a million years it may happen or may never happen. Why do you insist on worrying about it now?


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22309051 - 09/29/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When you say "asteroid is not going to happen" you are again revealing yourself to be completely delusional. We have been hit by asteroids countless times through earth's history and will be countless times again.

You have declared yourself to be fully and completely delusional and ignorant of science. I think I have spent enough time trying to bring you up to speed on 20th century science.

Good luck, and enjoy your blissful ignorance! I won't lie, I envy you your ability to believe well known scientific inevitability will never happen.

Remember, ignorance may be bliss, but knowledge is power.

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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22309102 - 09/29/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I did not say asteroids never hit or that volcanoes never happen. Lol, you are getting desperate. I said the likelihood of a big one is infinitesimal. As for asteroids, we have telescopes that see them coming. All the big ones have been tracked for years and are no threat. So you turned your sky-is-falling attention to Yellowstone because its underground and therefore mysterious. Here is what the scientists say about it.

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/yellowstone_sub_page_49.html

"QUESTION: What is the chance of another catastrophic volcanic eruption at Yellowstone? 
ANSWER: Although it is possible, scientists are not convinced that there will ever be another catastrophic eruption at Yellowstone. Given Yellowstone's past history, the yearly probability of another caldera-forming eruption can be approximated as 1 in 730,000 "

Quit trying to generate hysteria.


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22309387 - 09/29/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The chance of yellowstone erupting on any given year is small. the chance of it eventually happening is high. The chance of it happening in our lifetime is low but not knowable.

Although we do track many asteroids there are many we cant see at all, such as those from behind the sun or those with compositions that make them dark. There are many (and could be one on an impact trajectory) that we don't even know exist. yes, we track many, no we do not track all.

The point is if/when yellowstone erupts it will be many orders of magnitude greater then mount st. helens or anything else we have seen, and your comments made it clear you did not understand that, so I am glad you learned something.


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #22309401 - 09/29/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I can name all sorts of things that are bad that will definitely happen eventually. For example, the Earth will probably get hit by a gamma ray burst eventually.


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22309405 - 09/29/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Good point.


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22310042 - 09/29/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I can name all sorts of things that are bad that will definitely happen eventually. For example, the Earth will probably get hit by a gamma ray burst eventually.




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In early youth, as we contemplate our coming life, we are like children in a theatre before the curtain is raised, sitting there in high spirits and eagerly waiting for the play to begin. It is a blessing that we do not know what is really going to happen. Could we foresee it, there are times when children might seem like innocent prisoners, condemned, not to death, but to life, and as yet all unconscious of what their sentence means. Nevertheless, every man desires to reach old age; in other words, a state of life of which it may be said: “It is bad to-day, and it will be worse to-morrow; and so on till the worst of all.”

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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22310059 - 09/29/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

In a few billion years the sun will become a red giant and engulf the earth. Lets all worry about that too.

>Although we do track many asteroids there are many we cant see at all, such as those from behind the sun or those with compositions that make them dark.

"behind the sun"? you do realize don't you that the earth rotates around the sun? We see everything in the solar system. Those dark rocks are visible in other wave lengths as well as by radio telescopes.

>The point is if/when yellowstone erupts it will be many orders of magnitude greater then mount st. Helens

You don't know when or if it will erupt, it may never. You also don't know how powerful it will be. By the time that is a remote possibility, we will have the capability of stopping it. 100 years ago we didn't have machines that could see into the earth. In another 100 years we will have it all figured out. In a few hundred thousand years we will just use the excess energy to power a few cities.


>I am glad you learned something.

I learned a bit about Yellowstone.


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22310100 - 09/29/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Unfortunately you are wrong about our ability to detect all asteroids. We simply don't have total awareness yet and there are asteroids we are blind to that could Potentially be impactors. I wish it were otherwise and no doubt the technology will improve, hopefully in time.


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22310108 - 09/29/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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There are at least thee global catastrophes that can happen at any moment and absolutely will happen eventually with one hundred percent certainty . These are not just possible, they are absolutely inevitable -
These are not theories , these are guaranteed .

1. An earth facing coronal mass ejection/x class flare will cause an emp that will knock out the entire planets power Grid, causing a complete collapse of human civilization and causing numerous nuclear reactors to melt down.

2. An asteroid will impact the earth creating a global extinction event that will devestate life ln earth as happened in the time of the dinosaurs.

3. Yellowstone super volcano /caldera will erupt obliterating most of North america and coating the earth in volcanic dust that will make farming impossible even as it blocks out the sun creating a global winter and massive starvation.

I wish it was not true but all three of these things ARE going to happen , there is Zero debate on this.

As surely as 1+1=2, these three mass extinction events are on their way.

The question is not if, but when.

There is absolutely no guarantee that one or more of these won't happen in the near future. Hopefully we can all live out our lives before these events occur but it's entirely possible they could happen today, with no warning.

Be prepared.

:peace:




1+1=.9999999999999999999

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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Atreyu]
    #22310297 - 09/29/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

But how do we know these things for sure? :strokebeard:


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] * 1
    #22312083 - 09/30/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
In a few billion years the sun will become a red giant and engulf the earth. Lets all worry about that too.





See, I think there lies the problem. You believe people are worrying, when this is not true. It just is, so relax.
Why areyou so affraid of this kind of stuff that you have to push it away?


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But how do we know these things for sure? :strokebeard:




Nothing is knowable. The chemicals in your brain are what tells you you have chemicals in your brain. Everything is uncertain and nothing is quite real, death awaits us all and we'll never figure out the big Mystery.

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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Moonshoe] * 3
    #22312165 - 09/30/15 02:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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When you say "asteroid is not going to happen" you are again revealing yourself to be completely delusional. We have been hit by asteroids countless times through earth's history and will be countless times again.

You have declared yourself to be fully and completely delusional and ignorant of science. I think I have spent enough time trying to bring you up to speed on 20th century science.

Good luck, and enjoy your blissful ignorance! I won't lie, I envy you your ability to believe well known scientific inevitability will never happen.

Remember, ignorance may be bliss, but knowledge is power.

:peace:





man you are full of yourself.


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: 404]
    #22312246 - 09/30/15 02:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So stock up on your supplies and get over it. No need to make this preparation shit your lifestyle or tell others how to prepare, unless of course you're going to own a company that sells this kind of fear and supplies to make it go away. You might actually do really good in that industry.


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: 404]
    #22312273 - 09/30/15 03:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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man you are full of yourself.




That may be, but he isn't wrong.


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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22312291 - 09/30/15 03:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The odds of dying in a car accident are much greater than dying in a global catastrophe.
I recommend bubble wrap.



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Re: Three global catastrophes that WILL happen [Re: Sun King]
    #22312307 - 09/30/15 03:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The odds of dying in a car accident are much greater than dying in a global catastrophe.
I recommend bubble wrap.






Why do you fools keep acting like people are affraid? It doesn't worry me one bit, it's just a fact of life, nothing more.


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