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OfflineThe Other Guy
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My fifth trip - Making the most of the setting
    #22298718 - 09/27/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Date 27/09/15

So it's been a good few months since my last trip, and considering the difficulties experienced that time I was a little apprehensive about what was to come.

In fact I was in two minds about whether to trip or not, as this is picking season and I knew the conditions were right. I'd had a few quick hunts in the previous weeks and seen that it was all kicking off, so felt almost certainly that the picking would be good. And it was as I found out this morning, although I didn't hunt all my best known spots as I decided it was such a beutiful day, I'd eat a few and enjoy the walk.



So almost immediately after getting up on to the moor I found my first few libs, then they kept popping up in front of me. It's strange though, where I expected there to be loads there wasn't, and in other nearby spots where in previous years there'd been no activity at all, there was a great collection of them. Never been able to work this out, but more than happy with what nature can provide. There were plenty of pins too, which I left alone.





So basically most went in the bag, but I ate 5 as I walked along. 'only 5??' I hear you say, but yes I didn't want a repeat of the mind blast I experienced last time, I just wanted a mind opening/relaxing trip, and as I'd pretty much only eaten dried ones before I felt 5 was a good starting point. I've got used to the taste now and although not that pleasant, it's one of those distinctive tastes that reminds you there's good things to come, MDMA being another one (from my past). About an hour after ingestion it I decided to stop picking so I could just enjoy the experience and not have to concentrate on the ground, and be concerned about joggers and farmers. I worked my way off the hill, down towards a wooded river which was flowing strongly. It's not a well walked route so I had the whole area to myself.



It was here that I really started to feel a change, my mind wandered and I started to really appreciate and enjoy my surroundings. I had to climb over and under fallen trunks and was fascinated by the water rushing down the rocks, and the jagged and twisted branches of a tree that appeared to have been struck by lightning or something. I stopped to look at things quite often and felt great joy at being in nature, along with appreciating how lucky I am to live in such a beautiful part of the world. I'd walked this route in the past but it had been a few years so it all felt new and exciting to me.

I followed the river back to where it meets another, then crossed a foot bridge on to a well known route for me. I smiled as I recognised the route and turned my face up to receive the rays of sunshine beaming through the trees.



Eventually out on the open moor again I explored along the river, then turned to head up towards one of the tors I know well. I didn't feel like heading out further, I was quite happy staying where I know the terrain and where I wouldn't be exposed to the wind too much. Unlike last time, I'd come out with ample clothing so I didn't get cold as this had seriously affected my trip before, plus this time the temps were high and wind low so this would work in my favour.

As I neared my destination a single liberty cap appeared in front of me, there were no others around so it was an easy decision to assess my mind state and into my mouth it went. This was approximately 2 hours since eating the first 5. I got to the top of the tor and made a quick video of my surroundings, in the far distance I could hear a bike or loud car heading down a road.

As before, when I was just walking along I was quite happy and everything felt great, it was when I stopped and sat down that things changed. I felt the urge to stop and rest so must have known something was itching to take off, it always feels like it's being held back when I'm walking just to enable me to actually control my body properly, then when I'm resting that part of my brain can take a rest and enjoy the ride.

I got my bag off my back, layed my fleece on the grass which was slightly damp and sat down, back against the tor. No more than a second after sitting down I felt the shift into trip mode. In a strange way it was like day-dreaming, but only like half of me was day-dreaming and the other half having an internal dialogue, very hard to explain. Anyway, I could hear the motorbike still then suddenly became aware that it wasn't the motorbike I could hear, it was as though my mind had played what I'd heard a few minutes before back to me. My thought process suddenly asked the question 'what if that's not a real bike you're hearing', and at that point it became full on tripping for me.

My vision, occasionally blurring picked up movements here and there. I looked up and the clouds were forming shapes, I tracked birds across the sky and sheep across the lower ground in front of me. A few of the sheeps turned to stare at me for what felt like ages, before realising I wasn't a threat and moved on. I looked out across the tree line to my left and distinct faces appeared in the clouds, only briefly mind you, no more than say 5 seconds at a time, but this may have been because I became distracted by yet another cloud or something in my peripheral vision. My heart was beating fast now so I decided to close my eyes and try counting meditation, as this had proved relaxful for me at home when I had been meditating. A few times I got distracted and opened my eyes, but with perseverance I was able to keep going and slow everything down a bit. There were no CEVs at all.

I could hear the birds and turned round to look behind me to see what was going on. A large cotton wool type cloud drifted slowly by with what appeared to be a whispy tail. Funnily enough I took my sunglasses off to see if it looked any different, I knew it shouldn't look like it did, it was after all just a cloud but it was somehow very different to me. Looking over to my right the distant clouds gave a 2D appearance, as did the rocks. Looking back left again I saw the face of my avatar (Belenus) and immediately smiled and said a mental 'hello'. I'm not a religious person at all, but you can read about my first encouter with this vision on my first trip report.

Before I knew it the peak seemed to subside and I came down a level, still enhanced but without the visual distortions and confusing headspace. During this time I was just able to relax and everything just felt neutral. A chaffinch? landed on the tor I was sat on and I was lucky that it stayed there long enough for me to get the camera out of my pocket and get a photo of it.



After a while I started to get a little colder so got up slightly shakily and got my bag back on. I had to check I had everything with me a few times then headed off back down the hill. I reminded myself of the wierd blackout type things that went on last time I got up and started walking whilst still tripping. I took deep breaths and carried out and thankfully the going was fine apart from a few stumbles on small rocks due to me not concentrating on what was in front of me.

Nearing the bridge back into the woods I met a few other walkers and said hello. One of them jokily said to me, 'just when you think you've got all this to yourself loads of people come along', I smiled and replied with 'I knew it was going to be like this on a day like today, but you've got to make the most of it haven't you', she replied along the lines of 'my thoughts exactly'. I was pleased I was able to have a sensible conversation with my fellow walkers and had made the right decision to not eat a stronger dose.

I walked back through the woods, stopping a few times to enjoy the river again, and at mid-day sat down on a fallen trunk to have some fruit. I got home about 5 hours after initially eating the mushrooms and felt tired but glad for the experience.

In summary, once again I'm amazed by the strength of such a small amount, these things really are potent. I'm glad it went well and I was able to really enjoy it this time. In terms of strength, I'd say it was probably on par with my first trip. Certainly in my case setting has a major effect on the results, it's been a beutiful day and this was reflected in my experience. I would still like to explore more deeper trips but not in an outdoor setting by myself, with friends or a trip sitter maybe but if by myself I think it would have to be 1g dried in the house.

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Re: My fifth trip - Making the most of the setting [Re: The Other Guy]
    #22302220 - 09/28/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nice report dude, it is surprising how strong just a few liberty caps can be, potent lil buggers! Love the picture of the cute lil chaffinch, such a beautful place man you're so fortunate to live there.

I think 1g dried at home sounds like a good idea if you wanted to up the dosage. I doubt i'd take more than 1.5g myself outside in nature, any more and it works too well in silent darkness to take them anywhere but at home in my opinion.

I took 1.5g at my sisters place a few weeks ago, no moon, stars out, headphones on, and it was utterly majestic! I think we've probly missed the window for that star gazing camping trip this year, sometime though man :wink:


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Re: My fifth trip - Making the most of the setting [Re: Chronic7]
    #22302477 - 09/28/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Cheers fella, it took me a while to realise our previous connection with your change of username and avatar, shows how long it's been since I've been on this forum.

You're right, it is getting colder now so next years going to be the best bet. We had a bit of a heatwave in spring this year so hopefully we'll get the same next year. I just ordered some more items for my camping kit at the weekend.

The 1.5g trip you describe sounds great, I'm interested to see how different it is doing it in a more personal/safe setting, I reckon part of the problem is me letting go when I'm doing it outside, so with the right setting at home I could set myself up for a more deeper personal experience. Music is a huge part of my life and always has been so I can imagine playing some of my favourite songs/albums could be a magical experience for me.

At that sort of dose, is it a case of sit down and strap in, i.e. dont even consider attempting to get up to change a CD, get a drink of water or whatever. Or is the physicality of it still controllable? I imagine this may come with experience, and I've been thinking about this today, in general was it the correct thing for me to try that meditation whilst peaking, or is this considered trying to take control of the trip which is widely considered an unwise thing to do, rather than just letting go and letting things happen?


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Re: My fifth trip - Making the most of the setting [Re: The Other Guy]
    #22306773 - 09/29/15 06:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Meditation is perfect at anytime in my opinion, although i wouldn't say meditation is trying to control anything really if anything i find  it's quite the opposite, letting go of the need to control and just observing... really just closing your eyes and keeping calm (not thinking too much) is all you need to do i feel, psilocybin should naturally take you into a meditation, all you need to do is relax and it does the rest for you. :wink:

With 1.5g you should still be able to change music, get yourself a glass of water etc... i'm quite sensitive to psychedelics and 1.5g was fine for me either sitting in the garden at home in the sun or stargazing, although i was very cold stargazing! I can see how it could be difficult to totally relax when outdoors as mushrooms make me hyper sensitive to the cold for some reason, also one of the most uncomfortable things to have to deal with when tripping is strangers.

I'm off to Wales next weekend, hopefully the skies will clear and i'll catch the milky way :wink:


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Re: My fifth trip - Making the most of the setting [Re: The Other Guy]
    #22318995 - 10/01/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Good report, well documented. I have never used the mushroom you are talking about here. They don't grow in my area--Midwest USA. I have to grow my own mushrooms. Mostly cubes. gram for gram your mushrooms contain more psilocybin. You are wise to limit yourself to 1 dry gram.

I have a question: Do you notice, with Psilocybe semilanceata, any mid trip falling into a negative, anxious state of mind? a kind of depression that can get pretty vicious and isn't something you can talk yourself out of? It doesn't last to long, but while it is there it is a trip breaker.


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Re: My fifth trip - Making the most of the setting [Re: champinhom]
    #22322887 - 10/02/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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champinhom said:I have a question: Do you notice, with Psilocybe semilanceata, any mid trip falling into a negative, anxious state of mind? a kind of depression that can get pretty vicious and isn't something you can talk yourself out of? It doesn't last to long, but while it is there it is a trip breaker.




To be honest I haven't had much experience with psychedelics and certainly not at moderate to high doses, but no I've not experienced any mid trip depression.

During my fourth trip however there was some trouble which I've put down to bad setting, and this did result in some panicky anxiety type issues, lagging vision, negative thoughts, basically not a comfortable experience at all until towards the end. It's a shame it went that way but I'm grateful for the experience, and it taught me to think about set and setting more, and just gave me the knowledge of what to expect.

I've been thinking, if I hadn't had that difficulty on the fourth trip I may not have enjoyed this latest one so much, which was by far the most enjoyable for me.


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