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OfflineLuueschen
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On the topic of eating flesh
    #22298717 - 09/27/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Eating meat has been a staple of Earthly hominid diets since the paleolithic days. As we grow smarter and more sensitive, we notice the social and conscience-eating implications associated with meat consumption...as well as the environmental problems.

Personally I wouldn't have a problem eating meat if it were raised cleanly and sustainably. I go off and on between strict vegetarian diets and diets rich in animal protein however the most enjoyable for me is eating meat occasionally...

I have been masturbating my taste buds for a while now, and I've found just a few foods that are as delicious as certain meats. Like Chinese pork preparations are out of this world.

What's your view on it, would you quit eating meat if the planet had an opportunity to stop altogether? I know I would. I'd miss it though.

We have canine teeth for a reason, I guess.


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Luueschen]
    #22298722 - 09/27/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Eating meat has been a staple of Earthly hominid diets since the paleolithic days. As we grow smarter and more sensitive, we notice the social and conscience-eating implications associated with meat consumption...as well as the environmental problems.

Personally I wouldn't have a problem eating meat if it were raised cleanly and sustainably. I go off and on between strict vegetarian diets and diets rich in animal protein however the most enjoyable for me is eating meat occasionally...

I have been masturbating my taste buds for a while now, and I've found just a few foods that are as delicious as certain meats. Like Chinese pork preparations are out of this world.

What's your view on it, would you quit eating meat if the planet had an opportunity to stop altogether? I know I would. I'd miss it though.

We have canine teeth for a reason, I guess.





what exactly is sustainable in agriculture


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22298784 - 09/27/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Sustainable gardening is a world of it's own. you can do it easily. the problem is the most sustainable efficient water for agriculture is recycled water


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Luueschen]
    #22298837 - 09/27/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Grass fed ruminant meats; bison, cow, sheep etc. are pretty sustainable from what I hear

And @OP; I personally feel that I feel much better on a vegatarian diet than a meat heavy one. I am not a strict vegatarain, but my colon is much cleaner, and my spiritual endevors as well. I like the idea of it. Prolly about once every 2 weeks I eat meat

But ya IMO from pure experience vegatarian is the shit


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22298841 - 09/27/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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what exactly is sustainable in agriculture



It certainly isn't eating over 200lbs of meat per capita per year.


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: koraks]
    #22298854 - 09/27/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ive been eating meat my whole life. Veggies do taste good but I dont have the satisfaction I meet when I eat protein.


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Luueschen]
    #22298857 - 09/27/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Sustainable gardening is a world of it's own. you can do it easily. the problem is the most sustainable efficient water for agriculture is recycled water





like urine from the animals grazing or waste water from laundry?


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: koraks]
    #22298863 - 09/27/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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what exactly is sustainable in agriculture



It certainly isn't eating over 200lbs of meat per capita per year.





so you're saying we will run our of cows, pigs and chickens if we continue at this rate...


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22298889 - 09/27/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I just looked something up. Rat feces are traced in ground meat.


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Roostertail]
    #22298895 - 09/27/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I just looked something up. Rat feces are traced in ground meat.




they're also in peanut butter, canned foods and damn near everything else you eat

human feces are in your fresh produce thanks to the illegal aliens working the crops

how many e-coli outbreaks have there been? where do you think it comes from?


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Roostertail]
    #22298912 - 09/27/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

And in spinach


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22298918 - 09/27/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Veggies do taste good but I dont have the satisfaction I meet when I eat protein.



There's protein in cereals and grains too, did you know that? Less than in meat, but plenty for humans. That same feeling you get from eating meat, I get from eating a vegetarian meal. And I used to eat A LOT of meat when I was younger, I can assure you.

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so you're saying we will run our of cows, pigs and chickens if we continue at this rate...



Maybe. Not rats though. I understand they're good eating too.


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Luueschen] * 1
    #22298923 - 09/27/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'd sooner stop eating vegetables than I would stop eating meat.

The only thing that even comes close to having the same flavor as meat, is mushrooms and the consistency is no where near it. The flavor isn't even close enough you'd be able to mistake it.

Meat til I die. If the meat industries all died tomorrow, I'd be hunting squirrel or something.


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22298989 - 09/27/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd sooner stop eating vegetables than I would stop eating meat.

The only thing that even comes close to having the same flavor as meat, is mushrooms and the consistency is no where near it. The flavor isn't even close enough you'd be able to mistake it.

Meat til I die. If the meat industries all died tomorrow, I'd be hunting squirrel or something.



Just go for hunted game or grass fed. IMO/so i understand it, it is really just corn fed meat that is unethical and an issue

REaesonable amounts of grass fed meat should be fairly sustainable. At least this is what Joel salatin is spreading. Perhaps even he is wrong?


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: topdog82]
    #22299040 - 09/27/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I haven't had a good duck dinner in a while...peking duck and dim sum duck is the stuff, y'know.
just look how thick and buttery the skin is:

or how about char siu bao rolls


I've been hungry for some braunschweiger too (liverwurst)


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Luueschen]
    #22299049 - 09/27/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Organ meats are fucking delicious. They are an aquired taste. But the heavy bloodiness and heme iron filled flesh is too good after the second or third time


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: topdog82]
    #22299084 - 09/27/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Organ meats are awesome mate, turkey livers are delicious, and try eating orange marmalade with fried chicken livers stuff is perfect for a post-joint snack


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Luueschen]
    #22299100 - 09/27/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Foie gras, sweetbreads and liverwurst.  Yum.  I aint going for no brains or hearts, though.


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22299106 - 09/27/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

recycled water is basically purified sewage


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22299116 - 09/27/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you live in a town in California or Arizona with a good Mexican population you've probably been offered Cabeza which is really, really good. It is cow and goat brain and it tastes delicious, very fatty and rich and flavorful. Try it


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: koraks]
    #22299196 - 09/27/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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so you're saying we will run our of cows, pigs and chickens if we continue at this rate...



Maybe. Not rats though. I understand they're good eating too.





I know someone that has eaten rats, ant eggs, bee larvae and a host of other things
most of us wouldnt even consider. when dirt has more money than you and there's a
drought, you do what you have to


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Luueschen]
    #22299211 - 09/27/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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recycled water is basically purified sewage




people drink that shit too

I drink nothing but mountain spring water, I even use it in my toilets




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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22299241 - 09/27/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have my toilet hooked up to a brita filter so when I flush I have water to brush my teeth with


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22299278 - 09/27/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'd never give up eating meat. Bacon, steak, burgers, the list goes on. I'm with shroomslip on this one


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Re: On the topic of eating flesh [Re: Luueschen]
    #22299284 - 09/27/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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recycled water is basically purified sewage



All fresh water is recycled.


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