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God Weeps
    #22298347 - 09/27/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm pretty sick of nothing but the pope on every news and media outlet everywhere, but a story today in the Chicago Tribune really takes the cake.

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Separately, the pope met with American bishops in town for the family festival and repeated to them face-to-face his vow to hold them accountable for their misdeeds.

"God weeps," he said.

During the meeting with the bishops, Francis referred to gay marriage for the first time in his U.S. trip, lamenting the new reality in which Christians must live.




God damned piece of shit! This guy is the best pope the catholic spaghetti monster worshipers have had in decades, and he's still a drooling moron.

What is he suggesting exactly, that god stood by and jerked off as little boys got it up the ass and now god is what, weeping? After doing nothing to stop it?

Do religious retards ever listen to themselves? WTF is wrong with our species? :confused:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22298384 - 09/27/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Religion is the devils business. 


It is all corrupt.  The objective is to recruit more followers.  Which means more money to build bigger institutions.  Do those donations go to help the needy?  If so how much?


but anything that helps people treat one another better is goood i think.  it shouldnt take punishment in an afterlife to accomplish that but whatever works i guess.  Religion is like the peoples method of population control.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22298440 - 09/27/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well this Pope is a moron:

'We can't afford' to take in the immigrants the Pope wants the US to absorb, Trump tells CNN
He said Thursday morning that while 'his words are beautiful and I respect the Pope,' the U.S. has more practical fish to fry
Francis said Wednesday that the US is right to fight global warming
Trump warned that acting alone without other nations like China following suit would 'destroy our country' economically


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3247642/It-s-Pope-vs-Donald-Trump-rejects-pontiff-s-call-compassion-immigration-action-global-warming.html#ixzz3mxyaojHw


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Re: God Weeps [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22298801 - 09/27/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

#popesacommunist


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Re: God Weeps [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22299065 - 09/27/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Diploid can we get some fucking moderation in this sub?


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Re: God Weeps (moved) [Re: Diploid]
    #22299174 - 09/27/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This thread was moved from Political Discussion.

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I hope I'm moving the right thread



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Re: God Weeps (moved) [Re: Diploid]
    #22299411 - 09/27/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Someone is a grumpy bear today :frown:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22299485 - 09/27/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder if it's an idiomatic expression and doesn't translate well, if not the Vatican will be making they're craft beers with that stuff, Lachrymation IPA, Weepy Porter, Our Lady of Whimpering Lager, Piously Blubbering Ale, there's a little suffering in every bottle.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22299518 - 09/27/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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God damned piece of shit! This guy is the best pope the catholic spaghetti monster worshipers have had in decades, and he's still a drooling moron.





Whats with the straw man? It's hard to believe you are genuinely interested in philosophy and still do not even realize that comparing the concept of God to the spaghetti monster is a ridiculous straw man. To me you just come across really bitter and closed minded or even simple minded.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22299561 - 09/27/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This was originally posted in the Pub, PSP is the new dumping ground. :cheers:

Oy, well bite me, this was in the Political forum originally, WTF.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22299813 - 09/27/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Whats with the straw man?

What straw man? Where did I misrepresent him?

comparing the concept of God to the spaghetti monster is a ridiculous straw man

How so?


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22300063 - 09/27/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Crying "straw man" is apparently the new go to for the trolls :shrug:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #22300208 - 09/27/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's a straw man because it misrepresents the concept of God that is actually found in the spiritual traditions.

God is not thought to be something that is in the created universe like a hypothetical spaghetti monster. God is thought to be the ground of all being and reality so God is not something that is found within the created universe. This is also why it is a mistake to compare the God of the monotheistic religions to the Pegan Gods. It is also why in some traditions such as Islam God is not to be depicted or represented by a physical thing or object since God is thought to be formless and non-finite.

So the belief in God is just a different way of looking at this reality and the mystery we are all faced with so that arrogant attitude and assumed intellectual superiority is really quite repulsive for many people. If you would actually try to open up and think more critically about it I think you would probably benefit as a person in general and not have such a bitter negative attitude about religious people.

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Crying "straw man" is apparently the new go to for the trolls




Troll eh? I have been posting on this board for years and am no troll.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22300267 - 09/27/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bullshit. That shows how little you know about the Spaghetti Monster.

Everything you just said about god applies to the Spaghetti Monster, and I'll wager you can't make an argument against that without resorting to "it's true because I say so" or some variation of that schoolyard retort.

But go ahead and try. I'd love to be surprised.

God is not thought to be something that is in the created universe

Neither is the SM.

God is thought to be the ground of all being and reality

So is the SM.

God is not something that is found within the created universe.

Neither is the SM.

God is thought to be formless and non-finite.

So is the SM.

So the belief in God is just a different way of looking at this reality and the mystery we are all faced with

As is a belief in the SM.

so that arrogant attitude and assumed intellectual superiority

I'm not the one so pompous as to claim to know the mind of something capable of crating the universe. So far, that's all you buddy. I'm humbled by the SM and would never presume to knowingly lecture people like you just did.

You disappoint. Get with the program. Read the SM scriptures, learn WTF you're talking about, then get back to me. Until then, you're just blabbering clueless nonsense about a Spaghetti Monster you know nothing about, yet somehow feel entitled to render opinions on. :rolleyes:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid] * 1
    #22300371 - 09/27/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I get the impression you think the concept of God is arbitrary but its not. It's a way of understanding the world and perceiving the nature of Matter.

To me matter is not what reality is instead it is something that exists because being exists. I view reality as being and the objects of my senses as something that exists because of being and not the other way around. As opposed to this materialist atheistic people usually tend to view the reality as the objects of the senses are what reality is made of and being and consciousness are byproducts of the brain. That's really all the difference comes down to.. people who don't see this are ignorant and can often be very arrogant.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22300426 - 09/27/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So what's your point? I also get the impression you think the concept of the Spaghetti Monster is arbitrary, but its not.

people who don't see this are ignorant and can often be very arrogant.

Translation: "If you don't see things my way, you are a pompous ignoramus."

Holy shit, and you call ME arrogant. That's rich man. I love the irony.

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Dip said: I'll wager you can't make an argument against that without resorting to "it's true because I say so" or some variation of that schoolyard retort.



Ahahahaaaaa! QED  :dumblol:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22300664 - 09/27/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I get the impression you think the concept of God is arbitrary but its not. It's a way of understanding the world and perceiving the nature of Matter.

To me matter is not what reality is instead it is something that exists because being exists. I view reality as being and the objects of my senses as something that exists because of being and not the other way around. As opposed to this materialist atheistic people usually tend to view the reality as the objects of the senses are what reality is made of and being and consciousness are byproducts of the brain. That's really all the difference comes down to.. people who don't see this are ignorant and can often be very arrogant.




"As opposed to...consciousness are byproducts of the brain"

So if I smashed by brain with a sledgehammer, it will have no affect on my consciousness?

"people who don't see this are ignorant"  :lol:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: qman]
    #22300863 - 09/27/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So if I smashed by brain with a sledgehammer, it will have no affect on my consciousness?




No, what I said does not imply this. What a simple minded conclusion. Consider the possibility that the brain is an instrument of consciousness and they are intertwined and correlated.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22300908 - 09/27/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Diploid said:
I'm pretty sick of nothing but the pope on every news and media outlet everywhere, but a story today in the Chicago Tribune really takes the cake.

Quote:

Separately, the pope met with American bishops in town for the family festival and repeated to them face-to-face his vow to hold them accountable for their misdeeds.

"God weeps," he said.

During the meeting with the bishops, Francis referred to gay marriage for the first time in his U.S. trip, lamenting the new reality in which Christians must live.




God damned piece of shit! This guy is the best pope the catholic spaghetti monster worshipers have had in decades, and he's still a drooling moron.

What is he suggesting exactly, that god stood by and jerked off as little boys got it up the ass and now god is what, weeping? After doing nothing to stop it?

Do religious retards ever listen to themselves? WTF is wrong with our species? :confused:




A lot of our species think that it is acceptable to bring little boys into existence, even though they face the possibility of the deplorable fate of getting it up the ass while nothing is done to stop it. When it comes down to it, that is WTF is wrong with our species. At least, that is what is wrong when the possibility of this deplorable fate is perceived and considered, and we go forth and agree to impose this kind of existence anyway. I guess a lot of people are in a way innocent, because it is in their nature to reproduce, and they don't always question their nature. At bottom, they don't take the time for a proper deliberation on such a big decision because they are unaware of the implications.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22300965 - 09/27/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i think you are taking misreading the article you cited.
here is what i read:

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The pope met with five victims of child sexual abuse and told them he was "deeply sorry" for the times they came forward to tell their stories and weren't believed. He assured them that he believes them and that bishops who covered up for abusers will be made to answer for what they did.

"I pledge to you that we will follow the path of truth wherever it may lead," Francis said in Spanish. "Clergy and bishops will be held accountable when they abuse or fail to protect children."

Minutes later, he went into a meeting of bishops from the U.S. and around the world who were in town for a Catholic festival on the family and told them the same thing.

"God weeps" over what was done to the youngsters, he lamented




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He also pointed to a new direction of the U.S. church, twice praising the service of America's nuns, who had been subject to a recently ended Vatican crackdown, and urging America's bishops to focus more on helping their flock through life's ups and downs rather than spending all their energy on culture wars.




anyway, i'm no pope lover, but you really seem to have a hard on for religion Diploid.  So what if the pope isn't excited for gay marriage?  He also says that the church shouldn't be focused on shit like that and should help the needy instead. :shrug: thats a big improvement in my book.  Too bad there weren't more Jesuit Popes in history, things might have gone a lot different.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: falcon]
    #22301016 - 09/27/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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This was originally posted in the Pub, PSP is the new dumping ground. :cheers:

Oy, well bite me, this was in the Political forum originally, WTF.




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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22301951 - 09/28/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So what's your point? I also get the impression you think the concept of the Spaghetti Monster is arbitrary, but its not.

people who don't see this are ignorant and can often be very arrogant.

Translation: "If you don't see things my way, you are a pompous ignoramus."

Holy shit, and you call ME arrogant. That's rich man. I love the irony.

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Dip said: I'll wager you can't make an argument against that without resorting to "it's true because I say so" or some variation of that schoolyard retort.



Ahahahaaaaa! QED  :dumblol:





:lol:

Thank you, Diploid. I know it can be frustrating trying to educate non-believers, but if everyone else could open their minds just a little bit to others' beliefs and religions then they would clearly see that His Noodliness is the one true creator.
Ignorance and arrogance blinds the world, if only they could see the glory before them.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22302055 - 09/28/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So if I smashed by brain with a sledgehammer, it will have no affect on my consciousness?




No, what I said does not imply this. What a simple minded conclusion. Consider the possibility that the brain is an instrument of consciousness and they are intertwined and correlated.




You seem to be implying that the brain and consciousness are two separate entities, there's no evidence for that claim.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: qman]
    #22302243 - 09/28/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well could you explain to me how it is that the brain creates consciousness?


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22302329 - 09/28/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just because he doesn't have the specifics doesn't mean you do. Consciousness is an activity, not a thing. Explain to us how consciousness and the brain work together...

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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22302349 - 09/28/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Well could you explain to me how it is that the brain creates consciousness?




Well, there are these cells that react to the environment.  Actually in the brain they are very specialized sensing and processing cells called neurons that are interconnected.  Long story short, there are about 100 billion of these neurons in the brain, so the interplay between them is super duper complex giving rise to to what folks like to call human consciousness. 

Does that clear it up for you?


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Hippocampus] * 1
    #22302416 - 09/28/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That is not an explanation.  There is no defined relationship, you are merely asserting.  I'm not going to come down on either side, however, because the truth is no one understands consciousness.  We all have our opinions, and that is all they are.  There is not yet any scientific explanation one way or another, period.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22302532 - 09/28/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Show me an object without a brain that has consciousness.


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    #22302572 - 09/28/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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That is not an explanation.  There is no defined relationship, you are merely asserting.  I'm not going to come down on either side, however, because the truth is no one understands consciousness.  We all have our opinions, and that is all they are.  There is not yet any scientific explanation one way or another, period.




"There is no defined relationship"

If I cut my eyes out of my head, will my consciousness experience sight? 

Can I alter my consciousness with physical compounds?


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    #22302596 - 09/28/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You completely misunderstand me.  Hippocampus said that the complexity of the brain's hundred billion neurons gives rise to consciousness.

That is emphatically not an explanation, it's nothing.  It's just an assertion that cannot be verified. 

That's all I meant.


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    #22302599 - 09/28/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Show me an object without a brain that has consciousness.




Show me a statement I made that suggests that.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22302614 - 09/28/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Show me an object without a brain that has consciousness.




define consciousness, then explain to me how one measures it.

plants communicate.  Does communication imply consciousness?


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    #22303028 - 09/28/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Well, there are these cells that react to the environment.  Actually in the brain they are very specialized sensing and processing cells called neurons that are interconnected.  Long story short, there are about 100 billion of these neurons in the brain, so the interplay between them is super duper complex giving rise to to what folks like to call human consciousness. 

Does that clear it up for you?




Exactly what Quantum said. What is desired is an actual explanation of how it is done, you know like how an engineer can explain how a combustion engine drives a car. All you are giving is a reaffirming that your dogma is indeed true and not an actual explanation. Not very skeptical or scientific thinking. A real scientific mind should be critical of everything and not just assume things to be true.

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Show me an object without a brain that has consciousness.




Plants have a form of experience and consciousness and yet no brain or nervous system. There are other organisms with no brain that exhibit memory and some form of intelligence.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22305947 - 09/28/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Show me an object without a brain that has consciousness.




Plants have a form of experience and consciousness and yet no brain or nervous system. There are other organisms with no brain that exhibit memory and some form of intelligence.




I second this but I wouldn't say plant's have consciousness though.

I think the main point should be that the bible and "gods" teachings are BS and science can prove this!


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Re: God Weeps [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22306005 - 09/28/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The good book is good, and its a book.  but its certainly not the only book worth reading.



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Re: God Weeps [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22306043 - 09/29/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I second this but I wouldn't say plant's have consciousness though.




They have experience, it is experience that IMO cannot be explained by physical material causes - IT simply cannot fit into the the materialist paradigm of reality and that is why that paradigm is destined to replaced by a better consensual theory of reality. Plants do not have consciousness of consciousness or self awareness but there is a stream of experience occurring there.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #22306063 - 09/29/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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That is not an explanation.  There is no defined relationship, you are merely asserting.  I'm not going to come down on either side, however, because the truth is no one understands consciousness.  We all have our opinions, and that is all they are.  There is not yet any scientific explanation one way or another, period.




well maybe you should define consciousness.  Personally I think it's a folly of a philosophical pursuit akin to the search for human "vitality" a century ago.  Consciousness, the philosophical meaning, isn't required to understand the brain.  It sounds to me like people who would suggest a duality of consciousness vs brain are the ones asserting things and holding onto dogma.  The debate is pointless to me.  Meaningless as if you said "God loves you".  Anyone trying to assert that consciousness doesn't come solely from the brain are the ones trying to pile on extra new assertions, and thus should be the ones to provide evidence for their extra, above the norm, beliefs.  Otherwise, I see no need to change from the default position, the one with all the evidence, that what philosophers and mystics call "consciousness" arises solely from the physical brain.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22306140 - 09/29/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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They have experience, it is experience that IMO cannot be explained by physical material causes - IT simply cannot fit into the the materialist paradigm of reality and that is why that paradigm is destined to replaced by a better consensual theory of reality. Plants do not have consciousness of consciousness or self awareness but there is a stream of experience occurring there.




Yeh thats the jist of it. To be scientific though cuz I'm such a fucking nerd plants are completely chemical. Plants can't see, or feel pain, or emotion like animals. IF we see something or we have some sort of stimulus, first it must be processed in the brain and then the action is carried out after it has been decided. Plants are cause and effect, when they receive a stimulus it usually leads to one and always the same response. It does not have a brain that is conscious of what is happening and it can't make decisions.

For example if you touch a carnivorous plant, the pressure receptors tell it to close. If you hang a plant upside down it will curl back up because of gravity receptors, if you move a plant away from light it will grow towards the light source because of photo-receptors. Therefore it's not really because of "experiences." Their actions are already predetermined and is based on the stimulus they receive. They don't have self awareness but plants do have a sense of "self" if that makes sense?

Think of our immune system. Our immune cells don't have brains obviously and aren't conscious. But through chemical processes which I won't go into, they know what self is and can tell what cells in your body are part of you. If they didn't have this sense of self they would be attacking your own body's cells and not just pathogens or foreign objects. This is actually how many autoimmune diseases occur.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Hippocampus]
    #22306189 - 09/29/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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That is not an explanation.  There is no defined relationship, you are merely asserting.  I'm not going to come down on either side, however, because the truth is no one understands consciousness.  We all have our opinions, and that is all they are.  There is not yet any scientific explanation one way or another, period.




well maybe you should define consciousness.  Personally I think it's a folly of a philosophical pursuit akin to the search for human "vitality" a century ago.  Consciousness, the philosophical meaning, isn't required to understand the brain.  It sounds to me like people who would suggest a duality of consciousness vs brain are the ones asserting things and holding onto dogma.  The debate is pointless to me.  Meaningless as if you said "God loves you".  Anyone trying to assert that consciousness doesn't come solely from the brain are the ones trying to pile on extra new assertions, and thus should be the ones to provide evidence for their extra, above the norm, beliefs.  Otherwise, I see no need to change from the default position, the one with all the evidence, that what philosophers and mystics call "consciousness" arises solely from the physical brain.




I don't understand what the confusion is. The definition of consciousness is pretty straight forward, it's not like its some abstract idea.

Since philosophers aren't neuroscientists they don't realize that consciousness is a direct product of their brain. But they use that conscious brain to ponder and ask questions about consciousness and what it means to be conscious. Uhh now that's unnecessarily confusing!


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Re: God Weeps [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22306198 - 09/29/15 01:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

oh, you would be surprised what people will try to say is consciousness.  There are whole fucking books on it.  It's stupid.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22306214 - 09/29/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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For example if you touch a carnivorous plant, the pressure receptors tell it to close. If you hang a plant upside down it will curl back up because of gravity receptors, if you move a plant away from light it will grow towards the light source because of photo-receptors.




This is a highly simplified explanation and the last bit is actually entirely innaccurate.  plants grow toward light because auxin breaks down in the presence of light which causes the unlit side of the plant to build up higher auxin levels, thereby stimulating faster and more growth on the unlit side which causes the plant to turn towards the light.  even this process is not well understood.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22307381 - 09/29/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Did he just say gravity receptors? LOL


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22309601 - 09/29/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Did he just say gravity receptors? LOL



Hahaha well that's a bit embarrassing. My excuse is I was drunk as shit in the middle of the night.

Anyway I meant to say gravitropism not gravity receptor. If you turn a plant to the side auxin accumulate in the shoot causing the plant to grow upward. You probably knew that though since you called me out on the mistake.


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