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God Weeps
    #22298347 - 09/27/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm pretty sick of nothing but the pope on every news and media outlet everywhere, but a story today in the Chicago Tribune really takes the cake.

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Separately, the pope met with American bishops in town for the family festival and repeated to them face-to-face his vow to hold them accountable for their misdeeds.

"God weeps," he said.

During the meeting with the bishops, Francis referred to gay marriage for the first time in his U.S. trip, lamenting the new reality in which Christians must live.




God damned piece of shit! This guy is the best pope the catholic spaghetti monster worshipers have had in decades, and he's still a drooling moron.

What is he suggesting exactly, that god stood by and jerked off as little boys got it up the ass and now god is what, weeping? After doing nothing to stop it?

Do religious retards ever listen to themselves? WTF is wrong with our species? :confused:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22298384 - 09/27/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Religion is the devils business. 


It is all corrupt.  The objective is to recruit more followers.  Which means more money to build bigger institutions.  Do those donations go to help the needy?  If so how much?


but anything that helps people treat one another better is goood i think.  it shouldnt take punishment in an afterlife to accomplish that but whatever works i guess.  Religion is like the peoples method of population control.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22298440 - 09/27/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well this Pope is a moron:

'We can't afford' to take in the immigrants the Pope wants the US to absorb, Trump tells CNN
He said Thursday morning that while 'his words are beautiful and I respect the Pope,' the U.S. has more practical fish to fry
Francis said Wednesday that the US is right to fight global warming
Trump warned that acting alone without other nations like China following suit would 'destroy our country' economically


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3247642/It-s-Pope-vs-Donald-Trump-rejects-pontiff-s-call-compassion-immigration-action-global-warming.html#ixzz3mxyaojHw


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Re: God Weeps [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22298801 - 09/27/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

#popesacommunist


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Re: God Weeps [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22299065 - 09/27/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Diploid can we get some fucking moderation in this sub?


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Re: God Weeps (moved) [Re: Diploid]
    #22299174 - 09/27/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This thread was moved from Political Discussion.

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I hope I'm moving the right thread



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Re: God Weeps (moved) [Re: Diploid]
    #22299411 - 09/27/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Someone is a grumpy bear today :frown:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22299485 - 09/27/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder if it's an idiomatic expression and doesn't translate well, if not the Vatican will be making they're craft beers with that stuff, Lachrymation IPA, Weepy Porter, Our Lady of Whimpering Lager, Piously Blubbering Ale, there's a little suffering in every bottle.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22299518 - 09/27/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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God damned piece of shit! This guy is the best pope the catholic spaghetti monster worshipers have had in decades, and he's still a drooling moron.





Whats with the straw man? It's hard to believe you are genuinely interested in philosophy and still do not even realize that comparing the concept of God to the spaghetti monster is a ridiculous straw man. To me you just come across really bitter and closed minded or even simple minded.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22299561 - 09/27/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This was originally posted in the Pub, PSP is the new dumping ground. :cheers:

Oy, well bite me, this was in the Political forum originally, WTF.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22299813 - 09/27/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Whats with the straw man?

What straw man? Where did I misrepresent him?

comparing the concept of God to the spaghetti monster is a ridiculous straw man

How so?


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22300063 - 09/27/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Crying "straw man" is apparently the new go to for the trolls :shrug:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #22300208 - 09/27/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's a straw man because it misrepresents the concept of God that is actually found in the spiritual traditions.

God is not thought to be something that is in the created universe like a hypothetical spaghetti monster. God is thought to be the ground of all being and reality so God is not something that is found within the created universe. This is also why it is a mistake to compare the God of the monotheistic religions to the Pegan Gods. It is also why in some traditions such as Islam God is not to be depicted or represented by a physical thing or object since God is thought to be formless and non-finite.

So the belief in God is just a different way of looking at this reality and the mystery we are all faced with so that arrogant attitude and assumed intellectual superiority is really quite repulsive for many people. If you would actually try to open up and think more critically about it I think you would probably benefit as a person in general and not have such a bitter negative attitude about religious people.

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Crying "straw man" is apparently the new go to for the trolls




Troll eh? I have been posting on this board for years and am no troll.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22300267 - 09/27/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bullshit. That shows how little you know about the Spaghetti Monster.

Everything you just said about god applies to the Spaghetti Monster, and I'll wager you can't make an argument against that without resorting to "it's true because I say so" or some variation of that schoolyard retort.

But go ahead and try. I'd love to be surprised.

God is not thought to be something that is in the created universe

Neither is the SM.

God is thought to be the ground of all being and reality

So is the SM.

God is not something that is found within the created universe.

Neither is the SM.

God is thought to be formless and non-finite.

So is the SM.

So the belief in God is just a different way of looking at this reality and the mystery we are all faced with

As is a belief in the SM.

so that arrogant attitude and assumed intellectual superiority

I'm not the one so pompous as to claim to know the mind of something capable of crating the universe. So far, that's all you buddy. I'm humbled by the SM and would never presume to knowingly lecture people like you just did.

You disappoint. Get with the program. Read the SM scriptures, learn WTF you're talking about, then get back to me. Until then, you're just blabbering clueless nonsense about a Spaghetti Monster you know nothing about, yet somehow feel entitled to render opinions on. :rolleyes:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid] * 1
    #22300371 - 09/27/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I get the impression you think the concept of God is arbitrary but its not. It's a way of understanding the world and perceiving the nature of Matter.

To me matter is not what reality is instead it is something that exists because being exists. I view reality as being and the objects of my senses as something that exists because of being and not the other way around. As opposed to this materialist atheistic people usually tend to view the reality as the objects of the senses are what reality is made of and being and consciousness are byproducts of the brain. That's really all the difference comes down to.. people who don't see this are ignorant and can often be very arrogant.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22300426 - 09/27/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So what's your point? I also get the impression you think the concept of the Spaghetti Monster is arbitrary, but its not.

people who don't see this are ignorant and can often be very arrogant.

Translation: "If you don't see things my way, you are a pompous ignoramus."

Holy shit, and you call ME arrogant. That's rich man. I love the irony.

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Dip said: I'll wager you can't make an argument against that without resorting to "it's true because I say so" or some variation of that schoolyard retort.



Ahahahaaaaa! QED  :dumblol:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: soldatheero]
    #22300664 - 09/27/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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soldatheero said:
I get the impression you think the concept of God is arbitrary but its not. It's a way of understanding the world and perceiving the nature of Matter.

To me matter is not what reality is instead it is something that exists because being exists. I view reality as being and the objects of my senses as something that exists because of being and not the other way around. As opposed to this materialist atheistic people usually tend to view the reality as the objects of the senses are what reality is made of and being and consciousness are byproducts of the brain. That's really all the difference comes down to.. people who don't see this are ignorant and can often be very arrogant.




"As opposed to...consciousness are byproducts of the brain"

So if I smashed by brain with a sledgehammer, it will have no affect on my consciousness?

"people who don't see this are ignorant"  :lol:


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Re: God Weeps [Re: qman]
    #22300863 - 09/27/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So if I smashed by brain with a sledgehammer, it will have no affect on my consciousness?




No, what I said does not imply this. What a simple minded conclusion. Consider the possibility that the brain is an instrument of consciousness and they are intertwined and correlated.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22300908 - 09/27/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Diploid said:
I'm pretty sick of nothing but the pope on every news and media outlet everywhere, but a story today in the Chicago Tribune really takes the cake.

Quote:

Separately, the pope met with American bishops in town for the family festival and repeated to them face-to-face his vow to hold them accountable for their misdeeds.

"God weeps," he said.

During the meeting with the bishops, Francis referred to gay marriage for the first time in his U.S. trip, lamenting the new reality in which Christians must live.




God damned piece of shit! This guy is the best pope the catholic spaghetti monster worshipers have had in decades, and he's still a drooling moron.

What is he suggesting exactly, that god stood by and jerked off as little boys got it up the ass and now god is what, weeping? After doing nothing to stop it?

Do religious retards ever listen to themselves? WTF is wrong with our species? :confused:




A lot of our species think that it is acceptable to bring little boys into existence, even though they face the possibility of the deplorable fate of getting it up the ass while nothing is done to stop it. When it comes down to it, that is WTF is wrong with our species. At least, that is what is wrong when the possibility of this deplorable fate is perceived and considered, and we go forth and agree to impose this kind of existence anyway. I guess a lot of people are in a way innocent, because it is in their nature to reproduce, and they don't always question their nature. At bottom, they don't take the time for a proper deliberation on such a big decision because they are unaware of the implications.


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Re: God Weeps [Re: Diploid]
    #22300965 - 09/27/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i think you are taking misreading the article you cited.
here is what i read:

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The pope met with five victims of child sexual abuse and told them he was "deeply sorry" for the times they came forward to tell their stories and weren't believed. He assured them that he believes them and that bishops who covered up for abusers will be made to answer for what they did.

"I pledge to you that we will follow the path of truth wherever it may lead," Francis said in Spanish. "Clergy and bishops will be held accountable when they abuse or fail to protect children."

Minutes later, he went into a meeting of bishops from the U.S. and around the world who were in town for a Catholic festival on the family and told them the same thing.

"God weeps" over what was done to the youngsters, he lamented




Quote:

He also pointed to a new direction of the U.S. church, twice praising the service of America's nuns, who had been subject to a recently ended Vatican crackdown, and urging America's bishops to focus more on helping their flock through life's ups and downs rather than spending all their energy on culture wars.




anyway, i'm no pope lover, but you really seem to have a hard on for religion Diploid.  So what if the pope isn't excited for gay marriage?  He also says that the church shouldn't be focused on shit like that and should help the needy instead. :shrug: thats a big improvement in my book.  Too bad there weren't more Jesuit Popes in history, things might have gone a lot different.


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