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It's been a year since my bad trip
    #22296944 - 09/27/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hey guys. I haven't been on this site for quite some time and I feel it is time I return for some advice. Any time I talk to anyone about this, they just give me a blank stare and think I am crazy since they've never seen the other side.


Anyway, I basically had a really bad trip at about this time last year. While my bad trip really has helped me sort some things out on my life... It has also led me to believe in absolutely nothing. It has left me with this void. I don't believe in my reality..in whatever world this is. I feel like I am the only one in existence..that everyone is just a part of my imagination. This thought of being alone in this.. Dimension.. Universe.. World.. Whatever it is.. Has kept bringing me back to suicide since nothing exists anyways. I thought this thought would go away since last year, but the thought had stuck. I have tried talking to people about it and they just think I'm crazy. I am going to see a counselor soon and talk regularly twice a month.. But I just want advice from people that have actually seen the other side to these powerful substances.

How have you gotten past a bad trip?


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Re: It's been a year since my bad trip [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #22296968 - 09/27/15 02:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I had a few really bad trips, never believed in them until it happened. I waited months before I did it again but that was the cure. So grab a handful of shrooms and send those worries on their way. Does matter what world or place your in. Youre in it and its up to you to change it, no one else can do it for you. Keep ya head up, shit always gets better.


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Re: It's been a year since my bad trip [Re: Laughingcowwa]
    #22297457 - 09/27/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I had one horribly bad trip about 8 months ago... a "bad trip" is an understatement though. Lets just say, If the cops were called that night they probably would have shot me because I was in fight or flight mode. This was my only bad trip on psychedelics to date & I have tripped over 50 times on LSD/mushrooms. You can read the trip reports I made on this bad trip-the threads are in the months of February & another one in June (rethinking & revisiting the bad trip in a different light). I had to leave some things out because it is too much for me to talk about.

I think abstaining from psychedelics for a period of time would be a good idea. Only do them again when you feel like you've gotten past this bad trip. Me personally, I waited a little over a month from the time of the bad trip to do psychedelics again. I only did 1.5 grams. In some kind of warped mentality I had, I felt like I had to confront the mushrooms again to know that they weren't so bad & scary in order to get past my bad trip. I felt that I needed a better understanding of what went wrong that night.

I thought about this bad trip every day for months. I wouldn't think about it for hours at a time, just brief memories or thoughts about it would come into my head randomly & they'd last for a couple minutes each day. It was only up until about a couple months ago that I stopped thinking about the bad trip everyday. Still sometimes I think about it but not as often as every day. Maybe a couple times a week or so. Like right now, obviously I'm thinking about the bad trip because I'm writing about it.

I know it's really hard to think this but you need to remember that what happened during your bad trip was not your normal self in your normal frame of mind. The mushrooms have worn off now & it's time for you to go back to your normal thought process. I'm sure what you experienced that night is forever embedded in your mind but you need to push those thoughts to the back of your mind where they're not so easily thought of. It will be easier to do this if you stay active-physically active and mentally active. Try finding new hobbies or new things to do that you've never done before.

It's a weird way of thinking I suppose but for me, it took tripping again on mushrooms to further get past my bad trip. I needed to "revisit" my bad trip, I guess you could say, but this time it was in a different light.

I know my advice probably isn't the best... but I thought some advice was better than none because I see that you've only gotten one other reply. If you need to talk about this feel free to PM me or just post your questions in this thread & I will answer back. Even if it's just a lifeline, just remember it is only a matter of time before things go back to normal. Stay strong bro. You need to have the mentality that you can overcome these bad thoughts & negative emotions. Don't sit around just thinking over & over again in your head what went wrong during your bad trip, that's only going to set you back even further. You need to conquer & believe that you're a better person now & that you can do this. Stay strong bro. Take care.


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Re: It's been a year since my bad trip [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #22297493 - 09/27/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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big_scrappy97 said:
Hey guys. I haven't been on this site for quite some time and I feel it is time I return for some advice. Any time I talk to anyone about this, they just give me a blank stare and think I am crazy since they've never seen the other side.


Anyway, I basically had a really bad trip at about this time last year. While my bad trip really has helped me sort some things out on my life... It has also led me to believe in absolutely nothing. It has left me with this void. I don't believe in my reality..in whatever world this is. I feel like I am the only one in existence..that everyone is just a part of my imagination.






Hey no way! I can not be part of your imagination because its you who is part of mine. Nice try though Mr delusion! :grin:


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Re: It's been a year since my bad trip [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #22703187 - 12/26/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Hey your post is the reason I joined this site tonight.  The last time I did LSD was back in the '70s and shrooms in the early '80s.  When I first started doing that stuff in the mid 1970s I just loved it.  I just loved to take a hit of acid, roll up a big joint of what was good sh&t for us at the time, and take a few good hits to launch it all off.  I know that sounds like I was just doing it recreationally but that isn't the whole truth.  I felt more and more like I was seeking out some kind of universal truth.

I'll try to make this short, but that's going to be hard.  Back in January of 1977 I took a bunch of speed, ran across some microdot and took 5 hits of that, and then went to a party with some friends where everyone was passing around a big fatty.  Well, when it came to me I took a big ol' toke off it and then tasted it and... it was angel dust!  Well I was like, well it's too late now, so I took another one.  That's when the night really got strange.  And I was the one driving!

We left there and went back to my friends place which was a sort of pool hall, game room thing and I never tripped so hard in my life.  I was having a fine time though a little on the weird side, and this guy comes up to me and starts doing stuff that mirrors what I was doing at the time.  I even looked at him and thought "hey, that's weird, that's me over there" cause he looked like me (in my state at the time). 

I thought, hey, this guy is trying to mess with me and I think what can I do to throw him off? and I pull out a cigarette box filled with pills and wtf, he's doing the same thing!  I think I have to get away from this place and I'm sitting in my car about to drive away and the guy is at the window saying some stuff like, you guys have to stay here and party with me tonight, I got the crank on you, and other ridiculous '70s TV show clichΓ© lines and it suddenly pops into my head "damn, we're getting busted".

Well, instantly I hear an audible snap in my head and everything just sort of broke loose.  Sheer panic was the only reality at that point.  The colors were gone, all I saw was a sort of stark bleak vividness that made me feel like I was under a microscope or something.  All the beauty and everything I took for granted about the world and feeling part of humanity vanished in that instant while voices told me things like "you're doomed" and "it'll be like this from now on".  And they were right.  At least for the next 30 something odd years.  Every time I tried to smoke pot or take anything at all except alcohol it brought it right back fresh to me.  Needless to say, I've been drinking more often that I should since then. 

I'd really like to take back my life and get a hold on things.  I have been pushed to do better because of what happened in so many other areas of my life, I have worked out and run for years and stayed in good physical shape.  Plus I look young and married a girl 23 years younger than me and I have young kids right now.  But I feel like the story "The Picture of Dorian Grey".  Inside I have this festering thing that no one can see from the outside.

Lately I've been thinking that maybe micro dosing some mushrooms might help.  I've done every kind of soul searching and self help I could think of or read about.  I just still feel incomplete and detached from the rest of humanity. 

I probably should have started a new thread with this, I didn't mean to go on so long.  If anyone reads it then good, maybe somebody has some advice.  To the OP, this stuff can last a lifetime, I am testament to that.  I just wanted you to know that I am willing to listen if you need somebody to talk with.  Peace


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Re: It's been a year since my bad trip [Re: That70s.sherm]
    #22767504 - 01/11/16 08:10 PM (8 years, 19 days ago)

I was hoping somebody might stumble across this thread again and keep it going but I guess not.  Is there some way to at least know if anyone has read your post?


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Re: It's been a year since my bad trip [Re: That70s.sherm]
    #22768961 - 01/12/16 07:14 AM (8 years, 19 days ago)

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I was hoping somebody might stumble across this thread again and keep it going but I guess not.  Is there some way to at least know if anyone has read your post?




This is a good way to know.


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Re: It's been a year since my bad trip [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #22769788 - 01/12/16 11:42 AM (8 years, 19 days ago)

Well i've been there, did a 35g dried cos one fella on you tube called Kilindy Lyi said he took 31 grams and is bragging about it. So i wanted to see if there more to the revelation if i take more than 5g as i've done in the past.

The 35g trip was extremely intense, visuals were skipped, tons of info was shown to me, felt great! then the blackout, next thing i know, i was back in my body. Had this feeling of void, and emptiness, can't communicate with my body, thinking what have i done to myself, must have overdosed and there is no way back to the real world. I remembering thinking the police is gonna find me dead and what am i gonna tell my family. After an hour or so i thought, as i've lost tracked of time, the mushroom effect wears off, i'm sitting in the toilet with a pool of slimy salty sweat. Didn't know how i got there in the 1st place, but i'm glad i've finally got a control of my body and "reality" is coming back. Changed shirt, used a wet towel to clean myself and crawled thankfully back to bed. 7 Hours has passed.

Can't sleep because of the intense trip for a few hours but finally dosed off. Upon waking up, saw my leg veins were deep purple in color. It didn't happen before with my low doses and took a week to wear off. During the week, i had very light sleep because once i closed my eyes, a very light mushroom trip would start, i think that's because of the mushroom effect still in my body. The whole week i was muscle sore, which became better as the days goes by.

I've taken low doses before like 3g and 5g and absolutely loved the experienced. So i attribute this bad experience to taking a too high dose. There is a reason people says 5g dry is the heroic dose and the maximum dose one should take, but i just gotta try higher to see what's there for myself.

Looking back to the past 35g dry experience, i reason about it.

Why does the coming down brings me to the void?

I searched deeper and asked who created the mushroom in the 1st place?

Being Christian, the answer is God Almighty in Genesis where he created the earth and universe and man in 6 days, and placed the mushrooms here for our health like the Reishi, Shiitake and Turkey Tail to fight cancer, and other mushrooms for our food. He gave a special family of mushroom, as medicine to minister to our spirit.

Encoded in our mind somewhere is a revelation of the eternal future, which the mushroom has the special key to unlock and show it to us, but the problem is we need a new eternal body to go to that place. It's like the place is in another Galaxy far away and we strapped onto our present technology rockets which can't even take us out of our solar system, and the rocket ship falls back down. We need a new type of rocket ship that can travel through inter galaxies.

So back to the Book that is endorsed by the Creator. It says:

1 Corinthians 15
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Written by Apostle Paul

The Resurrection of Christ

1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. 9For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. 11Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.

The Resurrection of the Dead

12Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. 16For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 17And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 18Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 19If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

The Order of Resurrection

20But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

29Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? 30And why stand we in jeopardy every hour? 31I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. 32If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die. 33Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. 34Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

The Resurrection Body

35But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 36Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 37And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

42So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 48As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

Where O Death is Your Victory?

(Isaiah 57:1-2)

50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

58Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.




If we focus on the mushroom, there's isn't a credible answer that i can think of, but from the Creator's perspective who created the mushroom, the mushroom is there to give us a glimpse of what's to come, but we need a new body to contain our spirit, to go there, which will happen at Christ's 2nd coming.


Hope this Helps!


Cheers & Enjoy the Mushroom Again!
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Re: It's been a year since my bad trip [Re: Wesker]
    #22812621 - 01/22/16 08:36 PM (8 years, 8 days ago)

But how do I know if you read the longer post above that one you quoted without you giving any input?


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Re: It's been a year since my bad trip [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #22813660 - 01/23/16 03:02 AM (8 years, 8 days ago)

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big_scrappy97 said:
Hey guys. I haven't been on this site for quite some time and I feel it is time I return for some advice. Any time I talk to anyone about this, they just give me a blank stare and think I am crazy since they've never seen the other side.


Anyway, I basically had a really bad trip at about this time last year. While my bad trip really has helped me sort some things out on my life... It has also led me to believe in absolutely nothing. It has left me with this void. I don't believe in my reality..in whatever world this is. I feel like I am the only one in existence..that everyone is just a part of my imagination. This thought of being alone in this.. Dimension.. Universe.. World.. Whatever it is.. Has kept bringing me back to suicide since nothing exists anyways. I thought this thought would go away since last year, but the thought had stuck. I have tried talking to people about it and they just think I'm crazy. I am going to see a counselor soon and talk regularly twice a month.. But I just want advice from people that have actually seen the other side to these powerful substances.

How have you gotten past a bad trip?




I can understand exactly where your coming from. You have to realize the beauty of something being empty is that you can fill it with whatever you want :smile:


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Re: It's been a year since my bad trip [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #22814056 - 01/23/16 08:00 AM (8 years, 8 days ago)

hey bigscrappy, its been awhile!

Sounds like you have dissociation disorder (i think thats the name). Its basically when you feel out-of-place, removed from yourself in a real way.

My advice is to microdose a psychedelic. It should give u better insight into whats going on and how the Universe works.

Try not to walk down this road. I lost a friend (we werent super close) from him having these "nothing is real" thoughts. He committed suicide.

Let me say that reality may feel fake and like everythings a dream, but its not. Reality is real. We are really here. This is a dimension that does exists and people/things/animals/plants live here.

Take a trip into the forest on a small dose of shrooms and u will see reality is one giant living thing, The Universe is Alive.


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Re: It's been a year since my bad trip [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #22816173 - 01/23/16 05:52 PM (8 years, 7 days ago)

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big_scrappy97 said:
Hey guys. I haven't been on this site for quite some time and I feel it is time I return for some advice. Any time I talk to anyone about this, they just give me a blank stare and think I am crazy since they've never seen the other side.


Anyway, I basically had a really bad trip at about this time last year. While my bad trip really has helped me sort some things out on my life... It has also led me to believe in absolutely nothing. It has left me with this void. I don't believe in my reality..in whatever world this is. I feel like I am the only one in existence..that everyone is just a part of my imagination. This thought of being alone in this.. Dimension.. Universe.. World.. Whatever it is.. Has kept bringing me back to suicide since nothing exists anyways. I thought this thought would go away since last year, but the thought had stuck. I have tried talking to people about it and they just think I'm crazy. I am going to see a counselor soon and talk regularly twice a month.. But I just want advice from people that have actually seen the other side to these powerful substances.

How have you gotten past a bad trip?





You need God, thats my opinion. I have been where you are, at least my own personal version of it (we are all different, so we all experience our spiritual journeys through different lenses).

Its the loss of meaning of the physical existence. You have had a deep spiritual insight, but you haven't seen the whole truth (the whole truth results in love, compassion and joy) so you are stuck in the state of meaninglessness.

The next step, or rather the only step you can really go from here, is called God consciousness, which is extremely blissful.

This is what Christ's first public miracle, the turning the water into wine represents. The transition from loss of meaning of physical life, into the joy of spiritual life.

I would recommend you look up a guy named Jan Essman. Get all his books. He gives the clearest explanation of these different experiences of consciousness and how to progres from one to the other.

I would also recommend reading the Bible, prayer and cultivating a relationship with God.

You cant go back to your formal life at this point. If you try , you might partially succeed but this will always eat at you. Deep down, you will never feel alright, never feel like other people. The only answer is go forward, and progress on the spiritual journey.

I wish you the best.


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