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Offlinecircusflea
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Yield differences
    #2229620 - 01/08/04 11:01 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Hey, im getting ready to grow my first shrooms. I was wondering how much difference in yield i could possibly expect if i were to keep the colonized cakes intact and allow the shrooms to grow on them in a fruting chamber as opposed to casing them?

I was also wondering how tight to put the transparant saranwrap over the fruting chamber? Tightly or just loosely? I assumed it would be tight to diminish the possiblity of contamination.

Hope you can help.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Yield differences [Re: circusflea]
    #2229786 - 01/09/04 12:04 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

As far as I know you can double your yeild by casing.

I would get it as tight as possible. Make sure you fan it at least twice a day.

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Re: Yield differences [Re: niteowl]
    #2229866 - 01/09/04 12:35 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

When you say fan it, you mean just lift up the seran wrap and use like cardboard and fan it, then close it back up. If you do casing will the shrooms still have multiple flushes or does it just die. I read if you just use the cakes then after every flush about a week will go by and then it will start back up. If you do the casing can it be reused, or do brand new cakes have to be made?

Also, is one 10cc syringe enough to get started and have a substantial yield?

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Re: Yield differences [Re: circusflea]
    #2229887 - 01/09/04 12:42 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

If you use the honey water tek or whatever you can make an infinite amount if you know what your doing


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Re: Yield differences [Re: Yarry]
    #2229910 - 01/09/04 12:53 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

im just a beginner, would you recommend i use the PF cake method or use the casing method.

When looking at the Picture gallery on the site, i see alot of people using the cake method. Will this produce a substantial ammount?


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Re: Yield differences [Re: circusflea]
    #2229916 - 01/09/04 12:54 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Just lift the lid and fan w/cardboard.
A 10cc syringe will do 10 jars easy.


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Re: Yield differences [Re: circusflea]
    #2229921 - 01/09/04 12:55 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Id suggest The PF Tek For Simple Minds, should be able to find it on the main site here. You will get enough for one person, but dont expect to be dealing. But yeah id run through the PF once or twice and when you get the hang of that you could start casing if you want. My best advice to you would be to read. Read as much on this website as you can. Lemme know if you have any other questions


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Re: Yield differences [Re: circusflea]
    #2229924 - 01/09/04 12:56 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I would just do them as cakes the first time.


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Re: Yield differences [Re: niteowl]
    #2229951 - 01/09/04 01:06 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah im going to do the cake method, i have been reading alot on the site. How much yield could i realistically expect using the PF Tek with a 10cc syringe doing about 10jars after about 4 flushes. How much would the casing produce with these same variables?


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Re: Yield differences [Re: circusflea]
    #2230002 - 01/09/04 01:30 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

It is hard to say how much weight you will get from either cakes or casings.

I think I heard 10-30 grams wet weight per cake, but dont quote me on that number. Their are many variables to how well your cakes do, air exchange, humidity levels, temp, light.....many ways to reduce the flush size.

In wouldnt expect more than 3 flushes with each flush producing fewer shrooms.

The case will double your shroom weight but increase your contamination chances.


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Re: Yield differences [Re: niteowl]
    #2230019 - 01/09/04 01:35 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

If im looking to produce significant ammounts what way would be good for a newbie to start off. I want to produce anywhere from a quarter pound to pound.


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Re: Yield differences [Re: circusflea]
    #2230025 - 01/09/04 01:38 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

:-0.. dude if you can find a way to produce a qp on your first grow please, let us all know. If you really wanna grow alot probably try the straw log tech.. but i really doubt it could be done as a first grow


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Re: Yield differences [Re: circusflea]
    #2230035 - 01/09/04 01:41 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

You have to start slow, get the basics down then move on the the next step. You will have trouble getting thet much even when you get good.

Sounds like you need to check out the FAQ page.


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Re: Yield differences [Re: niteowl]
    #2230059 - 01/09/04 01:53 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

dude start out using the pf tek, make maybe 12 jars. it sounds like your looking to deal.. dont expect to do it without knowledge of what your doing. its easy to grow your own, takes a little more to sell


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Re: Yield differences [Re: Yarry]
    #2230129 - 01/09/04 02:37 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

naw.. just buy a few hundred jars and do pf style day and night ... Buy a couple of those huge PC's too theyll be handy.. Vendor can supply spores but if ur growin P's money for syringes wont matter


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Re: Yield differences [Re: Legoulash]
    #2230426 - 01/09/04 07:07 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)


Way back in the beginning of time someone picked up 8 cases of 1/2 pint jars and noc'd em all up. figured he'd had 1 success so all would be well.

After several weeks of making and pc'ing cakes he finally got em all done. he then put em all in one of those big truck size rubbermaids and started figuring out what he'd do with all the fruit.

A week goes by and he checks his jars.

out of 8 cases he ended up with maybe 10 jars that were useable.


Save yourself a lot of frustration and don't try to get some huge yeild until you've got the basics down.

Patience is a virtue we will all one day acquire, this hobby will teach it to you quickly or you'll not get very far.

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Re: Yield differences [Re: circusflea]
    #2232519 - 01/10/04 01:41 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Recentaly i picked my first flush, from my first grow. 58grams dry from 12 B+ PF cakes. I was very pleased. I did the "dunk and roll" tek, so i suggest you do it too! : )


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Re: Yield differences [Re: DieCommie]
    #2232680 - 01/10/04 04:11 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

If you want those kind of yields, invest in a pressure cooker and do it WBS Quart jar style. Then spawn to bulk neglect (pasteurized poo, straw). Case. Fruit. BAM! 1 dark cc is enough for a quart of WBS believe it or not.


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