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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: 404]
    #22296001 - 09/26/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You show up to a gunfight with rubber bullets. :goodluck:


They clearly told him to put his hands up 15+ times and he refused, instead reaching into his pocket and so they finished what he started with his .38 (witnesses said he had already shot himself at least once and was firing more into the air).


The only shotgun I see is the one the first responder held.


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: flickedbic]
    #22296022 - 09/26/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looked like he was pulling the shotgun out(maybe to put it on the ground or maybe to shoot) when all I could hear was put you hands up!
If he really wanted to live he should have put his fucking hands up.


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: flickedbic]
    #22296029 - 09/26/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i don't really think he was in the right state of mind, and that kind of drives that home. i don't think he was enough of a threat to be completely taken out like that, and i think he was looking to die.

yes, he was a threat as a bit of a wildcard, but again i think there was another possible way to deal with that. as pillar said, they could have tased him too. do you think it's right to give someone their deathwish?


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: 404]
    #22296045 - 09/26/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's OK to give them their death wish if you think they are going to harm you or another person especially when they have a gun. IMO


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: 404]
    #22296053 - 09/26/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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404 said:
No, you're definitely melting and being a huge crybaby about it.


rubber bullets are painful as fuck and your question is pretty retarded.

the shotgun was in his lap, how hard would it be to pummel him with really painful non-lethal rounds and position a few officers behind him to grab the shotgun out of his lap? not very difficult i would imagine.

maybe if you stopped getting so emotional about things you could actually utilize the part of your brain that deals with reason.

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I see no sign of him motioning for a gun. It does look like he reached into his pocket right before they shot him.
He should have known better, but the man is disabled and could have not been in the right state of mind.
He should have just been tazed. :nonono:

Buuuut, he also should have complied.

No one is totally in the right in this situation, but you already know who the courts will side with.





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how long would it take him to lift the barrel of the shotgun a foot and kill a cop?

Also, I seriously doubt most cops carry a gun with them loaded with rubber bullets.

I'm not saying the cops handled the situation all that great, but the guy was armed and being non responsive and moving his hands around near his waistline (i assume near the gun). What did he expect? Hell even when I'm not doing anything wrong and encounter the police I make sure I don't make sudden movements and keep my hands visible, it's common sense. I do thing police often escalate things too much and are quick on the trigger but I think it legally was justified. Also, guns are not instant death machines. There have been times people get shot 10 times in the chest and manage to run 50 yards before collapsing. If they wait until he has the shotgun in his hand and is raising it he could easily still manage to kill a cop or two


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22296061 - 09/26/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i'm not convinced he was trying to hurt anyone other than himself to be honest, but i could be very wrong here. just looked like he was out in the middle of the road. he had shot himself, and was firing into the air right? yeah firing into the air is not quite the same as firing horizontally towards other people.
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404 said:
No, you're definitely melting and being a huge crybaby about it.


rubber bullets are painful as fuck and your question is pretty retarded.

the shotgun was in his lap, how hard would it be to pummel him with really painful non-lethal rounds and position a few officers behind him to grab the shotgun out of his lap? not very difficult i would imagine.

maybe if you stopped getting so emotional about things you could actually utilize the part of your brain that deals with reason.

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I see no sign of him motioning for a gun. It does look like he reached into his pocket right before they shot him.
He should have known better, but the man is disabled and could have not been in the right state of mind.
He should have just been tazed. :nonono:

Buuuut, he also should have complied.

No one is totally in the right in this situation, but you already know who the courts will side with.





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how long would it take him to lift the barrel of the shotgun a foot and kill a cop?

Also, I seriously doubt most cops carry a gun with them loaded with rubber bullets.

I'm not saying the cops handled the situation all that great, but the guy was armed and being non responsive and moving his hands around near his waistline (i assume near the gun). What did he expect? Hell even when I'm not doing anything wrong and encounter the police I make sure I don't make sudden movements and keep my hands visible, it's common sense. I do thing police often escalate things too much and are quick on the trigger but I think it legally was justified. Also, guns are not instant death machines. There have been times people get shot 10 times in the chest and manage to run 50 yards before collapsing. If they wait until he has the shotgun in his hand and is raising it he could easily still manage to kill a cop or two





they carry a lot of equipment in their squad cars, i would imagine non-lethal weapons as well as lethal.


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: 404]
    #22296187 - 09/26/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The point is
If he was going to shoot himself then he was going to die anyways.
The police probably knew he wasnt a huge threat but why take the risk of letting him blast another person.

If he wanted to live he would've put his hands up but he grabbed his gun so they shot. That's what any logical person would have done I think.


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: 404]
    #22296581 - 09/26/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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404 said:
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Uzziel said:
Oh wait, you forgot to mention he's holding a loaded shotgun.

Whatever




:loldongs:

they could have EASILY subdued him with rubber bullets. what's he gonna do? roll his sorry ass off into the sunset?
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they gave the man what he wanted, suicide by cop, why are you condemning them for
granting the man his wish


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: Uzziel] * 1
    #22296770 - 09/27/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Uzziel said:
Oh wait, you forgot to mention he's holding a loaded shotgun.

Whatever



The story that I heard on the radio news was that the guy in the wheelchair was threatening to kill himself. That's why the police were called -- that's what the police understood was happening.


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: endogenous]
    #22296815 - 09/27/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I missed the shotgun..  I did see him go into his pocket though.

He was acting weird.  When he started lifting himself up on the arm rails on his chair, the warning lights kind of lit up.  That plus his 'nature'.. I cant really describe it, but if you see it enough times, you can see it.  I think he might have made a decison to not see night ,that day.  It has the feel he got what he was going for that day.

The video is blurry as all fuck though.


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: Amanita86]
    #22296819 - 09/27/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

read it. Either his uncle or whoever said he didn't have a gun, just a bookbag.


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: berdinwall] * 1
    #22296820 - 09/27/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Anyway I think it was suicide by cop. Anyone would know that reaching into your pants that obviously is going to get you shot. I think he was looking for ways to get them to shoot him at that point.


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: berdinwall]
    #22296837 - 09/27/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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read it. Either his uncle or whoever said he didn't have a gun, just a bookbag.



I did read it..still couldn't find a shotgun.  I have no clue what was in his front right pocket either.


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #22296891 - 09/27/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think he kept raising himself up in his chair to act like he was going to stand up or some shit.
Or maybe he just wanted to get comfortable before he died.
He seemed like he was in a crazy state of mind, but it's likely that he knew reaching into his pocket was not the right choice for self perseverance in that scenario.

It's a damn shame they couldn't just taze him and help him with therapy.


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #22297012 - 09/27/15 03:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You would think that the cops knew he was threatening to kill himself, since that's what the 911 operator was told.

The cops were like "stop trying to kill yourself -- or we'll kill you."


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: endogenous]
    #22297017 - 09/27/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

McDole, 28, was shot on Wednesday by several Wilmington police officers who were responding to a 911 call reporting that he had shot himself, according to authorities.

The graphic cellphone footage, filmed by a bystander, shows an officer approaching McDole on a street and shouting at him to put up his hands and drop a gun. A gunshot can be heard and a person behind the camera says McDole was struck and bleeding. Several other officers then join and make their own commands while McDole struggles in his wheelchair and moves his hands.

At that point, McDole appears to move to reach into the front of his jeans, just before several officers open fire.

No gun, other than those belonging to the officers, is visible in the video.

Police said on Thursday they had recovered a .38-caliber handgun that they said had been at his side.

McDole lived in a nearby nursing home, according to the Associated Press. Family members told local media that he had been using a wheelchair since he was shot and paralyzed at the age of 18.

His uncle, Eugene Smith, was among a crowd who gathered at the scene of the shooting on Thursday, the AP reported. “It was an execution,” Smith reportedly said. “That’s what it was. I don’t care if he was black, white, whatever.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/24/delaware-fatal-shooting-jeremy-mcdole


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: endogenous]
    #22297111 - 09/27/15 06:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Gun or not we don't have all the facts! wheelchairs weigh like 35lbs. He could've ran over those officers in a heartbeat, we don't even know for sure if it was motorized..
My grandma is in one and she hit my ankle one time, Big fn bruise! If I'd had a gun I might've shot her, I really dunno though..
Let's not prejudge, one of those cops could of went home with an ankle injury, maybe even wound up spending time in a wheelchair themselves?
FUCK wheelchairs man..


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Re: Graphic Video: White Police Execute Black Man in Wheelchair [Re: 404]
    #22297392 - 09/27/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When you have a loaded gun you have to comply immediately and fully with police or they will shoot and kill you. Once you are at that point you don't get any free passes.

all cops need to be wearing cameras or cameras should be attached to police Pistols so we can always review what actually happened and cops who do shoot people inappropriately should be given a zero tolerance consequence.


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