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I'm worried that the wrinkly and morphed appearance once again indicates a virus
They germinated on the 17th, under a 400w mh bulb and are about a foot and a half away from the light or so, i'll have to double check the distance.
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#22293166 - 09/26/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah i don't know for sure, but the leaves on my other plants started having growth mutations, forming off to one side or not on one side of the leaves. i chopped them before they could finish flowering, i was so worried about the potential viruses. i have some problems on my psychotria plant wonder if its the same issue, but these plants are young...
pH should be fine, my tap water is a little alkaline, at 8 i believe. i put a bunch of horticultural lime in with the soil to buffer it though, so i should be fine for the most part.
soil is fox farms, happy frog and ocean forest.
the containers are 2.5 gal, and there is one that might be a little bigger.
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22295279 - 09/26/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No concern. I never worried about virus problems, only bugs. They just need time to grow. No stretch, that's good too.
How many babies you got?
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: vinsue]
#22295409 - 09/26/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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three lil babies :3
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22300800 - 09/27/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you have pics of these leaves with mutated growth? The seedlings look kinda ok, they will probably do fine.
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: invitro]
#22300809 - 09/27/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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from my last project? unfortunately no, my last hard drive failed and i lost everything.
updated today


the other one looks pretty normal to me, didn't bother to take a pic.
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They are So young 404, I wouldn't worry too much.
They look healthy to me.. As leaves start to emerge, they can sometimes look crinkled or odd.. and my turn regular, as the plant grows and fills out. Mutant things I'd worry about would be..(the internodes look like the plant might be a hermaphrodite. . or varigated leaves). . LOL
Your babies you have there, look ok to me, so far.. keep us posted.
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#22303034 - 09/28/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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adding lime to the soil helps buffer against pH fluctuations considering it's neutral. learned that one from George Cervantes. i'll be adjusting the water going in, no worries. reason i did the lime this time, was because last time i had really acidic soil for some reason and had some lockout problems.
on the note of ferts and nutes, i'll be using organic, i'm probably going to get stuff from General Hydroponics.
the humidity on the other hand is noteworthy... as of right now, the rh is bout 30-40%, and may increase as the plants grow larger and transpire more. however, with a 430 cfm inline fan moving air through a 54 square foot space, this may not be the case.
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#22303088 - 09/28/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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same stuff... the happy frog has a lot of the humic acids, so i'm guessing it was that. i have thought about it, but haven't really taken the time to mess with it. thought about doing perlite + coco fiber + peat moss + compost
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#22308059 - 09/29/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dude fish emulsion is awesome especially for the beneficials
Will definetly keep those companies in mind,
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: sweetpea]
#22316928 - 10/01/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmmm... don't have any pictures this time... plants are growing pretty healthily for the most part...
saw a few spots on the plants though... looked like leaf miner tunnels, but on further inspection with a jewler's lupe, there was no leaf miner bug present... i've dealt with them before and they are a pain... but i'm not convinced this is them.
what would cause spots of lighter coloration in the leaves other than leaf miners? these aren't really tunnels, just spots. not curly lines that run far throughout the leaves... just spots, sometimes longer than they are wide...
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22317164 - 10/01/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kind of sounds like thrips to me. Are the spots like a tiny version of what leaf miners do (squiggly lines)?
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#22317192 - 10/01/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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no thrips here. no bugs of any sort that's noticeable, and like i said i couldn't even see miners in the leaves themselves even with the 30x magnification of the jeweler's lupe.
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22324578 - 10/02/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmm, seems like one of the seedlings (also the one in question) is growing ok, but lacks the green and seems like the edges of the leaves are curling up like it is having problems with respiration or that there is heat stress... which is funny because the other two are much healthier and green.
have been vaping a lot in the room and the intake notably is fixed to a side of the tent that directly passes over that particular seedling... ie, the air from the room moves directly over the seedling.
can veg glycerin and pg cause the moisture to suck out of the plant? will post a picture of it in an hour or so when the timer kicks over.
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22325832 - 10/02/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here they are.

I think the morphing has stopped for the most part.
The one i've mentioned is pretty easy to spot though. What gives?
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22326265 - 10/02/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mine start out like that 9 times out of 10 when I'm starting from seed. Has yet to become an issue. They literally look just like that too.
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#22326280 - 10/02/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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do they fill out later and become a little healthier down the line?
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22326389 - 10/02/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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They look on track if they germinated on 9/17. The leaves do look a little weirder than I thought though, and I only see it on the first set of leaves with mine. What's the temp in your grow space?
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#22326494 - 10/03/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im not sure but i would say maybe 78 give or take a couple of degrees. Its just that one plant though which is weird. It's situated where the cool air comes* in too
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Photo one, can someone please tell me what's going on here? Why the wrinkly mottled look? The other two look very healthy
I'm almost inclined to say that it is just the particular individual genetics of that one seed... all the other variables are the same for all the plants, even the soil save one which i added a little extra lime in the soil and it's very healthy.
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Those are very healthy looking plants!
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22334431 - 10/04/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Weird, they look like lettuce plants.
Perfect for camo-grows!
Im guessing they are Reut/Indica blend?
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#22334652 - 10/04/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hybrid. heavy indica expressing phenotype. Widow is the strain.
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22334702 - 10/04/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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How many inches from the curled plant to the light, and how many from the healthy plant to the light? Is there a difference in distance? Can you give a wider shot with all the plants and the light in one photo?
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: invitro]
#22334706 - 10/04/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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about 12 inches. no difference. i could take a photo, but i'm not sure there is a need to. i will double check the distance.
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#22334715 - 10/04/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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14 ish inches or so. again, what causes the wrinklyness?
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22334741 - 10/04/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Heat from the light. 400 watt is intense, I dunno why only one plant is getting like that but I think if you raise the lamp you'll solve the problem. I would raise it like 8 inches. That may be a bit much but you can always lower it later inch by inch to see what works. It's been a while since I had a set-up like yours. With the light on put your hand right on top of your plant, if your hand feels an uncomfortable amount of light, your plant is not comfortable either.
12" is really pushing it.
If the light is the problem, and I think it is, the leaf is drying out from the excessive heat, causing it to curl.
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why would the other plants be ok when this one plant is not at the same distance from the light? the heat is almost non existent as it is wicked away from the lamp with a powerful inline fan that moves the air through an enclosed fixture? i am almost certain the lights can be moved closer without too much of an issue. i did this before, and the plants did not like anything under 8 ish inches.
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#22334806 - 10/04/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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and yeah, with the leaf curl, that is exactly the first thing i thought as well. it just didn't match with the other two plants being the same distance.
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Hmm, I didn't know you had the inline fan. I'm just making an educated guess here but I'm reading on other forums that it could be Mg deficiency. 1 teaspoon/gallon might fix it...
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/problems-pests-disease-control/77134-leaves-curling-up-mg-defeciency-input-needed.html
What fertilizer are you using? If your going with GH then it's probably not a deficiency either...
I'd check the PH of the soil.
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the soil is good enough to last just over a month, but it is fox farms happy frog / ocean forest mixed with lime to buffer ph and add cal and mag as i stated earlier. i mean, i guess i could add some more and it wouldnt hurt...
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I did FF soil once and my plants were stressed after a week (to be fair I got heavy rains... ), then I fertilized them and they recovered.
I'm going to guess that the plant needs a bit of fertilizer.... Fe deficiency? I'd give it a light dose of GH grow or whatever you have.. I don't think that'll hurt.
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right on, i'll give it a whirl then. i have some veg stuff here. i might need to go get some new bottles though, this stuff is not only old, it was used on some plants i suspected contracted a virus.
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From your 3 recent pics, it looks like Plant #1 is getting too hot, which is why its getting left curling on the edges.
I would move it farther from the light source or spray it with water (or both) to help keep the moisture in the leaves.
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So then i have to ask again, why is this particular plant having problems with heat at the same distance? Is it just an individual insensitivity to heat or what? Same strain and all...
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toxic salt buildup can also cause this issue, however i have not added any additional fertilizers.
Lime neutralizes the pH, sweetpea. it only raises the pH if the soil is acidic. it is pH neutral at 7.0.
if anything, my tapwater is at 8, so it might be slightly too alkaline... but the others would be showing the same thing, and the lime should buffer against high pH as well.
all three plants are in the same soil mix, with the same distance from the light, with the same temperatures. how would any of them be any different?
i'm going to have to wait a day to take a pH sample and i have a feeling it's going to make me run the risk of overwatering them at this stage as i will essentially have to fill the entire container till i get runoff.
i will see about it in a couple days.
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I've had plants of same strain behave differently. She'll be growing like a weed in no time.
I always misted my plants in veg, once every other day minimum, more so as they got bigger and fuller. Just H2O, no foliage feeding.
I live in a dusty-ass 100 year old house w/ 3 cats... My grow wasn't in a 'tent', and with my intake/circulation fan at floor level, even filtered, my plants would get dusty. Plus it was a good way stir up any bugs hiding in the plants once they got bushy.(the plants, not the bugs ) I figure that they'd be getting rained on anyway if they were outside .
Also, I always kept a small bowl of water in my grow, one at soil level, then another one at canopy height when they got taller. Figured it would add humidity to my dry air environment. This also was a good way to monitor the presence of flying pests. They'd land on the water and drown.
I got a bag of FFOF early on that apparently was contaminated with gnats eggs or something, they just suddenly appeared when I started using that bag of soil. Treated the plants and after a few days, I never caught anymore gnats in my 'water traps', only an occasional fly or a tiny little green bee lookin' thing now and then.
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it is very curious as to why you are so insecure. both in ratings, and how you delete your post history. i took a look, and you've deleted quite a few posts. Pro-tip: if no one replies to your post, it becomes a ninja delete and no regular user can see it... best to not do that though.
seriously though, don't worry so much about what other people think of you. you provided some help both here and on the boards, which i appreciate but ya gotta stop with that stuff lol
@vinsue: i've been misting them a couple times a day for the added humidty and really trying to get that one particular plant to come around and be as beautiful as the other two. one is REALLY taking off now, and i'm about to top all of them.
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word of advice in case it wasn't already made known to you, it is highly looked down on upon to delete your posts, especially in mushroom hunting/id and cultivation. i'd imagine it is the case in other places as well... if the mods catch on they may ban you for that kind of behavior as it is against the rules last i checked. i deleted earlier posts when i first started here at the forums out of paranoia but i no longer do that.
as for the lime, i got the bag long ago. i checked it last night, it's definetly not quicklime (toxic to plants) and it's not hydrated lime which doesn't last as long as a buffer as regular lime. it's just good old gardening lime, i suspect it as Dolomite lime which the cultivation manual talks about. it's good stuff man, has plenty of magnesium and calcium to help the plant grow. i really recommend it as an additive as it's even helped the caapi and psychotria plants i have
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Word! Yeah i am almost certain This is dolomite lime, i'm gonna have to really check again, but i really think its that because it's a big heavy bag i picked up from a landscaping company for pretty cheap, forget what i paid.
The cultivation guide i tend to reference from is The Grow Bible by George Cervantes, awesome manual if you get a chance to pick it up.
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All of them got topped today, just pressed the terminal node far enough to pop it off. Did it with latex gloves too!
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Could be a sensitive plant. Do you rotate the plants daily, or leave them in one spot? I ask because some hoods//reflectors, and reflective surfaces can cause hot spots. Maybe worth looking into.
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Good to see you stoney, I'll be starting a log over on your side soon...
i noticed when i first set everything back up that it indeed was little brighter in this particular corner with this plant... i've just rotated them this morning... i've now checked on them about 30 minutes ago and i can't swear to it, but looks like there are some minor changes in the 'smoothness' of the newer growth... have not rotated up until this point
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See we shall. Hope it works out for ya, I hate seeing a plant in distress.. I'd also recommend getting that fan and filter hung at the top of the room, and off the floor.
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it's too heavy... it's impossible for just me to hoist it up there and strap it.. i wish i could do that. seems to work ok though where it is, plus the box said to keep it upright for some reason.
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update... new growth is skinny and very light green and this is what started happening on my other plants... i watered and fed last night and like a dummy forgot to pH the water to 7. i will be flushing in about 4 days time, or however long it takes to dry out the dirt and for the plants to get a lil thirsty.
stoney... i think it's about time i started that grow log tonight
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22391522 - 10/17/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wonder whats causing the skinny growth/light green coloring. Hmmmm...
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#22391550 - 10/17/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The pale color is an indication that the plant is doing work it cant afford to do nutrient wise. Probably lacking nitrogen at this stage. You want to go very light on nutrients for a plant so young though.
The leaf edge curl is an indication of heat stress. Raise your light further. That'll help it green up also.
Can you locate any gypsum?
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#22391560 - 10/17/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Derp. sorry haha... I was reading the last post on page 1...
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#22391571 - 10/17/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see.
What does gypsum do?
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#22391585 - 10/17/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Many impressive things. of the most use here: It corrects nutrient imbalances and unlocks nutrients. When you lack something, sometimes it is present but unusable. If you add more of this missing nutrient to corrects it, it becomes toxic (and still cant be used) Usually this is caused by the presence of a different nutrient in too high of an amount.
Gypsum is calcium. The master nutrient. It can be overdosed chemically but not in its organic form. It also has many other benefits to the soil. I cant say enough good things about what it does for cannabis soil.
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#22391596 - 10/17/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=55992
This link scratches the surface pretty well^
I use it heavily in all my soil mixes. Plants go insane. Seeds pop in 2 days and are vigorous...
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: sweetpea]
#22391648 - 10/17/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sweetpea said: Check your soil pH and look into iron deficiency and its causes.
Dude iron is a trace nutrient... it has iron for sure. If it was locked up it'd be because of some other issue..
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: sweetpea]
#22391707 - 10/17/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Idk man.. I didnt see him post a pic like yours. I know iron lockout can also be caused by stress which... your pic is showing heat stress also.
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Can someone please remove sweetpea from the thread? this post deletion business is really annoying, i asked them to stop but here we are. If you don't want to have your posts up, don't post at all. thanks.
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#22428457 - 10/24/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oeric McKenna said: Derp. sorry haha... I was reading the last post on page 1...
ah, are you referring to where you saw me using dolomite lime? jw
also, UPDATE! pics are here for better reference.



this is the one where the tips are becoming yellow. i should know what deficiency this is, but i've since forgotten. any ideas? this plant has a lot of dolomite in the soil which is the calcium and magnesium, should be 'unlocking' the nutrients by neutralizing the pH no?
i started giving them all pH adjusted water to 7.0 last watering which was several days ago.
i understand now that underwatering them will cause severe nutrient uptake issues, and i know the plants are just starting to droop. or, would i more likely see this in severe cases of underwatering?
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22429362 - 10/24/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yellow, can sometimes be iron deficiency. I would do a bit more research though.
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22429504 - 10/24/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've underwatered these plants, sometimes modestly, sometimes severely and I have never seen any kind of nutrient deficiency as a result. I'm confident that is not your problem.
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
#22429871 - 10/24/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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kizatzhaddarak said: Yellow, can sometimes be iron deficiency. I would do a bit more research though.
i do not think this is iron one bit. it's possible it could be over fert no ?
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22429965 - 10/24/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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kizatzhaddarak said: Yellow, can sometimes be iron deficiency. I would do a bit more research though.
i do not think this is iron one bit. it's possible it could be over fert no ?
Possible, I overfertilized a young plant that ended up looking exactly like that, I flushed it with like 5x the volume of soil that it was in and it recovered in a week or two. Never go over the max. recommended dose on the bottle of whatever your using...
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: invitro]
#22429977 - 10/24/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm just going to give it pH'd water then. when do you notice that a plant is starting to need nutrients? what are the first alerts
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404]
#22429998 - 10/24/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd go down a little on your ph, 6.5 or less... I never get deficiencies anymore. Because I stick to the directions on the bottle and my ph is naturally at 6 or 6.5 so I don't have to worry about it.
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Re: . [Re: 404] 1
#22430337 - 10/25/15 02:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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404 said: Can someone please remove sweetpea from the thread? this post deletion business is really annoying, i asked them to stop but here we are. If you don't want to have your posts up, don't post at all. thanks.
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yeah a saw that,
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Re: Should i be concerned about my seedlings? [Re: 404] 1
#22431988 - 10/25/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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when do you notice that a plant is starting to need nutrients? what are the first alerts
First sign is usually a change in growth rate, when food gets low they tend to slow down a bit. Other than that you can always watch out for deficiencies and toxicities. http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/357108#357108 Hope that link helps out.
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thanks man! what would you say the burning tips are on that one particular plant is then?
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Re: seedlings concern - now growlog! [Re: 404]
#22435342 - 10/26/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Man I wish my eyes would allow me to help you. But I can see the pics well enough to be sure. One eye says nute burn, the other says heat stress with a possible touch of over watering. I'll be honest the issues you're having is why I refuse to grow in soil.
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do you do soiless mixes with coco fiber and other amendments or do you prefer hydroponics?
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Re: seedlings concern - now growlog! [Re: 404]
#22436138 - 10/26/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Love hydro, flood and drains with sea of green was my favorite way to grow. Tho these days I've been doing the soil less thing with just perlite. Hempy buckets are fun, easy to manage, and productive. For me it's always been about the control factor.
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Tip burn is from over fertilizing.
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