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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#22309158 - 09/29/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: And by hostile, unfriendly way, he means "anything that is against my own opinions".
It's ok, that's how it's always worked at the shroomery. Once someone loses a debate, they either ignore the question or they stop posting in the thread.
That's not my experience.
Once someone loses -- or more to the point - they don't have any reasonable response to start with -- they turn to insult, abuse, and condescension, in order try to appear to be correct.
Of course, there will be those who share the same incorrect view, who will use the same tactics and act like they've won.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Shroomslip]
#22309214 - 09/29/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Well I guess it does kinda read that way. Still kinda taken out of context though. It's not as if that was my first reply in the thread
You were hostile, threatening, abusive and condescending throughout your posts. You stated that you would like to kill and cannibalize me 3 times - and the last time you gave your reasons for thinking you would be justified in doing it.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that you have actually killed people -
You, of course, have to somewhat dilute your true intentions and actions.
Big joke --
I'm not laughing.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22309657 - 09/29/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: And by hostile, unfriendly way, he means "anything that is against my own opinions".
Being as you are someone who expressed the desire to kill and commit cannibalism upon me, I guess that would qualify as "anything that is against my own opinions".
It's cool man, I'm sure he'd shoot you first.
Im kinda curious what some vegan long pork would taste like.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous] 2
#22309705 - 09/29/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You were hostile, threatening, abusive and condescending throughout your posts. You stated that you would like to kill and cannibalize me 3 times - and the last time you gave your reasons for thinking you would be justified in doing it.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that you have actually killed people -
You, of course, have to somewhat dilute your true intentions and actions.
Big joke --
I'm not laughing.
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Once someone loses -- or more to the point - they don't have any reasonable response to start with -- they turn to insult, abuse, and condescension, in order try to appear to be correct.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22309956 - 09/29/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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endogenous said: You stated that you would like to kill and cannibalize me 3 times
             
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: luvdemboomers]
#22311988 - 09/30/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What's the matter with you people? You didn't get your cocaine snort or your opiate fix, too much speed and belladonna today and got up on the wrong side of the the bed as usual?
Or are you just alcoholics?
Or maybe you're just plants from the extreme right wing to make it look bad for Mushrooms and Entheogens in general.
I was thinking of asking you if you said your pledge of allegiance to Charlie Manson today -- but then -- it's my belief that people like you made Manson look worse than he actually was.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: joe666]
#22311991 - 09/30/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Once someone loses -- or more to the point - they don't have any reasonable response to start with -- they turn to insult, abuse, and condescension, in order try to appear to be correct.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Shroomslip]
#22312034 - 09/30/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If the Truth sounds condescending, then so be it.
You people talk about slaughter of other animals and humans as well, as if it's a big joke.
That is exactly how Tex Watson sounded when he talked about how the people at Sharon Tate's house, who he murdered, ran around in terror and panic. He thought it was a big joke. He laughed alot about it.
That isn't what comes from Entheogens.
It is what comes from cocaine, opiates, alcohol, belladonna. etc.
That is why I am assuming that that is what you've been doing.
It's people like you who give Entheogens a bad name -- just as the "Manson followers" Tex Watson and Susan Atkins did to LSD. They were into belladonna and speed, but LSD got blamed.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous] 1
#22312053 - 09/30/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The truth is you're a fucking idiot who doesn't know what you're talking about and you're still yet to answer how guns are mostly used to kill or injure when billions of bullets are fired every year and the total amount of people shot or even how many times each one is shot collectively doesn't approach billions.
If that's condescending, then so be it. Now shut your mouth or I'll feed you to yourself Hannibal style and show you my Manson side.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Shroomslip]
#22312079 - 09/30/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I feel bad about the situation but this was obviously brought on by horrible lawyers. You can't prove negligence or intent because someone sold someone something that they used to kill someone with. That's like suing the kitchen knife makers for someone using it to murder another. It just doesn't work like that. This dude was just a loose cannon and would have done damage either way. I can't believe a lawyer would actually drag a victims family through this probably knowing that it was frivolous. Now I'm going to youtube funny judge judy moments. lol
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22312112 - 09/30/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If your brain wasn't so addled you would have seen that I already answered that question. I didn't say that guns are mostly used to kill or maim.
To repeat my answer:
The majority of people buy guns for protection. That means that their main intended purpose is to kill or maim someone -- in the event that something happens where the person feels the need to defend themselves. It doesn't mean that they end up necessarily using the weapon.
And it is you who is going to get eaten by yourself. The Manson side of you has already been in full display. Of course, it isn't surprising that you haven't been conscious of that.
Sheesh.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22312128 - 09/30/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I saw you post that, that however does not explain how most guns are used to kill or injure. Maybe if YOUR brain wasn't so deficient from living off of roughage you'd be able to see the distinction between intention and use. Shall I go back and quote where you said in this thread that most guns are used to kill or injure in those exact words?
Also that thing you quoted, said 48% said that. That is definitely less than the "vast majority". There's also another distinction to be made, many people who buy guns for protection do so in the hopes they will never have to use it. It's not so much they intend to shoot someone, as it is having the option if the need arises. Many will never even have to use it. Their intention is protection, very few people go out and buy guns hoping to get to shoot a mother fucker.
Your argument is trash and you can't follow logic at all. You should really get some animal protein in your diet.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Gorlax]
#22312151 - 09/30/15 02:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: Well I feel bad about the situation but this was obviously brought on by horrible lawyers. You can't prove negligence or intent because someone sold someone something that they used to kill someone with. That's like suing the kitchen knife makers for someone using it to murder another. It just doesn't work like that. This dude was just a loose cannon and would have done damage either way. I can't believe a lawyer would actually drag a victims family through this probably knowing that it was frivolous. Now I'm going to youtube funny judge judy moments. lol
I said this before:
The main purpose of a car is not to kill or maim someone but you have to show several forms of i.d. to get a license and you have to register the car.
The main purpose of a gun is to kill or maim someone. Yet, in many states, you can get one without showing i.d. and without needing to register it.
There should be background checks, registration, and licensing -- both for the guns and the ammunition. And things like armor piercing, (cop-killer) bullets should not be available .
Didn't it occur to anyone that people who are into pisil (pseudo-islamic state) could get guns, ammo and bullets just as easily as James Holmes?
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Shroomslip]
#22312192 - 09/30/15 02:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: I saw you post that, that however does not explain how most guns are used to kill or injure. Maybe if YOUR brain wasn't so deficient from living off of roughage you'd be able to see the distinction between intention and use. Shall I go back and quote where you said in this thread that most guns are used to kill or injure in those exact words?
Also that thing you quoted, said 48% said that. That is definitely less than the "vast majority". There's also another distinction to be made, many people who buy guns for protection do so in the hopes they will never have to use it. It's not so much they intend to shoot someone, as it is having the option if the need arises. Many will never even have to use it. Their intention is protection, very few people go out and buy guns hoping to get to shoot a mother fucker.
This was my reply to Enlil -- 2 DAYS AGO who asked this same exact question. When are you going to hear it?
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I'm obviously talking about intent.
They may not ever feel that they need to use it, and they may not ever actually use it - but the reason they own it is so if they feel they're in danger, they're going to kill or injure someone in order to protect themselves.
The main purpose of a gun is to kill or injure someone. Whether that happens or not is a different question.
-- http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22301092#22301092
And here are the stats on why people buy guns (from 2013):
protection - 48% hunting - 32% target/sport shooting - 7% 2nd amendment - 2% collect guns - 2% other 7% don't know 1%
The vast majority buy them for protection.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22312206 - 09/30/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's what they get. It's a stupid mentality of "lets sue everybody fucking ever." It's not the ammo company's fault some fuck shot a bunch of other fucks, one of which fucks was their fuck daughter.
If you're really appalled by it, then get the fucking laws changed don't start some dumbass litigation for fiscal compensation.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22312207 - 09/30/15 02:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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endogenous said: Whereas, bullets, guns, and gas grenades are weapons and their use is usually to kill or cause injury - but background checks, i.d., registrations and licenses are not required.
Okay so I was wrong on the exact wording, I was confusing your post and Maka's reply, however the end result is still the same and my question is still valid.
I'm just gonna ignore the gas grenade portion seeing as they are almost NEVER used to kill.
How are guns usually used to kill when the vast majority (and I AM using it in the correct sense) of bullets fired are never aimed at a living target?
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22312214 - 09/30/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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By the way -- I'm a lacto/ovo vegetarian (milk and eggs). I get plenty of protein. Probably alot more than you -- and better quality too.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22312215 - 09/30/15 02:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nah man, milk and eggs don't have shit on steak and ribs.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Shroomslip]
#22312219 - 09/30/15 02:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Unless he eats the eggs rocky style.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22313060 - 09/30/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil said: First, you're wrong. Background checks and ID are both required to purchase many firearms.
I'll have to get back on the issue of the gun laws themselves when there's more time. There are quite a few states that don't require i.d., licenses, registration, or background checks.
it's a federal law, the states cannot opt out
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Second, please cite a source for you outrageous claim that weapons are "usually to kill or cause injury" There are over 300,000,000 firearms in this nation. I seriously doubt that even 1% of those firearms have harmed a person.
I'm obviously talking about intent.
They may not ever feel that they need to use it, and they may not ever actually use it - but the reason they own it is so if they feel they're in danger, they're going to kill or injure someone in order to protect themselves.
The main purpose of a gun is to kill or injure someone. Whether that happens or not is a different question.
clearly you arent talking about intent, you're obviously talking about your perception of someone elses intent because about 20% of the weapons purchased were purchased with the intent to use as a defensive weapon, more than half of those are left in safes at home and less than 5% are carried by civilians in this country for self defense. the majority of guns are purchased as part of a collection, for target shooting and for hunting
there are as many vehicles in this country as there are guns, those vehicles are responsible for more deaths than the guns, those cars were purchased with the intent to use as transportation and in most cases that's what they've been, and while I'm sure it wasnt the intent of the majority of those people to use their cars as weapons, it still happens. Should I sue Exxon or BP for providing the gas to the guy that deliberately used his car to run over one of my family members?
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