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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Enlil]
    #22296861 - 09/27/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
    #22296876 - 09/27/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm getting kinda tired of hearing the anti-gun people constantly say a gun's only purpose is to kill. It just proves how little you actually know about them.

According to that logic, then a huge portion of the US is nothing but murderers. Shit I must've killed thousands people already (how many times I've shot my guns). There are probably billions of bullets fired every year in America with the vast majority being used in sport/recreational shooting.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #22296882 - 09/27/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This is loosely relevant..  But a few weeks ago I got super high with my lady and we went to see a movie at the theater of the Aurora shooting...  It was a little creepy, there were very few patrons, and the theater attendant came into the theater way more often than typical...  I found myself hyper sensitive to any noise coming from the neighboring theatre...  I don't think I'm going to do that again.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Mojo]
    #22296892 - 09/27/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'd feel pretty safe going to that theater. Sure some nut may decide to be a copy cat, but what is more likely to happen is they would find a different theater to shoot up if that was their intention. If you are attempting to kill a lot of people, you don't want to do it where people are hyper-vigilant and even bordering on full blown paranoia. You do it where no one really expects it.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22296906 - 09/27/15 02:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A gunmen would also probably want a big crowd.  I don't think very many people go to that theatre anymore.  There were only about ~5 other people in the theatre when I was there..  It's probably a great place to find tickets for premiers...


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Mojo] * 1
    #22296959 - 09/27/15 02:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
    #22296960 - 09/27/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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endogenous said:

Don't know if someone already said this.

The psycho shooter was able to buy armor-piercing bullets, body armor, gas grenades -- all without showing i.d. -- much less being required to have a license.

You're required to have registration for a car. Why? Cars are not usually bought in order to kill or do damage to people. But here is an instrument whose only purpose is to kill or damage someone. And there's no registration required -- no i.d. required -- no background checks -- nothing.

Nothing, that is, other than 12 people dead and 70 injured.




So? What's your point?  That wouldn't of made a fuckin difference.  The shooting would of still happened.  Gotta say man all your threads are far left wing, liberal to the max, and equally annoying.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Enlil]
    #22296989 - 09/27/15 03:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Enlil said:
You're not required to have a license to buy gas, though.



Are you referring to gasoline?


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
    #22296991 - 09/27/15 03:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's what he said..


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: lowbrow]
    #22297006 - 09/27/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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lowbrow said:
Quote:

endogenous said:

Don't know if someone already said this.

The psycho shooter was able to buy armor-piercing bullets, body armor, gas grenades -- all without showing i.d. -- much less being required to have a license.

You're required to have registration for a car. Why? Cars are not usually bought in order to kill or do damage to people. But here is an instrument whose only purpose is to kill or damage someone. And there's no registration required -- no i.d. required -- no background checks -- nothing.

Nothing, that is, other than 12 people dead and 70 injured.




So? What's your point?  That wouldn't of made a fuckin difference.  The shooting would of still happened.  Gotta say man all your threads are far left wing, liberal to the max, and equally annoying.



Hey -- at least your user name was correct. :smile:

Here's some more "far left wing liberals to the max" who voted in favor of gun control:

Republicans voting FOR gun control:

    Susan Collins (R-Maine)
    Mark Kirk (R-Ill.)
    John McCain (R-Ariz.)




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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
    #22297373 - 09/27/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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endogenous said:
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KrishnaDreamer said:
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Yes. A symptom of having too many guns.

But you're totally fine with selling unhinged people 4000 bullets.




How were the dealers supposed to know the attacker was mentally unstable? It's not like you can do anything with ammo without a gun, and if the guy had been committed in a mental institution he wouldn't have been able to buy a weapon.

Also people buy bulk cases all the time, because it's cheaper and you save on shipping.



Don't know if someone already said this.

The psycho shooter was able to buy armor-piercing bullets, body armor, gas grenades -- all without showing i.d. -- much less being required to have a license.

You're required to have registration for a car. Why? Cars are not usually bought in order to kill or do damage to people. But here is an instrument whose only purpose is to kill or damage someone. And there's no registration required -- no i.d. required -- no background checks -- nothing.

Nothing, that is, other than 12 people dead and 70 injured.




You could literally build a bomb using fertilizer, following something as simple as a cake recipe, you want people to register fertilizer? What about home Chemists that order chemicals? No IDs needed there either, unless it's something like a precursor chem.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #22297381 - 09/27/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Another thing... they weren't fucking armor piercing

They were standard 5.56 steel tip ammo that everyone and their brother with a 223 uses for plinking

He would have done more damage with hunting rounds


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
    #22297541 - 09/27/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

endogenous said:
Quote:

lowbrow said:
Quote:

endogenous said:

Don't know if someone already said this.

The psycho shooter was able to buy armor-piercing bullets, body armor, gas grenades -- all without showing i.d. -- much less being required to have a license.

You're required to have registration for a car. Why? Cars are not usually bought in order to kill or do damage to people. But here is an instrument whose only purpose is to kill or damage someone. And there's no registration required -- no i.d. required -- no background checks -- nothing.

Nothing, that is, other than 12 people dead and 70 injured.




So? What's your point?  That wouldn't of made a fuckin difference.  The shooting would of still happened.  Gotta say man all your threads are far left wing, liberal to the max, and equally annoying.



Hey -- at least your user name was correct. :smile:

Here's some more "far left wing liberals to the max" who voted in favor of gun control:

Republicans voting FOR gun control:

    Susan Collins (R-Maine)
    Mark Kirk (R-Ill.)
    John McCain (R-Ariz.)








All of those people are RINO's.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: koods]
    #22297542 - 09/27/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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This is from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lonnie-and-sandy-phillips/lucky-gunner-lawsuit_b_8197804.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

We knew the risks of bringing the case. We knew that Colorado and Congress have given special protection of the gun industry, and we knew that under Colorado law we could even be ordered to pay attorneys' fees because of those special protections.




Nothing more needs to be said. They knew the risks, they took the risks.

Oh and then this too:

Quote:

The horrific and public execution of our daughter Jessi and 11 other beautiful young lives has given us a brief window of opportunity to bring awareness to the number one public health crisis facing this nation today which is rampant gun violence.




Gun violence is a symptom. The real crisis is how many mentally unhinged insane people are out there who think killing a bunch of people is a good idea.




Yes. A symptom of having too many guns.

But you're totally fine with selling unhinged people 4000 bullets.




I have to admit, I'm not saying I think they are responsible for paying. However, what can one expect from a seriously grieving family? These people saw their daughter executed by a psychopath.

There is no accountability for the amount of insane people walking the streets in this country anymore. I'm not saying I feel the ammunition company should be sued for selling ammunition to a psychopath. But I'm not saying they shouldn't. Why not sue them?

Should that man have had weapons? Even better question: who should be sued? The government? Why should this person have been walking around on the streets abroad regardless of where he got the ammunition? In some way shape or form should society not be responsible for the fact that this guy should not have been free with weapons walking around the street? Who is responsible, no one?


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: koods]
    #22297549 - 09/27/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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koods said:
Exactly. When gangs have easy access to guns, they use them




maybe gang affiliation should disqualify a person from owning a gun just like being mentally ill. maybe pictures of tattoos should have to be submitted with a carry permit application, and if any are found to be possibly gang related a deeper investigation into that persons background should be preformed.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #22297552 - 09/27/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Why not sue them?



One good reason not to sue them was that they have no legal claim against the ammo vendor and were likely to end up having to pay the vendor's attorneys' fees.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: trscstghst] * 1
    #22297557 - 09/27/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

that's right gang bangers don't get carry permits or buy their guns from a store


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: trscstghst]
    #22297561 - 09/27/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

trscstghst said:
Quote:

koods said:
Exactly. When gangs have easy access to guns, they use them




maybe gang affiliation should disqualify a person from owning a gun just like being mentally ill. maybe pictures of tattoos should have to be submitted with a carry permit application, and if any are found to be possibly gang related a deeper investigation into that persons background should be preformed.



Why stop at gang affiliation?  Why not use political party affiliation?  Or perhaps family history?  Maybe even use religious affiliation? 

When the government gets to decide who gets guns and who doesn't based on what friends one chooses, we might as well throw away the Constitution because it's worthless at that point.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #22297578 - 09/27/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

KrishnaDreamer said:
Quote:

endogenous said:
Quote:

KrishnaDreamer said:
Quote:

koods said:
Yes. A symptom of having too many guns.

But you're totally fine with selling unhinged people 4000 bullets.




How were the dealers supposed to know the attacker was mentally unstable? It's not like you can do anything with ammo without a gun, and if the guy had been committed in a mental institution he wouldn't have been able to buy a weapon.

Also people buy bulk cases all the time, because it's cheaper and you save on shipping.



Don't know if someone already said this.

The psycho shooter was able to buy armor-piercing bullets, body armor, gas grenades -- all without showing i.d. -- much less being required to have a license.

You're required to have registration for a car. Why? Cars are not usually bought in order to kill or do damage to people. But here is an instrument whose only purpose is to kill or damage someone. And there's no registration required -- no i.d. required -- no background checks -- nothing.

Nothing, that is, other than 12 people dead and 70 injured.




You could literally build a bomb using fertilizer, following something as simple as a cake recipe, you want people to register fertilizer? What about home Chemists that order chemicals? No IDs needed there either, unless it's something like a precursor chem.




Some people think so.

The difference is fertilizer is bought to fertilize the soil that plants grow in. Bullets are bought to fire fast moving projectiles. Bullets are sold as parts of a weapon. At the very least they are used for target practice. But they have no practical purpose

Fireworks in most places are only sold in July because of how dangerous they are and the fact that the explosives can be made into more dangerous devices. Why in the damn world is registering sold explosive projectiles so much more strange of a concept then regulating fireworks?


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Enlil]
    #22297589 - 09/27/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Enlil said:
Quote:

trscstghst said:
Quote:

koods said:
Exactly. When gangs have easy access to guns, they use them




maybe gang affiliation should disqualify a person from owning a gun just like being mentally ill. maybe pictures of tattoos should have to be submitted with a carry permit application, and if any are found to be possibly gang related a deeper investigation into that persons background should be preformed.



Why stop at gang affiliation?  Why not use political party affiliation?  Or perhaps family history?  Maybe even use religious affiliation? 

When the government gets to decide who gets guns and who doesn't based on what friends one chooses, we might as well throw away the Constitution because it's worthless at that point.




It's the government I feel should be sued. That man should not have had access to weapons or even been able to walk around the streets for that matter. He was clearly mentally ill.


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