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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22379644 - 10/14/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why would you sue the ammo distributor because someone they supplied shot your family member? it makes no sense. this is the stupidest thing ive ever read.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: ShortbusExplosion]
    #22379681 - 10/14/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why would you sue the ammo distributor because someone they supplied shot your family member? it makes no sense. this is the stupidest thing ive ever read.




Exactly why they are now being counter-sued for $203k because they wasted time and money of the supplier taking them to court.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Uzziel]
    #22379700 - 10/14/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They weren't countersued.  The judge awarded attorneys fees to the defendants


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Enlil]
    #22380281 - 10/14/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Enlil said:
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Enlil said:
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when the mother of the girl who was killed said it 4 times in the article I quoted.


That's not evidence unless she's a qualified expert.  Is she?
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Yeah right -- the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence doesn't know anything about armor piercing bullets.


Most likely, they don't.  Even if they do, that means nothing.  They're attorneys, and they filed a complaint.  None of that is evidence.

Again I ask, do you have any evidence that Holmes had armor piercing rounds?




Come on. Are you really a lawyer? You think these lawyers are going to take a case pro bono and sue a company for selling armor-piercing bullets when that's not what they were?

I mean even if they were getting paid they wouldn't do that.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous] * 1
    #22380316 - 10/14/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)
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Lol, really? 

I take it you have no evidence.  Fair enough.

To put this to rest right now, I just read the entire complaint filed in the case.  Nowhere in it does it allege that Holmes used, or that the defendants supplied, armor-piercing ammunition.

Now, it's time to admit you're wrong.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22381037 - 10/14/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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any bullet that can penetrate kevlar is an armor piercing bullet, this covers all
rifles, once again, dead is dead and the tool used to make someone dead isnt the
problem, it's the dickhead that used the tool that is the problem

if you believe that guns are the problem then we need to cut all the killers loose
and put their weapons on trial for the murders they've committed




Not according to the ATF

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18 U.S.C., § 921(a)(17)(B)

    A projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
   
    A full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.









we arent talking about the ATFs definition, we're talking about the
media/grieving parents and other libtard anti gun activists. the
ATF hasnt presented a case


now here's an example of AP rounds, you think he paid $300 for 20 rounds of ammo?
he bought 4000 rounds according to the article, are we expected to believe that
holmes bought $60k in ammo? I'd love to see the recipts

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=515223991

here's the lucky gunner website, maybe you can link us to the cop killer bullets
and the armor piercing ammo, because you know, it's easy to find

http://www.luckygunner.com


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
    #22381052 - 10/14/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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endogenous said:
Come on. Are you really a lawyer? You think these lawyers are going to take a case pro bono and sue a company for selling armor-piercing bullets when that's not what they were?

I mean even if they were getting paid they wouldn't do that.




enlil is in fact a real attorney


got photos of the bullets he bought, the bullets themselves will tell you if they're AP rounds or not


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Enlil]
    #22381066 - 10/14/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Now, it's time to admit you're wrong.




:hahthatscute:
Yeah like that's going to happen. Guarantee he's coming back and gonna say something like "Do you think the lawyers would've filed a suit and that the mother would've said 4 times in the article they were AP rounds if they weren't?"


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Enlil]
    #22381131 - 10/14/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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They weren't countersued.  The judge awarded attorneys fees to the defendants




Ah ok. I thought they were. Thanks for the clearing that up


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22381261 - 10/14/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I have not come across a single online retailer that will ship you a gun anywhere but a licensed FFL dealer which will require a background check.




This.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22381285 - 10/14/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote it 10 more times, in 2 pages he's going to be repeating the same thing over again.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
    #22381558 - 10/15/15 12:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

4:30 p.m.

AURORA | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Agent Sarah Burnett testified that she examined the AR-15 rifle police say Holmes used during the attack.
[...]
Burnett said there was a round in the chamber as well and had she touched the trigger the gun would have fired. That .223-caliber round in the chamber had a green tip on the bullet, something Burnett said often signifies that a bullet is armor-piercing.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
    #22381598 - 10/15/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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4:30 p.m.

AURORA | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Agent Sarah Burnett testified that she examined the AR-15 rifle police say Holmes used during the attack.
[...]
Burnett said there was a round in the chamber as well and had she touched the trigger the gun would have fired. That .223-caliber round in the chamber had a green tip on the bullet, something Burnett said often signifies that a bullet is armor-piercing.





awwww... so some Obamatard official is claiming the m855 ammo as armor piercing

like I said, let's see the actual ammo he bought

http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/ammunition/military-ammunition-and-why-green-tip-m855-is-not-armor-piercing/

AP stands for anti-personnel not armor piercing when it comes to green tips


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22381615 - 10/15/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I thought about telling him to Google why green tip is not armor piercing, even wrote up the reply, then just said fuck it because it's not like he's going to learn anything anyways.


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22381618 - 10/15/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

black tips are armor piercing, any rifle round will go through soft armor making
them armor piercing by the media standpoint


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22381623 - 10/15/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How much you wanna bet 2 pages later he's still going to be saying he used armor piercing rounds?


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22381631 - 10/15/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How much you wanna bet 2 pages later he's still going to be saying he used armor piercing rounds?





he's still claiming austrailia is safe since the gun ban. the reality, austrailia kills


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
    #22381661 - 10/15/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

"Dr. Jonathan Woodcock, one of the first defense witnesses to take the stand, interviewed Holmes four days after the July 20, 2012, shooting to determine if he was competent to stand trial and then again earlier this year when he was asked by the defense to testify on Holmes' sanity.
[...]
Under the prosecutor's questioning, Woodcock acknowledged that he didn't ask about or remember key details, such as why Holmes wore head-to-toe body armor, why he bought tear gas or that he used steel-piercing bullets."
-- http://news.yahoo.com/prosecutors-doctor-found-theater-shooter-insane-080837934.html


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
    #22381720 - 10/15/15 01:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

"Jury finds James Holmes guilty of first-degree murder in theater shooting
...
Holmes had brought 700 rounds of ammunition. Metal piercing bullets went through seats — and even through walls into Theater 8. " -- http://wqad.com/2015/07/16/verdict-reached-in-colorado-movie-theater-shooting/


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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
    #22381725 - 10/15/15 01:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm: You think some plastic/sheet metal, some fabric and some sheetrock is going to stop any bullet? I could go in there with normal copper jackets and achieve the same thing.

This all just knee jerk bullshit to make it sound worse than it really is.


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