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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous] 2
#22366408 - 10/12/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jesus fucking Christ. How many goddamned fucking times do I have to tell you how stupid the rhetoric you continually spew is entirely unfounded.
VAST MAJORITY OF GUNS ONLY PURPOSE IS TARGET PRACTICE OR FOR SPORT SHOOTING. ANOTHER LARGE PERCENT ARE FOR HUNTING. THE ABSOLUTE VAST MAJORITY OF GUNS BOUGHT AND BULLETS FIRED ARE NOT INTENDED TO KILL SOMEONE.
Can I just fucking eat you already? You are beyond all redemption or value.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22366449 - 10/12/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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endogenous said:
And here are the stats on why people buy guns (from 2013):
protection - 48% hunting - 32% target/sport shooting - 7% 2nd amendment - 2% collect guns - 2% other 7% don't know 1%
The vast majority buy them for protection. I wanted to add to this that although I'm sure you gun advocates don't consider your fellow beings (animals, etc.) as "someone" - I do consider my fellow beings as someone. That means that 80% of people who own guns have them for the main purpose of killing or harming someone.
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Do you believe in karma?
What's with the Droopy thing?
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22366467 - 10/12/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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endogenous said: The point I was originally trying to make was that people do not buy cars for the purpose of harming or killing anyone, but for the purpose of transporting themselves. The vast majority of people who buy guns, buy them for the purpose of killing or harming a fellow being whether that being is an animal or a criminal, or their spouse or schoolmates. I am not considering whether or not people should be allowed to own guns -- only what the intended purpose is.
People have to get registrations, insurance, and licenses to buy cars. It should be mandatory for people to get these things for guns, and background checks should be added to the list. The licenses should be like for cars also -- they should have to demonstrate that they know how to use the gun safely.
There should be no one who can purchase a gun without these things.
so are you another of the ignorant that believes that a background check isnt done when a person buys a gun. if this licensing, insurance and the little questionnaire/5 minutes road driving they call a driving test is sufficient to ensure the public safety, why are there millions with DUIs, why are tens of thousands killed each year by cars? did the registration of a car save any lives?
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endogenous
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22366504 - 10/12/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Many state laws don't require it for many sales. The federal law governs mainly interstate sales other than for handguns, and even for handguns private sellers are not covered.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22366521 - 10/12/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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endogenous said: And here are the stats on why people buy guns (from 2013):
protection - 48% hunting - 32% target/sport shooting - 7% 2nd amendment - 2% collect guns - 2% other 7% don't know 1%
The vast majority buy them for protection.
Since when is 48% a vast majority?
It's not even a majority, let alone vast.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22366552 - 10/12/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's 80%.
And if it was an election and one candidate had 48% while the other leading candidate had 32% -- it would be considered a landslide for the winner.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22366602 - 10/12/15 03:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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endogenous said: It's 80%.
And if it was an election and one candidate had 48% while the other leading candidate had 32% -- it would be considered a landslide for the winner.
Quit talking to yourself.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: lowbrow]
#22366629 - 10/12/15 03:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Guns don't shoot people, people shoot guns and guns shoot bullets. I can't stress this enough.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: abltsandwich]
#22366714 - 10/12/15 04:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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not getting involved again in this one
just not fuckning doing it
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous] 1
#22366842 - 10/12/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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endogenous said: Many state laws don't require it for many sales. The federal law governs mainly interstate sales other than for handguns, and even for handguns private sellers are not covered.
horse shit, you clearly dont know shit about gun laws
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22369121 - 10/12/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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endogenous said: Many state laws don't require it for many sales. The federal law governs mainly interstate sales other than for handguns, and even for handguns private sellers are not covered.
horse shit, you clearly dont know shit about gun laws
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22371719 - 10/13/15 02:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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endogenous said: Many state laws don't require it for many sales. The federal law governs mainly interstate sales other than for handguns, and even for handguns private sellers are not covered.
horse shit, you clearly dont know shit about gun laws
All bark and no bite.
Citations?
These are the ones I was looking at: State laws -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state
Federal laws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22372133 - 10/13/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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name one single state in which I can walk into a gun store and not have a concealed carry permit, purchase any firearm and not fave to fill out some ATF form 4473 and submit to a background check through a state or federal agency...
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22373913 - 10/13/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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We were talking about the gun laws. I do not own a gun and do not want to own one. I haven't visited individual gun stores in the states where the laws don't require licenses or registrations but being as a gun store is in business to make money, I can't imagine that any store would require licenses and registrations if they aren't required.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22373920 - 10/13/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: you clearly dont know shit about gun laws
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Shroomslip]
#22373926 - 10/13/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said:
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Prisoner#1 said: you clearly dont know shit about gun laws
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: Achillita]
#22373983 - 10/13/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Obviously, none of you know the law so your posts are all bark and no bite.
And I already posted a video showing abc news purchasing handguns and assault weapons at a gun show without having to even show id.
But thanks for showing that you think condescension and insult will prove your point when you obviously are in the wrong.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22373988 - 10/13/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gun shows and private sales are generally exempt from background checks
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: zappaisgod]
#22373999 - 10/13/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Gun shows and private sales are generally exempt from background checks
Apparently, you also don't know shit about gun laws.
There is no exemption for gun show sales. Any sale, any where, by a licensed dealer requires a check.
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Re: We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer [Re: endogenous]
#22374013 - 10/13/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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endogenous said: Obviously, none of you know the law so your posts are all bark and no bite.
And I already posted a video showing abc news purchasing handguns and assault weapons at a gun show without having to even show id.
But thanks for showing that you think condescension and insult will prove your point when you obviously are in the wrong.
Many of us do know the law. If you buy a gun from a licensed dealer, be it at the shop, over the internet, at a gun show or out of the trunk of his car... a background check is required by federal law.
The only exception is that some states allow the background check for a concealed carry permit... to act as a background check for gun purchases.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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