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my watch is getting slower
    #22291619 - 09/26/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

ok so i wear a digital watch, i've had it for a very long time.

this may have been happening for a long time but its just recently that ive noticed this .

so i have a secondary clock that is aligned with the correct time and beeps every hour.

my watch also beeps every hour.

but over the past few weeks its been getting slower. like my watch is losing time, i started realizing this when it would beep 6 seconds after the corrected time one. and every day it slows another half second. it's currently 14 seconds behind all the other clocks.

how is this possible? like if the battery was dying, wouldn't it just suddenly stop at some point, and not literally go slower? could the quartz be fucked?

am i actually moving slower in time than the rest of the universe , because the watch is on me? i rarely take it off.


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Re: my watch is getting slower [Re: Salomon]
    #22291645 - 09/26/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If the battery was dying, this is likely what would be happening, it won't necessarily suddenly switch off, it's happened to watches of mine in the past. Switch the battery up and see if you're in sync with the universe again. :lol:


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Re: my watch is getting slower [Re: Into The Woods] * 1
    #22291648 - 09/26/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

its the world moving on dude.


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Re: my watch is getting slower [Re: Into The Woods]
    #22292008 - 09/26/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If the battery was dying, this is likely what would be happening,




iawtc

change the battery


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Re: my watch is getting slower [Re: Salomon] * 1
    #22293650 - 09/26/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Salomon said:
so i have a secondary clock that is aligned with the correct time and beeps every hour.

my watch also beeps every hour.

[...]

am i actually moving slower in time than the rest of the universe , because the watch is on me? i rarely take it off.





Your secondary clock, I'm guessing, is stationary?

Your watch is not.

Objects that move faster, cause Time to tick slower. This is a known theory that goes back to Albert Einstein.

You're a walking physics experiment and you didn't even know it.


OR...

A quarts crystal vibrates at a certain frequency when electricity is passed through it. Change the electricity, and I believe you change the frequency of the crystal resonance (lower the voltage, lower the frequency, slower the clock?).


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Re: my watch is getting slower [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22293696 - 09/26/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:smug:


batteries are for chumps, i'm working entropy up in dis bitch


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Re: my watch is getting slower [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22295411 - 09/26/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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A quarts crystal vibrates at a certain frequency when electricity is passed through it. Change the electricity, and I believe you change the frequency of the crystal resonance (lower the voltage, lower the frequency, slower the clock?).




It's an oscillating crystal; it has a resonant frequency that is a property of the material, itself. If it weren't a digital watch I'd say it probably just can't move the gears all the time but in a digital watch, idk o.o

Maybe it's low enough to be affecting the circutry? As in skipping TTL pulses or something.


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Re: my watch is getting slower [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22296470 - 09/26/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Salomon said:
so i have a secondary clock that is aligned with the correct time and beeps every hour.

my watch also beeps every hour.

[...]

am i actually moving slower in time than the rest of the universe , because the watch is on me? i rarely take it off.





Your secondary clock, I'm guessing, is stationary?

Your watch is not.

Objects that move faster, cause Time to tick slower. This is a known theory that goes back to Albert Einstein.

You're a walking physics experiment and you didn't even know it.


OR...

A quarts crystal vibrates at a certain frequency when electricity is passed through it. Change the electricity, and I believe you change the frequency of the crystal resonance (lower the voltage, lower the frequency, slower the clock?).




For a simple wrist watch to have suddenly changed 14 seconds over the past few weeks, I'd wonder how fast he'd have to have been moving.

What on Earth have you been up to, sal? :lol:


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Re: my watch is getting slower [Re: Into The Woods]
    #22296833 - 09/27/15 01:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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For a simple wrist watch to have suddenly changed 14 seconds over the past few weeks, I'd wonder how fast he'd have to have been moving.

What on Earth have you been up to, sal? :lol:




hahaha,

well, let's see. if we solve for 2:

dialation factor = 1 / √( 1 - c²/v² ) = 2

2 * √( 1 - c²/v² ) = 1

c²/v² = .75 : c = 3 x 10^8 m/s

6.75×10¹⁶ = v²

v ~ 259,807,621 m/s, or .866 times the speed of light, for 7 seconds

but wait, there's a problem!

he has to get back somehow

seeing he has travelled roughly 1,818,653,347 meters he better go somewhat fast

if he goes at the same speed in a reverse direction his watch would be off by 0 seconds

maybe if he goes slowly...

let's say he can wait a whole 100 seconds :v

then for 14 seconds, you would need a factor of x : 100x = 14 : x = .14 = 1 / √( 1 - c²/v² )

solving for v,

.14 x √( 1 - c²/v² ) = 1  =>  c²/v² = |- 50.020408163|  =>  |−1.799265606×10¹⁵| = v²

v = 42417751 m/s, or ~ .14c

but!!! with a factor of .14 and 100 seconds in reverse

you would GAIN 14 seconds still >.<



since we can't go 1,818,653,347m and make it back before everyone we know is dead

let's say we travel the circumference of the Earth fast enough in a circle

oh wait, damn. vectors

we can only do half of it or we would be going in a circle, in an away direction and back

40,075.16km / 2 = 20037.58km = 20037580m (keeping units the same)

D = 1 / √( 1 - c²/v² )  ... hmm

we could substitute meters/seconds for v but that doesn't really help, we need v

we can't choose an arbitrary t since that would solve for v, we'd have distrance / time

we also can't choose an arbitrary dialation factor either, since we know we'd need 14s

scale that and you would still have t, so solving for v would still cancel out



in conclusion, i think it is impossible :v

it makes sense actually, since it is really an invariant

which is why we just get the time BACK if we loose it >.<

for example, substituting for D,

D x t = 14

14/t = 1 / √( 1 - c²/(14/t)² )  :  t/14 = √( 1 - c²/(14/t)² )  :  14 x √|- (t²+196)/196| =  ct

14/c x √ (t²+196)/196 = t  :    t²+196 = (196*t)²/.000000047²

... yeah :rolleyes:








edit: fixed really f'ing stupid mistake, what the hell was i thinking


Edited by micro (09/28/15 02:44 AM)


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Re: my watch is getting slower [Re: micro]
    #22298630 - 09/27/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yoiu can't prove i'm not the flash:snub:


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Re: my watch is getting slower [Re: Salomon]
    #22299477 - 09/27/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the flash itself?

or the light that came from it?

the former, well... no i can't but the latter would be easy. you would not be here anymore


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