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DMT not working?
#22291480 - 09/26/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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first time posting, so don't know if I'm in the right section. I bought some DMT from a store. It was labelled organic DMT. its dark, kinda like hash but a little less hard. its dense, but you can shape it in your fingers. i smoked it sandwiched between ash (bottom) and weed (top) I had a slow, steady drag for as long as I could. I also just tried to chop it as is. After 5 mins, I feel like I'm on .5g of mushrooms and nothing after. What kind of DMT is this? Would I have to extract it somehow to get the crystals? How I get the experience I read all over the internet? Also, is there a tolerance to the drug? Could I trip every weekend and still be able to function in society?
Thanks for the help!!
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: coquitlam]
#22291488 - 09/26/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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wtf where can you buy dmt at a store
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|Somewhere in Canada, but I cant say :/ But yeah, I got full thumb size amount of this dark brown stuff for $20
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: coquitlam]
#22291504 - 09/26/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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coquitlam said: |Somewhere in Canada, but I cant say :/ But yeah, I got full thumb size amount of this dark brown stuff for $20
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coquitlam said: |Somewhere in Canada, but I cant say :/ But yeah, I got full thumb size amount of this dark brown stuff for $20
Sounds strange sounds like shitty dmt though.
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http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/454680-Sticky-brown-DMT
this guy has the same stuff I think. If I torch it and it melts, would I trip?
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: coquitlam]
#22291656 - 09/26/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone got any suggestions?
I appreciate all the help, thanks
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: coquitlam]
#22291816 - 09/26/15 04:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Post a picture of this strange store bought DMt.
And get a microtorch lighter.
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: coquitlam]
#22291890 - 09/26/15 05:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Organic dmt...from...a store...but it doesnt work... Maybe cuz its not dmt (?)
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"Organic dmt"
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Kinshino]
#22293319 - 09/26/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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DMT bought at a store
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Pics please OP, we gotta see this.
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Achillita]
#22294523 - 09/26/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you bought it from a store im inclined to say its something that isnt DMT being sold under that name. Highly unlikely you bought real DMT from a shop...
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: coquitlam]
#22296308 - 09/26/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It doesn't sound legit, who knows what it is. You could smoke DMT everyday and function fine but the question is can you go on in this machiavellian madness plastic imitation of life?
I've never noticed any strong tolerance. Sometimes it doesn't take you where you want to go.
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: coquitlam]
#22296382 - 09/26/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bought some of that shit way back, didn't do anything. It's probably just some ground up acacia.
OP, you sound fairly new to all this, so I'd stay away from DMT until you're more experienced and knowledgeable. I'm not trying to be condescending, just trying to help you avoid an overly intense experience that could scare you off of psychs for good. DMT is some serious shit.
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Achillita]
#22296923 - 09/27/15 02:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Achillita said: Pics please OP, we gotta see this.

But it sounds like really low quatily dmt or possibly something completely different. I've only ever seen orange-ish dmt and stuff like I have right now that's whiteish clear crystals. Also seem some that was white with a yellowish tint. Never heard of brown/dark dmt like that at all.
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I wonder if it's a crude IPA extraction of acacia
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I have seen amber stuff go around, was very crystalline still though.
Also knew someone with pink dmt a long time ago kinda sketched me out. He thought it was the best ever though 
We need more details OP.
Also this:
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Starless said: OP, you sound fairly new to all this, so I'd stay away from DMT until you're more experienced and knowledgeable. I'm not trying to be condescending, just trying to help you avoid an overly intense experience that could scare you off of psychs for good. DMT is some serious shit.
Definitely smart to work your way up to dmt if you have not already. Especially smoked since it hits you so fast and hard.
Oral dmt at least is smoother like mushrooms but since it lasts longer that would not be a good starting point either potentially. People also overdue it a lot.
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: draumur]
#22298408 - 09/27/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My guess is OP got 4-aco-DMT. I've never seen or tried it before but I've heard a friend describe seeing some once as a brown chunk. It's technically unscheduled so you may be able to find it sold in stores, though it could be prosecuted as an analog substance.
Another clue is that it didn't work for OP when smoked. 4-aco-dmt is supposed to be eaten, and gives effects similar to a mushroom trip. It's most often taken as a fumarate salt, maybe by labeling it "organic" the salesperson meant "foodsafe".
 https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/4_acetoxy_dmt/4_acetoxy_dmt_basics.shtml
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Icon]
#22298483 - 09/27/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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not sure how reliable that product sounds but on the chance it is real, make sure that your not putting a flame too close. DMT dies in heat and requires a fairly low temperature for proper vaporization. AFOAF of mine says freebasing has proved more effective
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OP will never return probably. But id +rep him if he did come back with photos.
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Icon]
#22298519 - 09/27/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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tHat makes a lot of sense now.
If it was aco-dmt, it wouldnt worked if he smoked it.
I think this mystery is solved
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real synthesized DMT ranges from Orange to White in color. Looks like this is a derivative or byproduct of some sort though. Maybe this'll help. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-Acetylpsilocin
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Actually, I've heard psilocybin could be vaped without much degradation in a similar way to DMT. So it wouldn't be a far out guess that 4-AcO-DMT would work aswell. Although it'd have ot be a freebase on not a fumurate(I think)
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: coquitlam]
#22298545 - 09/27/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like DMT straight out of the unicorn's ass.
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Achillita]
#22299243 - 09/27/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, the furmate version is oral. Thats why u get pharmausca. DMT furmate With an maoi.
If it was freebase 4-aco-dmt then its smokable.
And yes, psilocybin freebase is apparently smokable, according to Alig23 and his infamous extracted psilocybin from urine.
Some day i will attempt the alig23 challenge, but i need a lot more shrooms and free time to do it.
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Quit The Cult said: OP will never return probably. But id +rep him if he did come back with photos.
Blasphemy. OP shall return, it is written in the prophecy. Have faith.
The OP shall return, and he shall bless us with pics of his strange DMT
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I know the stuff he's talking about and it's not any kind of crystalline substance, it's a black-ish brown powder. I'm pretty sure it's some sort of powdered root bark, if not just dried and powdered leaves from someone's gutter. Regardless of what it is, it doesn't work and is a complete rip off.
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Starless]
#22299904 - 09/27/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hahaha LMAO!
I about shit my pants when I read this.
I wanna go into a psychedelic store and buy DMT off the shelf shit!
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: IISkuNkII] 1
#22300905 - 09/27/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks like dirt almost. And I have had lots of experience with salvia, mushrooms and acid. Not a first time tripper
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coquitlam
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: coquitlam]
#22300918 - 09/27/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its in downtown vancouver. I can get salvia, DMT, mushroom spores, peyote, morning glory seeds, and other things like that. I feel pretty blessed to live in this beautiful city
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#22300926 - 09/27/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It looks like powdered root bark. You could probably use it to make ayahausca. How much is in the bag?
I'd call and ask them exactly what it is though.
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Achillita]
#22300942 - 09/27/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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they didnt tell me the amount in grams, but they said its around 1-5 doses. I thought that was a litte vague, but it was $20 for the bag, and it also came with seeds to eat beforehand. I have tried contacting the store owner, but he seems busy and he does not respond to my many phone calls..
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: coquitlam]
#22300961 - 09/27/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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coquitlam said: they didnt tell me the amount in grams, but they said its around 1-5 doses. I thought that was a litte vague, but it was $20 for the bag, and it also came with seeds to eat beforehand. I have tried contacting the store owner, but he seems busy and he does not respond to my many phone calls..
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You can't smoke it. But you can brew the seeds and the powder together and make ayahuasca.
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Achillita]
#22300986 - 09/27/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is there a thread for that? What would be the best method?
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Achillita]
#22300988 - 09/27/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Achillita said: You can't smoke it. But you can brew the seeds and the powder together and make ayahuasca.
Or he could do a DMT extraction
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Yeah but it wouldn't be worth it with such a low amount. At least IMO.
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Achillita]
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50mg of demetri can be a solid doseorally so even if he went through with an extraction he might yield less than half or a quarter gram even 
It would be worth it to know how much you are taking though only if you are good at extractions though really.
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50mg of demetri can be a solid doseorally so even if he went through with an extraction he might yield less than half or a quarter gram even 
It would be worth it to know how much you are taking though only if you are good at extractions though really.
 here is an extraction on a small amount of bark
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: Achillita]
#22301028 - 09/27/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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True, but he can always go back to the store, buy more, then extract.
I think an extraction would be worth the trouble. DMT freebase is amaaaaaaaaazing.
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I wouldn't let this stop you from trying DMT.
I have NO idea why people are saying avoid DMT now. You made a costly mistake, so what.
Find some bark online, do your extract, and then do some living.
This experience should not be considered a hindrance on your DMT experience, or at least I can't see why it would.
DMT has found you, or you found it through other drugs. Either way, it means you're as ready as you're going to be. Spend some time googling extract teks, then go out there and do something crazy.
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Marketing trap!
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topherchris said:
I have NO idea why people are saying avoid DMT now.
Some one on the Shroomery said that? Or that's what the public is saying?
Stupid people...
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Actually what was said was it would be smart to work up to dmt.
Which is pretty true, I don't think anyone said stay away from it....
Just that it can be very intense and starting smaller could be smart.
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musiclover420 said: Actually what was said was it would be smart to work up to dmt.
Which is pretty true, I don't think anyone said stay away from it....
That I would agree with. My first DMT experience was from a so called "shaman" trying to get me into hyper space my first time. Fuck that guy was not a shaman. And my experience was very very bad.
I'd recommend to anyone not just first timers (with a new batch) to start low.
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Wait, so a "shaman" got you to smoke a bunch of dmt for your first time to make it to hyperspace?
I feel like a shaman telling you to smoke it in general is a bad omen. I have always felt that was the most wasteful way to ingest it personally.
Sorry to hear you went through that, intense/ unpleasant experiences like that can be invaluable learning experiences at least 
The first time I held harmalas and dmt in my hand together I swear I could feel the sacred energy radiating from them and knew I was in for a treat.
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musiclover420 said: Wait, so a "shaman" got you to smoke a bunch of dmt for your first time to make it to hyperspace?
I feel like a shaman telling you to smoke it in general is a bad omen. I have always felt that was the most wasteful way to ingest it personally.
Sorry to hear you went through that, intense/ unpleasant experiences like that can be invaluable learning experiences at least 
The first time I held harmalas and dmt in my hand together I swear I could feel the sacred energy radiating from them and knew I was in for a treat.
I put "shaman" in quotations because my entire trip/experience was a strict warning about this so called shaman. I could see who he was as a person and its was very overwhelmingly dark and scary. However the experience wasn't all bad because its how I was called into being a shaman. I heard a voice break through the darkness in the form of light and it said, "open, learn, heal, teach" and I haven't been the same since to say the least.
But no joke he loaded 100 MG onto a bowl of weed and was trying to get me to hit it four times. After two hits I was "toast" so to say..
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so any idea on how to make this into ayahuasca?
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Re: DMT not working? [Re: coquitlam]
#22305966 - 09/28/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That is an intense way to get into shamanism! That is ridiculous he loaded 100mg up even 50mg seems like a lot for a first timer possibly.
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coquitlam said: so any idea on how to make this into ayahuasca?
Its pretty simple, the basic concept is consume some MAOI (seeds) then wait 30-45 minutes and eat or drink some of the powder.
If you can't find out what it is I would start small to be safe.
You could make two teas, one of each substances then split them up for dosing since you allegedly got "multiple doses" start with like 1/5th of each and move up.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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musiclover420 said: That is an intense way to get into shamanism! That is ridiculous he loaded 100mg up even 50mg seems like a lot for a first timer possibly.
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coquitlam said: so any idea on how to make this into ayahuasca?
Its pretty simple, the basic concept is consume some MAOI (seeds) then wait 30-45 minutes and eat or drink some of the powder.
If you can't find out what it is I would start small to be safe.
You could make two teas, one of each substances then split them up for dosing since you allegedly got "multiple doses" start with like 1/5th of each and move up.

The first time I broke through I had given up on DMT because I thought it was bunk so I loaded up over 100mg but I was just using bad technique but this time I used good technique and had 100mg+ load...
It was like getting lost in the corridors of the universe for infinity and I had never been a human being that had been born I was just there forever(No life before there). The experience was terrifying but I don't think I'd ever trade it away for anything in the world.
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