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Re: flu shots? [Re: micro]
    #22289412 - 09/25/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I've never had a flu shot.

Never had the flu.

Never had a cold.




You have an immune system that works!

hah...




The key is to not give a fuck about germs.


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Re: flu shots? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22289425 - 09/25/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

and to pick your nose and eat it, that is a natural flu shot


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Re: flu shots? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22289626 - 09/25/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The key is to not give a fuck about germs.




QFT, and this is why autoimmune diseases are climbing in developed countries.

People aren't getting exposed to as much and their immune systems aren't building up because of it.

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they barely even know how our immune system works.  doesn't take a rocket scientist to speculate that you can't just keep injecting dead virus cells into your body endlessly, something is going to get overloaded, cause and effect.




That's not how memory B cells work.

They have their own genetic mechanism for recognizing it after vaccination.

Do you know how many antigens your body comes in contact with every day?

You have like a trillion antibodies at any given time.

That just doesn't make sense. Of course it won't 'overload' :v

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Besides that there are countless people who get the shot then days/weeks later have problems and big money pays people off to discount/surpress/hide/ect.  Now that's not to say the shots did it, but they are saying the shots are safe and in my book there's a lot more studys that should be done before it gets that stamp.




We have been using vaccines like this for quite a while, now...

People who don't have problems don't speak up; you are listening to the squeaky wheel.

Most people don't have side effects.

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also everytime my mom gets the flu shot she gets sick, every single time.  she's also allergic to metal, guess whats in flu shots




I doubt that metal allergies are responsible; the only metal that would be there is an organomercury preservative which wouldn't cause such a systemic response. Much more likely, it is an immune response to the dead virus in the shot. Her immune system thinks it is an invader and it binds to antibodies which signal inflammatory cytokines like CD4 and CD8 to generate a T-cell response: the production of more lymphocytes. This is what causes swollen lymph nodes.

Generally people will only have a primary response and your B cells will "remember" the virus in case of re-infection via genetics. Some people, often those with over-active immune systems, can develop a secondary response which causes the cascade of symptoms such as fever and nausea via intracellular signalling. This is generally due to a problem with regulatory cytokines like interferon and interleukin which normally mediate cytokine production. This can lead to problems with allergies (another immune response, often triggered by TNFα) and in the more severe case an autoimmune disease where the body starts attacking its own cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2919277/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2787274/

http://www.webmd.com/parenting/d2n-stopping-germs-12/kids-and-dirt-germs


Oh, and did you know that even sunburns are caused by an immune response?

The UV triggers the inflammatory response via TNFα and signalling in much the same way.


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Re: flu shots? [Re: micro]
    #22290070 - 09/25/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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micro said:
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ThatKidWithTheFace said:
The key is to not give a fuck about germs.




QFT, and this is why autoimmune diseases are climbing in developed countries.

People aren't getting exposed to as much and their immune systems aren't building up because of it.






Exactly! I walk around barefoot, only wash my hands if they're dirty, and haven't used hand sanitizer since middle school


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