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N05482
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anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit?
#22288375 - 09/25/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Found this psilocybin test kit last year after finding some questionable mushies. Wound up just throwing them out, but wondered if anybody has every used the product before to test for active mushies?
Generally actives are easy enough to identify when fresh but this should work on dried samples and low bruising species, perhaps even low activity gyms.
Curious too if it may have any false positive triggering chemicals?
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22288402 - 09/25/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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N05482
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Yah somebody out there might have a cool cop for a friend.
Might even be a cool cop on this forum?
Might also be similar to a consumer level product. Just curious about it.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22288477 - 09/25/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Paradimethylaminobenzaldehyde can test for indoles which you might be able to get from chemical supplies but you might need a license to get.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22288489 - 09/25/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's a publicly accessible test kit ima order now!
Nix that made it to check out card got denied...
Edited by N05482 (09/25/15 01:46 PM)
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N05482
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22288659 - 09/25/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Finally found one I could order, may take a while to get here, but it's not dangerous so it's accessible by the public without training.
mmc psilocybin test kit
Not sure if it will be as accurate but I'll test some pellies this year and see if that will trigger it.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22288716 - 09/25/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why would you want or need these? Are you going to test every questionable mushroom that you find, as far as I know you can only test a very small sample at a time and it's not going to tell you anything about potency. Psilocybin bluing seem like an easy enough way to distinguish active from nonactive mushrooms. I'm not trying to be a Debbie-downer, I just don't understand the use for these unless someone is a parent or a cop.
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N05482
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bout nailed it there, I want them for potentially identifying any questionable mushrooms. Friends often come to me with rotten, smashed, or dry specimens and ask is this a good one? Sometimes it's easy enough to say yes, more often easy to just say no, but sometimes I'm stumped so I just say throw em out.
If I had a way to test the ones I'm considering may be active then I would feel a lot better about following them to the patch. From there we'll collect fresh specimens.
Can't count how many times I've been fooled into hour hike to look at some bullshit.
I'd never recommend anyone ever eat any questionable mushies even after testing one cause never know what else is in the baggie.
I'm not a parent but I don't wanna see any of my kid friends in hospital or worse.
Plus it'd be cool to find something new, never know.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22288903 - 09/25/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just thought too on a side note. I wonder if there is enough psilocybin or psilocin in the myc to test potential patches year round?
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22288926 - 09/25/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilocybe mycelium is psychoactive so I imagine that it would test positive.
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The mycelium is psychoactive?! I was wondering about that. Let us know if the mycelium tests positive!
Do cops regularly carry around that test kit?
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: FryersQuest]
#22289242 - 09/25/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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FryersQuest said: The mycelium is psychoactive?! I was wondering about that. Let us know if the mycelium tests positive!
What do you think sclerotia is?
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FryersQuest said:
Do cops regularly carry around that test kit?
Yes, they carry all sorts in-field drug testing kits.
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I thought that was only in grassland species such as Semilanceata.
And shitty. I haven't had any trouble with police thus far in my hunting career....I didn't know that they had on the spot testing though.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: FryersQuest]
#22289302 - 09/25/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you think they were all skilled and mushroom identification and their abilities were used as evidence against you in court of law? Maybe all of the cops don't carry them with them all of the time but I'm almost positive that all police departments have a way of testing for psilocybin.
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On the sites I searched for the tests kits they have a lil black duffle bag with every test imaginable in it for like $500, I wouldn't be surprised if every station had one. Maybe even every car...
When the consumer level test arrives I'll post test results from different species and myc samples.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22289363 - 09/25/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Police departments love to waste tax payer money on toys and shit, their funding actually get decreased the next year if they do not spend their allotted amount. I wouldn't doubt it for a second.
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Well I had been wondering what their methods were..... I just had never heard of any police officer using a test kit. Actually I have rarely heard of any hunters getting arrested.
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N05482
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: stevo]
#22289517 - 09/25/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tried to just purchase anyway from two places both were denied at payment. One place even wanted the tax exempt number for the department to be billed.
So I'd guess it's the acid that is in them is why they're not publicly available.
The ones I did order seem like they'll do the same though. Might not be as accurate but that's why ima test em.
Really all of this is just for the fun of it anyway right?
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22289663 - 09/25/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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People do have cool cop friends. Mine told me he has never received training on mushrooms. When you hear him talk about work, it's laughable to think they would. He also said he has never been told to look for pickers in Seattle parks or even heard of pickers getting busted. Of course Seattle would be more relaxed since it is a city and they have other problems. From what he told me it was pretty clear that, in Seattle at least, as long as you are not doing something that would get the cops called then picking mushrooms alone is not worth stopping. Then he told me he had cyanescens at his precinct. Let me tell you they do not have training. Because I didn't find shit.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: SkagitHunter]
#22290330 - 09/25/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I may have heard or read somewhere that those chemicals your after/interested in, may be obtained through your photography supply warehouse?? Believe that shit MJK is spittin. Cops got it all and they have people assigned to get shit. Every department wants to be cutting edge. If they ain't got it and they want it or even hear about it, They get it. Regardless. it's your freinds telling on you or you personally breaking weak that gets you busted.Thats all the evidence they need. Just my opinion of course. But then again i no the difference between a "Convict" and an "Inmate". (Got a little off track)
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: NothingsChanged]
#22290491 - 09/25/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I paid $25 for 10 tests, that's cheap and easy enough, figure I'll throw less than $3 away at a chance to learn something valuable.
The more I think about it I mostly wanna test myc with it. Got lots of places with really good looking myc but no fruits. Every year I go look and wonder. Would pay $3 to know for sure!
And it would be cool to if I ever got busted picking I could be like oh I have this project for school. I got this lil kit I'm testing things with wanna find out together what they are? We can toss em when we're done.
No matter what I'm sure I'll have fun with em and show y'all what I'm up to.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22290856 - 09/25/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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keep us updated, clever idea, i am interested how effective this can be
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maynardjameskeenan said: Police departments love to waste tax payer money on toys and shit, their funding actually get decreased the next year if they do not spend their allotted amount. I wouldn't doubt it for a second.
or they'll just go all civil asset forfeiture on your ass (or really on your house and cars and motorcycles and the money in your pockets) and sell that shit off to replenish their budgets.
civil asset forfeiture is a bunch o' bullshit and many police departments in the US are abusing it.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: relic]
#22302856 - 09/28/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oregon is one of the better states when it comes to asset forfeiture and I think that it's due in part to the state's ballot initiatives. https://www.ij.org/asset-forfeiture-report-oregon
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22302958 - 09/28/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah..looking official is always a good way to go. I think it was NeoSporen that said he would go out with a garbage bag and pick up garbage while he hunted. I am a student so I get all geared up in my school attire and go hunt and nobody has bothered me yet. But I also am going to try the garbage bag route I think. Because it makes sense....and also because I hate littering :3
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: FryersQuest]
#22303235 - 09/28/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Test kit shipped and will be here this week!
I love the trash bag thing! Gonna have to do that! Funny if one day there's more people picking trash then actually finding mushrooms, we might stop getting posts of nice finds with cheetos bags and soda cans in the background!
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482] 1
#22303460 - 09/28/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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a meixner test will have a positive result to Psilocin/psilocybin. All you need is some hydrochloric (muriatic) acid available at any hardware and some news print. You could test those mush for about 2 cents each. You may not even need the news paper, acid on the pileus would oxidize any tryptamines and turn blue. The primary purpose of the meixner test is to test for amotoxin http://www.mykoweb.com/TFWNA/P-17.html
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: nomendubium]
#22304466 - 09/28/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's cool! Wonder if that works on myc too! That's so much cheaper. So when I get the tests I'll compare them to a meixner test!
Ooh just thought too I should test some gallerina with the mmc psilocybin test see if the amitoxins trigger a false positive.
That would suck! Wonder how many people got fucked picking gallys thinking they were silly and the test the police used falsely identified them too.
Wonder if the gally myc growing in the same bed right next to potential cyan myc will false trigger positive. Could turn out to be a huge waste of time. Unless the gally myc has no amatoxins to trigger a false positive?
the test might as well just say yah there's myc in those wood chips mushrooms might grow there, might be poisonous might be trippy...
I do that for free just poking a finger in to look for white... Yah it's there... Now come back over and over to see...
Also just thought if I tested a specimen someone brought me with a meixner test and it was blue that would tell me it's either a silly one or a poisonous one. That's not very clear or conclusive. I'm hoping the tests I ordered aren't triggered by poison too!
So I got some experiments to do this fall. Might make a new hunting tek, might make a lot of calories burn in the name of science.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22307255 - 09/29/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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if you can't tell a Galerina from a Psilocybe, you SHOULD NOT be picking and eating mushrooms. Let us know your results
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: nomendubium]
#22307262 - 09/29/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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nomendubium said: if you can't tell a Galerina from a Psilocybe, you SHOULD NOT be picking and eating mushrooms.
QFT
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maynardjameskeenan said: Oregon is one of the better states when it comes to asset forfeiture and I think that it's due in part to the state's ballot initiatives. https://www.ij.org/asset-forfeiture-report-oregon
nice. my state scores a D- and is basically a policing-for-profit-through-asset-forfeiture nightmare for property owners.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: nomendubium]
#22307706 - 09/29/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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nomendubium said: if you can't tell a Galerina from a Psilocybe, you SHOULD NOT be picking and eating mushrooms.
This should be a head line on the hunting forum, might half the amount of ID requests for actives.
Or start a noob flame war...
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: N05482]
#22327471 - 10/03/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like new protocols like this. Watching this thread for sure.
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Re: anybody ever use NARK II psilocybin test kit? [Re: AstaCrazyBull]
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-------------------- The Great Spirit gave me permission to use all things that bear seed for my use. I personally choose non-toxic organic compounds and a couple fermentables.
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