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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: qman]
#22288931 - 09/25/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, they were called to address that situation.
Well they should have known that taking a job like that involved those kinds of risks. Its like going to war and expecting not to have to kill anyone.
Maybe one day we can all say 'fuck the police' with a little bit of dignity.
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: shellzenone]
#22288957 - 09/25/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, they were called to address that situation.
Well they should have known that taking a job like that involved those kinds of risks. Its like going to war and expecting not to have to kill anyone.
Maybe one day we can all say 'fuck the police' with a little bit of dignity.
They fact that police know the potential dangers of the job doesn't negate the fact they shouldn't get themselves killed or injured when it isn't necessary.
Cops are NOT super heroes, they are people that wakeup everyday to get a pay check, why do you think they should sacrifice their well being by becoming a LEO?
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: Shroomslip]
#22288961 - 09/25/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: I mean idk why people give cops such shit when someone has a gun and they won't drop it
Wheelchair or not if you got a gun and won't drop it, fuck, you're askin for it
The cop has a gun and won't drop it either. Cop's asking for it too.

Shit is true. What just because he has a badge and a uniform it's different? Bullshit. We're all animals and the world is a fucking jungle whether or not we like to think of it like that.
So your logical suggestion is that if a cop has a gun we have the right to shoot them? Therefor, advocating cop killings?
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: shellzenone] 1
#22288964 - 09/25/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shellzenone said:
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No, they were called to address that situation.
Well they should have known that taking a job like that involved those kinds of risks. Its like going to war and expecting not to have to kill anyone.
Maybe one day we can all say 'fuck the police' with a little bit of dignity.
So let me get this straight
Cops are suppose to be invincible badasses that can take on the world and are suppose to be 100% more amazing than the rest of us average folk who freeze the fuck up when someone does anything remotely dangerous to you.
Yeah because signing onto being a police officer means you should just forfeit your life to some asshole.
RIGHT.
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: Uzziel]
#22289024 - 09/25/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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All Im saying is that they're all bastards in the end. Enforcing bogus laws, harassing the people, and getting away with murder.
Two family members of mine are cops. they both have a mentality that they deserve respect for wearing a badge. They didn't become cops because they wanted to fight crime. They became cops because it was the next easiest job they could land. The authority they got turned them into arrogant, egotistic bullies. They are just as human as all of us, only they get away with alot more than most of us.
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: shellzenone]
#22289028 - 09/25/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're talking shit like a 15 year old on Call of duty
if you're going to sit there and tell me you're a fucking badass who would have risked YOUR life to stop that guy... please... stand up and take the microphone
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: Uzziel]
#22289038 - 09/25/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I love being the devil's advocate in these cop shooting video things, but this time, I don't really know how to defend this...
Go at him from behind, you a taser, flip his chair, rubber bullets, knock him out... Anything would have worked. If he CLEARLY reaches for the gun when you approach him, then you do something. But man, the dude could barely move. Running at him would take max 2 seconds at which point he wouldn't have be able to react.
And of course... the dude in the wheelchair decided to be black that day... Just to infuriate even more.
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: Shroomslip]
#22289040 - 09/25/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: your logical suggestion is that if a cop has a gun we have the right to shoot them? Therefor, advocating cop killings?
No what I'm saying is if someone has a gun and is doing their thing and isn't hurting anyone and then a cop comes over and starts harassing that person using his gun to assert dominance then that cop is asking to be shot IMO.
I'm joining the military and I recognize me joining the infantry is essentially asking to be put in a position for someone to shoot me. Cops should recognize the same; and the people should recognize the cop's responsibility that when he signed up he signed up for being in situations of extreme high stress, violence, and murder.
If the cop's first defense or method is to pull out a gun then yeah he deserves his chance of getting shot. IMO
(bare in mind my grandfather was a cop and I've heard a lot of stories and his opinion on cops and excessive use of force, etc)
quoted so you can't remove this clunk of shit post.... wtf.......
"he's a cop so he should get shot trying to stop a guy in the middle of a road with a loaded shotgun"
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: shellzenone]
#22289058 - 09/25/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shellzenone said: All Im saying is that they're all bastards in the end. Enforcing bogus laws, harassing the people, and getting away with murder.
Two family members of mine are cops. they both have a mentality that they deserve respect for wearing a badge. They didn't become cops because they wanted to fight crime. They became cops because it was the next easiest job they could land. The authority they got turned them into arrogant, egotistic bullies. They are just as human as all of us, only they get away with alot more than most of us.
They get the benefit of the doubt in most violent encounters as they should, these cops are going to be investigated for this incident, lets see where it ends before we make a conclusion.
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: qman]
#22289085 - 09/25/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not only that, they go back to the station and high-five each other for beating people. They like to brag about how they got the person to incriminate themselves or how they found the poor guy's nickle sack stash. Even the "good cops". Even they turn a blind eye. Look up the 'CODE OF BLUE'. It is real. They consider themselves a 'family'. The public is not part of their family. Its us and them, much like a real gang.
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: shellzenone]
#22289098 - 09/25/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shellzenone said: Not only that, they go back to the station and high-five each other for beating people. They like to brag about how they got the person to incriminate themselves or how they found the poor guy's nickle sack stash. Even the "good cops". Even they turn a blind eye. Look up the 'CODE OF BLUE'. It is real. They consider themselves a 'family'. The public is not part of their family. Its us and them, much like a real gang.
Who is they? Prove it. You got proof of all the shit you talk? You a cop? How do you know what they do behind the scenes? Every cop is the same person? All people are the same? We all think alike?
Sounds like you're just another shit talker, yawn.
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: Uzziel]
#22289121 - 09/25/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Didnt mean to hurt your feeling there... If you read my previous posts, you would know im talking about my family members who are cops.
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: shellzenone]
#22289124 - 09/25/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Right and your two family members somehow dictate 99% of the worlds police force?
OK. NP.
Here's the microphone, we should send you out to the news and let them know you're the spokesperson for the police because you SUPPOSEDLY have two family members that are cops.
Okie dokie!
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: Uzziel]
#22289129 - 09/25/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: shellzenone]
#22289137 - 09/25/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, exactly.
Two people. Two. You think you can take two people out of a sample group and somehow determine that they reflect the rest of the population?
All drug users must be addicts b/c two heroin junkies
All doctors are assholes because two of them have killed people on purpose before.
Etc...etc
List goes on and on why you're wrong
You can roll your eyes... and I can be right
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: Shroomslip]
#22289167 - 09/25/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: shellzenone]
#22289170 - 09/25/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shit, you can even buy a bumper sticker of a blue line and that lets them know you're one of them. that way they approach you differently.
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: shellzenone]
#22289189 - 09/25/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Linking to a wiki page doesn't prove anything
It doesn't even give statistics
Taken from your page LOL:
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Many police departments have their own code of conduct. They train new recruits and investigate police officers if they have a complaint from a civilian or a criminal. There are also some state laws put in place to help protect civilians and criminals from corrupted officers. If the officer is found guilty, officers can be sued by the victim for damage caused by police brutality, false arrest and imprisonment, malicious prosecution, and wrongful death.[4]
Federal laws strongly prohibit officer misconduct, including officers who follow the code by "testilying" or neglecting to report any officer who is participating in corruption. If an officer is in violation of any of the officer misconduct federal laws, only the federal government can issue a suit. The police department is only responsible for preventing corruption among officers. If an officer is convicted, they may be forced to pay high fines or be imprisoned. To be convicted, the plaintiffs must prove that the officer was following the code or participating in negligence and unlawful conduct. It is often hard to convict an officer of following the code or other forms of corruption because officers are protected by defense of immunity, which is an exemption from penalties and burdens that the law generally places on private citizens.[4]
"U.S. Supreme Court decisions have continually asserted the general rule that officers must be given the benefit of the doubt that they acted lawfully in carrying out their day-to-day duties, a position reasserted in Saucier v. Katz, 533 U.S. 194, 121 S. Ct. 2151, 150 L. Ed. 2d 272 (2001)."[4]
You just worked against yourself. With the upcoming new age of technology it harder than ever for police to get away with corruption.
Again, all your shit talkers on cops just make me laugh at how cute you guys are.
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: Uzziel]
#22289212 - 09/25/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats just what they put out for the public, but theres a different show behind the curtains. Im not really trying to prove a point here, just letting you in on what I know. You seem really upset though.
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Re: Cops shoot and kill man in wheelchair [Re: Shroomslip]
#22289228 - 09/25/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha I put you guys in your place with no rebuttal on yer part except for saying "yer upset"
lmao kids these days can't even argue or troll properly
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