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Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp
    #22287008 - 09/25/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

She's 91 and was a teenage radio operator at the camp. It's not like she gassed Jews herself she did what she was ordered to do. Seems excessive to me - M3E 

91-Year-Old Woman Charged With 260,000 Counts of Accessory to Murder

The charges are related to deaths at the Auschwitz concentration camp

German prosecutors have charged a 91-year-old woman who allegedly worked at the Nazis’ Auschwitz camp with 260,000 counts of accessory to murder.

A spokesperson for the prosecutors in Germany’s Schleswig-Holstein state said Monday that the woman is a former radio operator for the camp’s commandant and that she appears fit for trial, according to the BBC.

She is not the only one to have recently faced charges over a supporting role in running the camps. Oskar Groening, known as “the bookkeeper of Auschwitz” who sorted money from prisoners, was convicted of 300,000 counts of accessory to murder in July and sentenced to four years in prison. He still has time to appeal the judgment.

http://time.com/4045628/woman-charged-auchswitz-deaths/


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22287014 - 09/25/15 03:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dude, that's fucked.


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    #22287017 - 09/25/15 03:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: my3rdeye] * 3
    #22287020 - 09/25/15 03:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I really don't get fucking with these 90+ year old people for what they did back during the war. :shrug: They've already been living their life, punishment would seem a moot point by now. They're just going to die in a few years anyways. It's not as if they're dangerous criminals who need to be locked up for the safety of others. Yeah they might've done some horrible fucking things, and may people may be just in despising them, but you're not accomplishing anything by "bringing them to justice" now. Just leave them be.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: my3rdeye] * 1
    #22287022 - 09/25/15 03:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

WWII was a really long time ago.  It's nearing 100 years.  At some point everyone involved will be dead, is it fair to finally just move on at that point or are we always going to be stuck on it?


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Hobozen]
    #22287024 - 09/25/15 03:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

260000 counts of accessory to murder. That's gonna be a looooooooooooooooooooooooong trial lol.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Hobozen]
    #22287026 - 09/25/15 03:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: abltsandwich] * 2
    #22287045 - 09/25/15 03:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It wasn't, WW1's start just turned 100. Time is on a continuam, and we shpuld punish those involved in mass killings probably. Perhaps she isn't the right one to go after


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 3
    #22287051 - 09/25/15 03:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It was over 70 years ago, that means even the youngest people involved right at the end are either damn near, or are older than 90 years old.

What the hell good is it going to do to lock people up 70 years later, after they've already lived a full life? What kinda message is that sending? That if you contribute to genocide you may spend your very last few years in prison where you'll die of old age after having been free for your entire life? We've kinda missed the window on "justice" having any practical effect. At this point, it's just locking up ancient people who are no danger to society and patting ourselves on the back for having "punished a war criminal".


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22287056 - 09/25/15 04:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Its upholding justice in the memory of the victims. Is that what you are meant to tell these eoples families? "get over it it happened along time ago" Why shouldnt she sit on trial and be held accountable for her actions. I mean im sure she was totally innocent and jus randomly got chosen outta a hat to be a radio operator for the commandant of fucking auschwitz ffs.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 4
    #22287058 - 09/25/15 04:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Justice isn't letting them live on until they're 91 years old before you even arrest them.  That's a mockery of justice.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22287060 - 09/25/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Some people don't think justice matters if it doesn't have a practical purpose. Ot is a mockery, but you take grams of flesh over pounds sometimes


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22287062 - 09/25/15 04:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I just don't get the sense in it. If you're gonna seek these people out, why wait this long to do it? If it were truly about justice for the victim's families, why did it wait until almost everyone involved had already died of old age? I don't blame the families of the victims for wanting it even 70 years later, I blame the people pursuing charges though.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 4
    #22287064 - 09/25/15 04:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do you even realize the danger wtf your saying you fucking ungrateful ingnorant fucks. "yeh it happened a long time ago lets jus sweep it under the rug" people fought an entire world war but yeh lets jus forget about it and move on history wont repeat itself or anything.  We almost lost the goddamn free world ffs:facepalm:


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22287065 - 09/25/15 04:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you even realize the danger wtf your saying you fucking ungrateful ingnorant fucks. "yeh it happened a long time ago lets jus sweep it under the rug" people fought an entire world war but yeh lets jus forget about it and move on history wont repeat itself or anything.  We almost lost the goddamn free world ffs:facepalm:



It wasn't that long ago, but he speeks the folly of us young people. It was barely a life time ago.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22287066 - 09/25/15 04:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I just don't get the sense in it. If you're gonna seek these people out, why wait this long to do it? If it were truly about justice for the victim's families, why did it wait until almost everyone involved had already died of old age? I don't blame the families of the victims for wanting it even 70 years later, I blame the people pursuing charges though.



ohhh maybe because they were in hiding or protected by bullshit laws


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22287071 - 09/25/15 04:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't say forget it happened. I said it's pointless to go trying them for their crimes when they're this damned old. If they even make it through the trial it's nothing short of a miracle. None of them are likely to spend more than a couple of years in prison before they die. You know what a couple of years in prison for a murder is to the victim? I actually know this one, because it happened to me. It's bullshit, infuriating and a slap in the face. "Well at least they spent 2 years in prison" is not anywhere near comforting or healing.
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I just don't get the sense in it. If you're gonna seek these people out, why wait this long to do it? If it were truly about justice for the victim's families, why did it wait until almost everyone involved had already died of old age? I don't blame the families of the victims for wanting it even 70 years later, I blame the people pursuing charges though.



ohhh maybe because they were in hiding or protected by bullshit laws



You honestly believe they couldn't have been found before? Get real. It was probably due to nothing but heel dragging and refusal to put fourth appropriate assets to find them. SOME of the higher up people may have been connected enough to disappear and never be found, but do you think this woman or the guy who got 4 years were really that connected? If the appropriate resources were actually put fourth, they could've been found decades ago, when the trial would've actually made more sense.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Shroomslip] * 2
    #22287083 - 09/25/15 04:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

well its a matter of principle. I mean alot of people died to put those people on trail and make them face what they have done. A great deal of them slipped the noose and even went on to live fat off ill gotten gains. There are people out there that will pursue these charges until their dying breath. but go ahead and belittle what millions fought and died for.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22287086 - 09/25/15 04:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think we need more tourteeous punishments in such cases, but westerners are weak as fuck and wouldn't pull off someone who killed thousands decades ago's fingernails. Just fillet one hand. That is punishent. Prisons fucking stupid unless you are isolating problems away from others. We justneed objective criteria. We can[t ever 'know' anything in the legal world though. It's all so fucking stupid now


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 3
    #22287088 - 09/25/15 04:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

To me, people willing to torture criminals, are merely just criminals themselves, but to pussy to act on it so they get their rocks off by having the state torture for them. All torturers ARE the bad guys to me.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Apollyphelion] * 1
    #22287089 - 09/25/15 04:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #22287099 - 09/25/15 04:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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WWII was a really long time ago.  It's nearing 100 years.  At some point everyone involved will be dead, is it fair to finally just move on at that point or are we always going to be stuck on it?



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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22287111 - 09/25/15 04:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Prison is a form of tourture. What, is teeth pulling and flesh chopping too much? These people were the worst. We know what theyndid, and we should have hunted them down years ago. There are hundreds out there, maybe thoudsands who killed many people, and they are getting away.


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    #22287124 - 09/25/15 04:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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well its a matter of principle. I mean alot of people died to put those people on trail and make them face what they have done. A great deal of them slipped the noose and even went on to live fat off ill gotten gains. There are people out there that will pursue these charges until their dying breath. but go ahead and belittle what millions fought and died for.



I don't think millions fought and died to try 90 year olds 70 years after the fact. They fought and died to put an end to the organization as a whole and stop them from spreading or growing stronger. There were the initial trials, but those who were able to slip away were basically just ignored and left alone. This is my entire point. If you want to actually seek justice, it should've been done long ago. Doing it now just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I realize how easy my intent can be misconstrued and one may assume I'm a prick, or even admit I may kind of be one. I don't think these people should've been able to live the lives they did, they should've been held accountable back before they had a chance to live a full free life. Lot of their victims certainly didn't get that luxury.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Shroomslip] * 3
    #22287151 - 09/25/15 05:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No amnesty for Nazis :antifascist:


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Asante] * 3
    #22287422 - 09/25/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No amnesty for Nazis :antifascist:




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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Patlal]
    #22287464 - 09/25/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Amnesty and mercy are not the same thing.

Amnesty is just an official pardon. Mercy is forgiveness and showing compassion. Other than both would mean the people in this situation walk away, they're not really even close to each other.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22287535 - 09/25/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No amnesty for Nazis :antifascist:




If you show them no mercy then you are just as bad as they are.





Exactly how does persecuting an accomplice to systematic mass murder and one of the greatest crimes against humanity in recent years measure up to the crimes of the Nazis?


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Asante]
    #22287594 - 09/25/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Why did they wait so long?  It seems more like a political prosecution than criminal one at the expense of a 91 year old woman, disgusting.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: qman] * 1
    #22287712 - 09/25/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Stalin killed 27 million people but the U.S. excused him, did they not?


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Atreyu] * 6
    #22288007 - 09/25/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Germany should get over it's guilt complex regarding WW2 and stop fucking pandering to the pretend jews, who, should in turn, shut the fuck up.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Asante]
    #22288153 - 09/25/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Without watching all that, within the first minute their was some whining about "why didn't we bomb Auschwitz" in '44 Yeah right, lets blow the fuckers up rather than let em starve to death. Bollocks. You one of these pretend jews or something?


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: deucedbi9]
    #22288279 - 09/25/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i watched "The Odessa File" the other day. it was decent.
I used to play chess with an old Argentinian guy who spoke with a german accent at a cigar shop in my old town. He was in his 80's, and this was in the early 2000's.  I always wondered if he was an old nazi.
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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22288456 - 09/25/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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To me, people willing to torture criminals, are merely just criminals themselves, but to pussy to act on it so they get their rocks off by having the state torture for them. All torturers ARE the bad guys to me.





i don't think this lady tortured anyone... she just handled money and operated a radio from the looks of things. :shrug:

weighing in, i don't think the public should be concerned with anyone at that age. at 91, you are no longer a threat to society in most cases


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    #22288527 - 09/25/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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WWII was a really long time ago.  It's nearing 100 years.  At some point everyone involved will be dead, is it fair to finally just move on at that point or are we always going to be stuck on it?



It's not nearing a hundred years :facepalm:




I don't expect much from you in general but come on dude pull your head out of your  ass and lets do some math!

Nazi Germany 1933
Current day, 2015.

2015 - 1933 = 82
100 - 82 = 18

It's 18 years away from being 100 years since the formation of Nazi Germany.  Come on dude.  Are you serious you can't do that simple math?  My fucking god man. But then again you're the one thinking people shoot themselves more than criminals in home invasions so... :doublefacepalm:


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: abltsandwich] * 2
    #22288565 - 09/25/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

for those who are actively talking about this topic, the Milgram shock experiment is extremely relevant to this thread and very much worth a mention...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

it's easy to just follow orders. but then again, this lady just operated a telephone and handled money right? i don't think that's being an accomplice to murder.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: abltsandwich]
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WWII was a really long time ago.  It's nearing 100 years.  At some point everyone involved will be dead, is it fair to finally just move on at that point or are we always going to be stuck on it?



It's not nearing a hundred years :facepalm:




I don't expect much from you in general but come on dude pull your head out of your  ass and lets do some math!

Nazi Germany 1933
Current day, 2015.

2015 - 1933 = 82
100 - 82 = 18

It's 18 years away from being 100 years since the formation of Nazi Germany.  Come on dude.  Are you serious you can't do that simple math?  My fucking god man. But then again you're the one thinking people shoot themselves more than criminals in home invasions so... :doublefacepalm:




The fuck you talking about. The Nazi's were in power untill 1945. You do the fucking sums. Clue=add 11. :rolleyes:


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: 404] * 2
    #22288862 - 09/25/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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    #22288885 - 09/25/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's pretty awesome that they're still catching these nazi fuck. That 90 year old woman is going to get absolutely tortured in jail. Its good punishment, but not nearly enough.

Did they just now find her or something? Why did it take so long to get her?


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus] * 3
    #22288930 - 09/25/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

But all she did was talk on a radio :facepalm:

There's a radio DJ out of Huntsville that I disagree with, can we charge him with murder?


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    #22288967 - 09/25/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No, she wasn't playing the Top 40 Nazi tunes. She was a Nazi and she was helping the other Nazi's communicate. They worked as a team to kill all those people so she is just as responsible as Hitler or the other Nazi's that were pushing the Jewish people into gas chambers. She didn't have to help them kill 1/4 million people.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus] * 1
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You're honor, I would like the court to review every of 260000 accusations individually please...


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    #22288997 - 09/25/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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She didn't have to help them kill 1/4 million people.





so she didn't have to kill anyone, to be a murderer?


you do realize if she decided "hey this seems immoral, i should stop being the radio girl"

she would probably have been called a traitor and put into the camps herself.


this was a literal no win situation.

she was following orders, and those orders involved her talking into a microphone, not to shoot anybody, not to turn gas valves, simply to relay information.


what ever happened to don't shoot the messenger?


i'm not saying what she did was right, i'm saying looking upon her as a demonic nazi murderer is excessive and is simply pandering to a group of people who want to see anyone and everyone who was even remotely tied to the holocaust or nazi's in prison or dead.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Salomon]
    #22289047 - 09/25/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know. I would try to flee or just kill myself if that was my only option. There is no way I could be involved, in anyway, with killing that many people. Just doing your job is no excuse in this situation and of course she wasn't turning on the gas, only a few people can do that. The other Nazi's had other jobs like catching Jewish people, shooting traders, making food, and relaying messages on the radio. They aren't any better than the people turning the gas knobs.

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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22289056 - 09/25/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Someone should write a modern reboot of Les Miserables with a former nazi as the protagonist


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus] * 3
    #22289062 - 09/25/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So, what you're saying is, if you know a murderer, you are one?

Janky logic, bro. I suppose my court date should be comin' up soon then.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22289073 - 09/25/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know. I would try to flee or just kill myself if that was my only option. There is no way I could be involved, in anyway, with killing that many people. Just doing your job is no excuse in this situation and of course she wasn't turning on the gas, only a few people can do that. The other Nazi's had other jobs like catching Jewish people, shooting traders, making food, and relaying messages on the radio. They aren't any better than the people turning the gas knobs.

I really don't see a problem with putting every Nazi in prison.




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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus] * 3
    #22289082 - 09/25/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know. I would try to flee or just kill myself if that was my only option. There is no way I could be involved, in anyway, with killing that many people. Just doing your job is no excuse in this situation and of course she wasn't turning on the gas, only a few people can do that. The other Nazi's had other jobs like catching Jewish people, shooting traders, making food, and relaying messages on the radio. They aren't any better than the people turning the gas knobs.

I really don't see a problem with putting every Nazi in prison.





it's really easy to say " i would rather die" when your life is not literally on the line.


you do not live in nazi germany, you do not have a family that may be killed because of your choices, you sit here on your computer with rights and free choices to make that will not have you starved and gassed  and tortured by your comrades.




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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22289086 - 09/25/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No I'm saying if you are participating in a group and you know they are committing genocide than you're basically a murderer. She had a choice and she didn't have to help the Nazi's. She could've fled, became a spy, commit suicide, or try to kill as many Nazi's as she could have before they killed her. She chose to help the Nazi's commit genocide.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus] * 3
    #22289113 - 09/25/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:facepalm:

You talk a mean game, man. Ur so tuff, I bet noone fucks with u!

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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] * 3
    #22289123 - 09/25/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I once worked with someone that killed 4 people. Does that mean, somehow, that I killed 4 people?

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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] * 3
    #22289133 - 09/25/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

But hitler and his soldiers WERE the government at the time, so how can she be charged for things that were not only legal at the time, but the literal system in place at the time?


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22289135 - 09/25/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not trying to be tough or cool and I'm not sure where that's coming from. I'm just giving my opinion on her actions. IMO her punishment isn't enough. Agree to Disagree I guess.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus] * 1
    #22289149 - 09/25/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No I'm saying if you are participating in a group and you know they are committing genocide than you're basically a murderer. She had a choice and she didn't have to help the Nazi's. She could've fled, became a spy, commit suicide, or try to kill as many Nazi's as she could have before they killed her. She chose to help the Nazi's commit genocide.




Doesn't every soldier who fought in a war and killed people have a "choice" to flee or commit suicide, do really understand how silly that line of reasoning is at the end of the day?

I'm sure the natives and Iraq and Afghanistan think US soldiers committed genocide, should they be pulled out of their nursing homes and be charged with murder in 60 years?  No, because that would be stupid, the same thing as this situation.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus] * 1
    #22289151 - 09/25/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not trying to be tough or cool and I'm not sure where that's coming from.




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She could've fled, became a spy, commit suicide, or try to kill as many Nazi's as she could have before they killed her.




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    #22289160 - 09/25/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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She didn't have to help them kill 1/4 million people.





so she didn't have to kill anyone, to be a murderer?


you do realize if she decided "hey this seems immoral, i should stop being the radio girl"

she would probably have been called a traitor and put into the camps herself.


this was a literal no win situation.

she was following orders, and those orders involved her talking into a microphone, not to shoot anybody, not to turn gas valves, simply to relay information.


what ever happened to don't shoot the messenger?


i'm not saying what she did was right, i'm saying looking upon her as a demonic nazi murderer is excessive and is simply pandering to a group of people who want to see anyone and everyone who was even remotely tied to the holocaust or nazi's in prison or dead.




but we don't know either way what her mindset was. I think were leaning towards "she was probably this innocent woman" because shes 91 now and definitely not a murderer at this point. but maybe she was just as fucked in the head as the others back then and got off on it? maybe she had affairs w nazi generals and enjoyed the spoils of the game? or she WAS an innocent woman who wanted to get out. Doubt we'll ever know


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    #22289168 - 09/25/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So no traction with the nazi Les Mis idea?


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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I'm not trying to be tough or cool and I'm not sure where that's coming from.




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She could've fled, became a spy, commit suicide, or try to kill as many Nazi's as she could have before they killed her.




:rolleyes: :lol:

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    #22289213 - 09/25/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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but we don't know either way what her mindset was. I think were leaning towards "she was probably this innocent woman" because shes 91 now and definitely not a murderer at this point. but maybe she was just as fucked in the head as the others back then and got off on it? maybe she had affairs w nazi generals and enjoyed the spoils of the game? or she WAS an innocent woman who wanted to get out. Doubt we'll ever know





so we should just assume that  "yep she totes had orgasms over those nazis and dead jews... STRING UP THE NOOSE!"


even if she did, at this point like you said shes fucking 91. she's not likely going to do fuck all to anyone ever again for the possible week-10? years she has left to live.


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    #22289240 - 09/25/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know. I would try to flee or just kill myself if that was my only option.




haha, that's all fine and dandy... until you're actually faced with the decision. i highly doubt you would kill yourself in any situation.


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    #22289252 - 09/25/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No I'm saying if you are participating in a group and you know they are committing genocide than you're basically a murderer. She had a choice and she didn't have to help the Nazi's. She could've fled, became a spy, commit suicide, or try to kill as many Nazi's as she could have before they killed her. She chose to help the Nazi's commit genocide.




Doesn't every soldier who fought in a war and killed people have a "choice" to flee or commit suicide, do really understand how silly that line of reasoning is at the end of the day?

I'm sure the natives and Iraq and Afghanistan think US soldiers committed genocide, should they be pulled out of their nursing homes and be charged with murder in 60 years?  No, because that would be stupid, the same thing as this situation.




Yes, every soldier has a choice. Yeah, the US soldiers are killers too just like most every other army. I think murder is still wrong even when the government says it is ok. I know that isn't a popular opinion, but I think it would be great if they locked up every army in the world if it was possible.


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I don't know. I would try to flee or just kill myself if that was my only option.




haha, that's all fine and dandy... until you're actually faced with the decision. i highly doubt you would kill yourself in any situation.




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I don't know. I would try to flee or just kill myself if that was my only option.




haha, that's all fine and dandy... until you're actually faced with the decision. i highly doubt you would kill yourself in any situation.




Why, people kill themselves  all the time. I've wanted to kill myself for way way way less than that before.  I still feel bad for everyone I've gotten into fist fights with, there is no way I would be able to live with myself being a part of genocide. Yeah, I can't be 100% sure until it happens, I like to think I would find a way out. In reality I actually would never join an army so that probably would never even be an option for me.


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    #22289289 - 09/25/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well this girl didn't join the Army either.

She operated a radio

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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus] * 2
    #22289299 - 09/25/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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but I think it would be great if they locked up every army in the world if it was possible.





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"NOW GET ON THE FUCKING FLOOR YOU MURDERING PIECE OF HUMAN FILTH YOU'RE OFF TO FUCKING JAIL FOREVER:shitstorm:"

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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus] * 4
    #22289311 - 09/25/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Why, people kill themselves  all the time. I've wanted to kill myself for way way way less than that before.  I still feel bad for everyone I've gotten into fist fights with, there is no way I would be able to live with myself being a part of genocide. Yeah, I can't be 100% sure until it happens, I like to think I would find a way out. In reality I actually would never join an army so that probably would never even be an option for me.




By your logic, You're responsible for killing thousands of people. The taxes you paid for in the past went to fund bombs that were dropped on people, you have the blood of many innocent people on your hands.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Salomon]
    #22289328 - 09/25/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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but I think it would be great if they locked up every army in the world if it was possible.





:wutermelon:

  "hi welcome to our recruiting office! we're proud to have you become a fine member of the united states army! :rainbowcloud:"


"NOW GET ON THE FUCKING FLOOR YOU MURDERING PIECE OF HUMAN FILTH YOU'RE OFF TO FUCKING JAIL FOREVER:shitstorm:"

are you fucking kidding me right now?




Are you kidding me? I know it isn't possible, that's why I said "if it was possible..." . It's just a nice idea that there wouldn't be any war. If the army was in imprisoned they wouldn't still be recruiting anyways

She was definitely a Nazi and the radio she was operating was there to help the Nazi's do terrible shit. Do you actually think she was playing music or something?


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Atreyu]
    #22289333 - 09/25/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So no traction with the nazi Les Mis idea?



keep the french out of this:snub:





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Why, people kill themselves  all the time. I've wanted to kill myself for way way way less than that before.  I still feel bad for everyone I've gotten into fist fights with, there is no way I would be able to live with myself being a part of genocide. Yeah, I can't be 100% sure until it happens, I like to think I would find a way out. In reality I actually would never join an army so that probably would never even be an option for me.




By your logic, You're responsible for killing thousands of people. The taxes you paid for in the past went to fund bombs that were dropped on people, you have the blood of many innocent people on your hands.





oh snap, he's got you there, the only way to stay true to your integerity is to flee the country, commit tax fraud for the rest of your life, or kill yourself.

please don't kill yourself tho:mmmkay:


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22289348 - 09/25/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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She's 91 and was a teenage radio operator at the camp. It's not like she gassed Jews herself she did what she was ordered to do. Seems excessive to me - M3E 

91-Year-Old Woman Charged With 260,000 Counts of Accessory to Murder

The charges are related to deaths at the Auschwitz concentration camp

German prosecutors have charged a 91-year-old woman who allegedly worked at the Nazis’ Auschwitz camp with 260,000 counts of accessory to murder.

A spokesperson for the prosecutors in Germany’s Schleswig-Holstein state said Monday that the woman is a former radio operator for the camp’s commandant and that she appears fit for trial, according to the BBC.

She is not the only one to have recently faced charges over a supporting role in running the camps. Oskar Groening, known as “the bookkeeper of Auschwitz” who sorted money from prisoners, was convicted of 300,000 counts of accessory to murder in July and sentenced to four years in prison. He still has time to appeal the judgment.

http://time.com/4045628/woman-charged-auchswitz-deaths/




FOUR YEARS IN PRISON? THIER CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS A GOD DAMN JOKE! jesus christ this pisses me off.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22289361 - 09/25/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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What the hell good is it going to do to lock people up 70 years later, after they've already lived a full life? What kinda message is that sending? That if you contribute to genocide you may spend your very last few years in prison where you'll die of old age after having been free for your entire life? We've kinda missed the window on "justice" having any practical effect. At this point, it's just locking up ancient people who are no danger to society and patting ourselves on the back for having "punished a war criminal".




So what would you consider a good cut-off age for someone who was even remotely involved in the massacre of a quarter of a million people? I think it's sending a good message that if you're "just following orders" to off 250,000+ innocent people that it's NEVER forgotten, no matter how long ago or how old you are.
They were allowed to live all this time as a free person, although while they were 'working' there, people were screaming & yelling about the amount of pain that was inflicted upon these innocent people. Those people didn't get to even live a full life, while these bookkeepers for genocide lived a nice, long, free life all these past decades. I say incarcerate the old geezers...it's a lot more humane than what they allowed to happen on their shift.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #22289375 - 09/25/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Gotta show some compassion. Alot of these kids were mindfucked at a young age and engaged in a war and a lifestyle that is extremely foreign to us. We wern't there, its almost impossible to imagine what the atmosphere was like growing up in.:peace: Unescapable for some im sure.

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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22289378 - 09/25/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you kidding me? I know it isn't possible, that's why I said "if it was possible..." . It's just a nice idea that there wouldn't be any war. If the army was in imprisoned they wouldn't still be recruiting anyways

She was definitely a Nazi and the radio she was operating was there to help the Nazi's do terrible shit. Do you actually think she was playing music or something?



ok i'll address this in  numbers:


1. no soldiers=/= no war.  war is a product of different ideology/power and resource craving, and is inherent to human kind. this is true for just about every nation/ tribe of humans  ever in all of history on this planet. if you actually thing anger and fighting and disagreement will ever go away with this species, you are delusional as fuck.

2. my recruitment example was merely a  comedic poke at how stupid what you're suggesting is.


3. every citizen of germany under nazi rule was a nazi  just as every american citizen under american rule is an american, that's just political terminology. you can disagree with the powers that be, but if you live there, you're a part of it. it's like after Dday, and the fall of the rich, when average german citizens were forced to walk through the death camps and see the piles of bodies and etc REGARDLESS of whether or not they agreed with the war and genocide.

YES SHE WAS A FUCKING NAZI. nobody here is debating that she was not a nazi.


YES she was relaying orders and not  just "playing music". this was a military death camp, why the fuck would she not be relayiong military orders, some of which very well may have been to kill people.



4. :facepalm:


5. i'm posting way too much in this thread, i think i've made my points clear....


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Atreyu]
    #22289391 - 09/25/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Why, people kill themselves  all the time. I've wanted to kill myself for way way way less than that before.  I still feel bad for everyone I've gotten into fist fights with, there is no way I would be able to live with myself being a part of genocide. Yeah, I can't be 100% sure until it happens, I like to think I would find a way out. In reality I actually would never join an army so that probably would never even be an option for me.




By your logic, You're responsible for killing thousands of people. The taxes you paid for in the past went to fund bombs that were dropped on people, you have the blood of many innocent people on your hands.




I know, its not a good feeling. That would be cool if there was a little box you could check if you didn't want your tax money going to the military. Or if you got to choose where all your tax money went.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus] * 1
    #22289396 - 09/25/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No I'm saying if you are participating in a group and you know they are committing genocide than you're basically a murderer. She had a choice and she didn't have to help the Nazi's. She could've fled, became a spy, commit suicide, or try to kill as many Nazi's as she could have before they killed her. She chose to help the Nazi's commit genocide.




Doesn't every soldier who fought in a war and killed people have a "choice" to flee or commit suicide, do really understand how silly that line of reasoning is at the end of the day?

I'm sure the natives and Iraq and Afghanistan think US soldiers committed genocide, should they be pulled out of their nursing homes and be charged with murder in 60 years?  No, because that would be stupid, the same thing as this situation.




Yes, every soldier has a choice. Yeah, the US soldiers are killers too just like most every other army. I think murder is still wrong even when the government says it is ok. I know that isn't a popular opinion, but I think it would be great if they locked up every army in the world if it was possible.




"I think murder is still wrong even when the government says it is ok"

Do you think murder is ever justifiable?  Because many of the soldiers that fight in a war and kill the enemy think it's the right thing to do.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22289406 - 09/25/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ask not "why bother a 91yo", ask how the fuck its possible she got away with it for 70 years.

Imagine someone commits a horrid crime and getting away with it for 70 years before being arrested.


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: qman]
    #22289420 - 09/25/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I really don't want the person whomwants to lock up every army in charge. What an ideolistic view


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: qman]
    #22289426 - 09/25/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, I think there are some people that I wouldn't mind being killed. Mostly shitty people who kill other people


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22289447 - 09/25/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

jail is supposed to reform people otherwise use the death penalty, judgement is done by the god of your choice.  She went to 91 years old without participating in another Nazi camp, she isn't a threat to society, hence anything done to her at this point is out of revenge, and if its out of revenge then your all going to hell.  Plus those Nazi's didn't really have a choice, it was kill or be killed as a traitor.  Only about 5% of American's would choose to die in her situation if it really came down to it so how are they gunna judge her


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus] * 2
    #22289480 - 09/25/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes, I think there are some people that I wouldn't mind being killed. Mostly shitty people who kill other people



hnnnghhhhh, pulled back into the thread for this.





by justifying murder in your own head, you become just as bad as the people you wish to be murdered, IE murderers. :wtfsonic:


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Salomon]
    #22289561 - 09/25/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The difference is the law would be doing it as a punishment, the murderer would be doing it for enjoyment or for whatever reason. You don't see a difference? Are you against, or for killing people? Actually don't even bother answering. I'm bailing out of this thread to go party and I already know I have some weird views on certain things, I see no need to debate them


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Re: Auschwitz: 91-Year-Old Woman Charged as Accessory to 260,000 Deaths at Nazi Camp [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22289820 - 09/25/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What she was doing was within the law as well.

So what's your point?


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