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OfflinePeyote Road
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When is your urine most potent? * 1
    #22286233 - 09/24/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't want to get into the whole urine drinking thing but I never have enough amanitas and so rather than spending all my money on amanitas I decided it was time to start begin recycling them.

However, I must admit I am very grossed out by it and would like to drink as little urine as possible which makes me wonder:

When is the best time to start? For instance, I just ate some amanitas about an hour ago. I was about to piss in a cup but then I realized most of my urine was probably from before the amanitas worked their way through my urinary system and perhaps I should wait until my next piss.

So that makes me wonder, when is my urine most potent? And also, are there any dangers/side effects to drinking large amounts of urine?

And how potent is the urine? I mean, assuming I have eaten 10 grams of amanitas and then collect one full bladder full of urine, how many grams would that be equilavent to?


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22286310 - 09/24/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I tried the amanitas once, and relized it wont do anything until you drink your piss. I instead looked into more options for tripping, and found I could get truffles sent to the states from the netherlands on certain sites. I have now been using them, and am happy with not drinking piss.

Im not sure if the "high" is worth it, or i should say "trip", but I dont think i would be happy with any high coming from my piss.


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: LSDollar]
    #22286453 - 09/24/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: wolf8312]
    #22286562 - 09/24/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

For reals bro? 
:somagnificent:
I'd imagine once you start feeling effects, the next piss is going to have the goodies, the first is probably a throw away.  Make sure to drink other fluids, probably distilled water would be best.  Drinking piss is unhealthy in the same way drinking saltwater is, there are a lot of excess salts and electrolytes and you could get dehydrated.  You could also keep fluids low after eating the amanitas, then drink some water after the effects start and that might make your urine more concentrated.   

But really man.  That's something else.  Just thinking about it is making me ill.  I'm not a fan of the amanita trip and I certainly would not drink urine to see if it made it marginally better.   
:offthehook:


Edited by P.Zappatecorum (09/24/15 11:19 PM)


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22286683 - 09/25/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You can drink your urine with relatively low toxicity as long as you don't drink it multiple times.

I'd imagine the best way to do it is trying to hold off peeing until after your amanita experience. If there is a lot of liquid, I imagine you could boil down your piss so you'd only have to take one shot of it.


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: Achillita]
    #22286759 - 09/25/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I dont think you can boil it down because the heat will destroy the actives.


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22286799 - 09/25/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I thought ibotenic acid converted to muscimol with heat and that everybody says you should bake or cook amanitas before consuming to get everything made into muscimol.  That's why piss is better than eating the mushrooms, because your body has already converted all the ibotenic acid to muscimol.  :shrug:

EDIT: I guess you don't want temps much higher than 190F, so you could simmer it down rather than doing a roiling boil.  Simmering piss on the stove sounds like it would be disgusting, remind me not to eat dinner at your house.  :lol: 


Edited by P.Zappatecorum (09/25/15 12:59 AM)


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22286845 - 09/25/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: Peyote Road] * 1
    #22290777 - 09/25/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Peyote Road said:
I didn't want to get into the whole urine drinking thing but I never have enough amanitas and so rather than spending all my money on amanitas I decided it was time to start begin recycling them.

However, I must admit I am very grossed out by it and would like to drink as little urine as possible which makes me wonder:

When is the best time to start? For instance, I just ate some amanitas about an hour ago. I was about to piss in a cup but then I realized most of my urine was probably from before the amanitas worked their way through my urinary system and perhaps I should wait until my next piss.

So that makes me wonder, when is my urine most potent? And also, are there any dangers/side effects to drinking large amounts of urine?

And how potent is the urine? I mean, assuming I have eaten 10 grams of amanitas and then collect one full bladder full of urine, how many grams would that be equilavent to?




Some people drink urine as a health measure. I have tried it. It gave me a headache. I quit. I never drank it to get high after taking psyches. That smacks too much of desperation. Give it a rest, man, give it a rest.


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: Starless]
    #22292238 - 09/26/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Amanita at 1:05 of the vid :smile:


OP:  Yea it isn't just marginally stronger.  It was the strongest experience of my life ((4 dry-cooked mushrooms recycled 2.5x (too strong; poured half of the last one out))); a cosmically jubilant drunkenness of unity stronger than 1/8ths of shrooms, 50mg 4-AcO-DMT, or a few hits of acid.


It is also a ton cleaner.  The effect profile is radically changed by eliminating sides, compounding muscimol while creating more too; it is much elevated.

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(...)knocked to the ground by the power of the experience; and flew up into the stars to find/understand the great "I AM".






Things starts to move pretty quickly.

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6.3 Both ibotenic acid and muscimol may be detected in human urine within one hour after the ingestion of the mushrooms. The peak of excretion of ibotenic acid appears at the second hour after the ingestion.

6.4... In humans, a substantial amount of ingested ibotenic acid is excreted in urine unmetabolized. Some is converted to muscimol which is more pharmacologically active.

6.5 In human beings, a substantial fraction of ingested ibotenic acid is excreted in the urine unmetabolized. Virtually no muscimol is excreted when pure ibotenic acid is eaten, but muscimol is detectable in the urine after eating A.muscaria, which contains both, ibotenic acid and muscimol. The ibotenic acid that does pass through the body is excreted rapidly, between 20 and 90 minutes after ingestion (Chilton, 1975)



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20715953





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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: flickedbic]
    #22296822 - 09/27/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Wow. Just wow


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #22297148 - 09/27/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Is the amanita trip comparable to dxm or ketamine?


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22298340 - 09/27/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

P.Zappatecorum said:
I thought ibotenic acid converted to muscimol with heat and that everybody says you should bake or cook amanitas before consuming to get everything made into muscimol.  That's why piss is better than eating the mushrooms, because your body has already converted all the ibotenic acid to muscimol.  :shrug:

EDIT: I guess you don't want temps much higher than 190F, so you could simmer it down rather than doing a roiling boil.  Simmering piss on the stove sounds like it would be disgusting, remind me not to eat dinner at your house.  :lol: 



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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: LincolnCityTripper]
    #22299677 - 09/27/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

"Muscmol binds to the same GABA receptors as benzodiazepines and barbiturates. GABA regulates anxiety, learning and neuronal excitability. Low doses of muscimol show anticonvulsant and antispasmodic activity; much like Valium. Higher doses work as both a stimulant, anticonvulsant and deliriant."

GABA-B also; in one thread it's compared with phenibut and GHB.

I've heard it likened with Valium too.


Someone put it this way: 
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The experience sure is different from any substance I’ve tried before, although comparisons can be made – a cross between (magic mushrooms(psilocybin)/LSD – part of these effects are present) / (DXM/ketamine – slightly disassociative) / (benzodiazepines – memory problems).




Maybe put a little booze around the edges and cherry of astral projection on top and there it is; but it can be lucid and very euphoric. 





PS: Someone reported that dehydrating Amanita urine yielded an encapsulatable product with good activity.


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: Hemuli]
    #22299766 - 09/27/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Hemuli said:
Is the amanita trip comparable to dxm or ketamine?




In my opinion, no.


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Re: When is your urine most potent? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22299780 - 09/27/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

when i eat asparagus  :shrug:


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