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What's people thoughts on art?
    #22285936 - 09/24/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

what is it, what isn't it, why do you hate/love it, or are indifferent to it, how do you feel about it?

painting, books/stories/novels, music, architecture, furniture, sculpture, performance/acting, film, photography, fashion, dance, building, decorative/design, printmaking, drawing/animation, poetry, typography/calligraphy, gastronomy, conceptual, mathematics...

any and all things that are/is/was/will-be/can-be/should-be/isn't-but-still-is art.

go, it's a good thread. c'mon people think real hard.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22285943 - 09/24/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Art is in the eye of the beholder. Otherwise it's just a mess.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Detached]
    #22285947 - 09/24/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

can you give an example?

what's good art, what's bad art, what's basterized art?


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Detached]
    #22285949 - 09/24/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Art is in the eye of the beholder. Otherwise it's just a mess.



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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22285963 - 09/24/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Art is a word that is up to definition by those that use it. :shrug:

I judge art by it's creativity or technical skill... pretty loose parameters for how someone else might perceive it.

No examples :wink:


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22285967 - 09/24/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Jerry was an artist.

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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Detached] * 1
    #22286043 - 09/24/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

words are (words that) are made up to define what a person means to make a word to communicate a thought, feeling, idea, thing, basically all words are just as you described.

saying the word art is loosely defined is like saying that the word shit is loosely defined and doesn't need to be justified in it's conceiving.

which is sort of true, but nevertheless art is a pretty easy thing to define regularly, it's a creative expression of aesthetic appreciation or emotion. creation is a word that is defined as something that is created, so in this sense art is the creation of something that is expressive of an aesthetic, or of an emotion, or of a design.

basically art like words (which were created, and are manipulated like any art is) is whatever isn't prohibited by being un-creatable.

art like words like philosophies and ideas are not bound to any specific quality even though opinions differ, and even the opinion of what the use of the word "art" is for, so art can only not-exist if one closes their mind off to particulars; it's a choice, but it's a personal one, so even art that isn't art is still art.

the importance of art is simple, people create shit.

people want to be completely practical, that's fine and dandy, doesn't change anything about words or art or ideas or philosophies, no one is absolutely endowed with the ability to judge which is why art can be found anywhere. anyone who disagrees is simply being difficult and is probably jealous because they're closing their minds off to the aspects that are endowed absolutely in the world without their say-so...because people generally only see $$$ and only wish their world to be the only "reality", which is why art even exists at all; because people think they own everything; art proves otherwise.

people would like to think "oh that useless artist isn't doing what i like so it isn't art". well that's blatantly subjective, and also stupid and crass. people do what they want to do, it's why people do anything at all; so you can be practically artistic and not think a thing about the word "art" but that doesn't stop anything from being created for the purpose of their expression (whether emotional or aesthetic [ie "i think only building things that are practical is useful and all other aesthetics are useless" - an aesthetic]) because people need to express themselves otherwise we would be lines on a flat plain, at the most. or just nothing.

whatever anyone does it their art, whether one disagrees or not, because that's achm what the fucking word means, it means to endow your expression on the world you are currently living in.

it's really really not complicated.

all the images everyone uses on this message board is art. the code programmed to design and run this website is art. E=mc2 is art. the lunar orbiter photos are art.

words are art.

art is not namby-pamby, art is what you like, and what you don't like, all at once, even if you don't like that.

why? because it was put into existence by a human and humans appreciate aesthetics because you put yourself where you want to be, or are put there by choice, whether it's preferable or not, because that was created around you and ultimately for you, whether you like it or not.

people really must hate art if they don't do any (or rather don't think they do any) because it puts them in their place and people's need for control makes them angry when it's realized that they don't control everything around them. they don't; art does that, not people.

sad for people who hate it. but too bad.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22286050 - 09/24/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Too many words. Can't read. Sorry brah :shrug:
















Just kidding. You have many valid points.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Detached]
    #22286102 - 09/24/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i didn't mean to write a dissertation length post, but it's kinda the only way to encapsulate what art means; it is literally creative expression of aesthetics.

people can argue all their life about what is a better or worse aesthetic, but nothing changes what the word means or is or does, or what art is or means or does; art is God.

people hate God because they can't understand it; well they shouldn't hate a non-existent being for just the sake of it's non-existence, but art however is exactly what-is-and-isn't-at-once. you can hate God but you can't ultimately hate art because art is that which people are alive for, for their self-interest is based on their aesthetics. even before people think of what they'd prefer they have what they've been given, and that is what they strive for, because that's all they know for better and for worse; it's the alpha and omega, as it were. you cant to change something about the word, it's because you know what it is you want to change, and if you don't know then you wouldn't want to change anything, which is art, the art they're born with and perhaps die with, and if they change something then that's THEIR ART that they've endowed to themselves and the world in tandem.

it's inescapable because you literally cannot live without want, and want is an aesthetic problem, and the need cannot be separated from the want, unless you are unthinking, and even then that would be the art, thou art, but it's not really like that, is it? no. it can't be because we do think, so hence we do strive for aesthetic qualities, what we WANT as opposed to what we simply need, which is still a want.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22286323 - 09/24/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I see graffiti artists who do better work than the 20 thousand dollar painting done by "real" artist in gallery. That annoys me to no end. Everyone knows and accepts that there are bar bands living in poverty who are better than the idiots on the radio. It seems very arbitrary who "makes it" and who doesn't. Pretty sure if Picasso was born now he would be dirt poor.
Rant two: Why does everything suck now? In the 70's movies were awesome, music was awesome, even TV was way better. I don't know if i should blame the internet or the current generation of douchbags who watch movies on their phones. I wish the days of the grindhouse independent movie theater came back because Netflix is garbage. I think society is getting dumber and this is a reflection of that stupidity. All my favorite directors have to crowdfund their movies now yet Fast and Furious made it to number 7. It's actually disgusting.
Also the quality of books in this century is terrible. The 20th century produced several classics a year, now it's all shit.
I don't see why just because digital photography exists that means that film can't. Just because people want shitty lo rez movies on a phone, why does that mean independent theaters can't exist? We seem to be trading quality for easy access. Nothing produced now is going to be a classic in 30 years, it's all very disposable now.
Yeah I think art and culture now just kind of sucks ass.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22286331 - 09/24/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

so it's all about the money, fame, position?

i think you're half-right about the fuckiness of things. there's always been something's that have no heart.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22286347 - 09/24/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Art Vandelay is cool, everything else sucks!


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22286400 - 09/24/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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so it's all about the money, fame, position?





No it's about the Kraft Dinner, shitty apartments and taking the bus with your guitar to gigs.
It will never be about money again thanks to the internet.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22286426 - 09/24/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

it was always that, unless you were propped up by record companies and major venues.

some great shit was given a chance back in the day, but only because people respected a struggling and artistic band with originality and talent.

now that's all gotta be done independently. so technically, it's still what it is all about, only it's not decided upon by record labels, which allows for more creative freedom. money was never the point, it was merely a bonus; but people never respected that anyways, they only respected the parley, the event, the get-together/ho'down/party and now all that is done on computers and with singers very similar to eachother in looks, taste and sound.

the dynamic has changed from real music being tainted, to real music being free.

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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22286448 - 09/24/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Art is pretty boss.


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    #22286656 - 09/24/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Art is alright

Modern art is fucking shit tho. Don't believe me? Just go and look at some modern 'art' and tell me it compares to the art from a few centuries ago.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: sunkeep] * 1
    #22286665 - 09/24/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone's an artist because there is an art to everything.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Shining Cosmos]
    #22286686 - 09/25/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I make pagodas out of garbage. It's art!


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: sunkeep]
    #22286760 - 09/25/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Art is alright

Modern art is fucking shit tho. Don't believe me? Just go and look at some modern 'art' and tell me it compares to the art from a few centuries ago.



not in technique, not alot of it. then again, there is great technique to pieces that you might not figure has it.

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I make pagodas out of garbage. It's art!



ok. you seem to be insinuating something...when you say "it's art!" do you mean it's "not art"?

because creating something out of garbage can be cool, just because it was once garbage doesn't mean it's just "garbage". you make a pagoda out of dispensed waste, that's pretty heady brah.

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Everyone's an artist because there is an art to everything.




yes sir, damn right.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22286820 - 09/25/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Fart.


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    #22286825 - 09/25/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've been doing it since I was a kid.  I'll sell you an original.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22287192 - 09/25/15 05:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Art is challenging expectations.  Sometimes something is designed to look like art, but it is actually propaganda, and sometimes advertising is actually honest in it's intent and becomes art.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #22288232 - 09/25/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Art is important. Art is culture. That said, there's lots of BS no doubt. There's good art and bad art, and there's conformist art and challenging art.
I'd say for any art to be good, it has to first give people a reason to consider it. For that reason, a lot of 'art school' type shit is bad because it purposely obfuscates to make the artist look clever rather than to actually achieve anything. So much of the 'high art' world is dicksizing bullshit.
The best art, to my mind, is engaging, well executed and challenging or thought provoking, but first and foremost it needs to be interesting to experience, or its a waste of time.
So many artists I know don't get that, they just make art geared towards fucking government grant programs 'insert buzz word here' type stuff that actually disengages the public rather than interesting them.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #22288253 - 09/25/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I love art in ALL its various forms.
Especially music, painting, literature, and poetry.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Ezuma] * 2
    #22288256 - 09/25/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Art is important. Art is culture. That said, there's lots of BS no doubt. There's good art and bad art, and there's conformist art and challenging art.
I'd say for any art to be good, it has to first give people a reason to consider it. For that reason, a lot of 'art school' type shit is bad because it purposely obfuscates to make the artist look clever rather than to actually achieve anything. So much of the 'high art' world is dicksizing bullshit.
The best art, to my mind, is engaging, well executed and challenging or thought provoking, but first and foremost it needs to be interesting to experience, or its a waste of time.
So many artists I know don't get that, they just make art geared towards fucking government grant programs 'insert buzz word here' type stuff that actually disengages the public rather than interesting them.





100% agreed. While I believe art can be almost anything, generating interest is the most important part. I think if your art doesn't cause a reaction from the person experiencing it, it's not worth the wall it's hanging on, the speakers it's playing through, etc. If it's only meant to be experienced by the artist, what's the point? The purpose of art throughout human history has been to tell stories and convey feelings and emotion.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: r.lutece]
    #22288325 - 09/25/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Its funny because, as someone in art school, people almost take pride in the fact only a select few 'get' their art. To me that just says you're a bad artist however
for instance richard tuttle, a fairly famous artist, in a documentary about him was basically grinning as he said 'of the small number of people interested in seeing my shows, maybe 1 in 10 really gets it'
:awesome:
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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22288507 - 09/25/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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can you give an example?

what's good art, what's bad art, what's basterized art?





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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22288563 - 09/25/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Art is a word that snoots use to fleece other snoots.  Remember tulipmania?  Same thing.  A much less pretentious term would be "cool shit".


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    #22288585 - 09/25/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #22288916 - 09/25/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

some people don't seem to grasp the concept of "doing art". it's just like "hey where's my art?"

what about doing art?


















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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22288934 - 09/25/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Art is pretty cool

I like art that had a lot of effort put into it. It really shows how amazing it is to be creative and the ability to put imagination to reality. A crossroads of some sorts.

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    #22288981 - 09/25/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

like



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    #22288987 - 09/25/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly. That abstract imagination that (I) cannot even put to my own mind to a picture.

The fact someone can imagine this, VISUALZIE IT and put it to paper, is just simply astounding. It really does give me goosebumps thinking about it!

Nice photo.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22288991 - 09/25/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i feel the same way. i've tried my hand at painting.



fresh off the boat, so not much "technique" here but i visualized and i did it. fucking house/river thing though is unfinished, i never finished the tree on the side.


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    #22289011 - 09/25/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's rough but I like it especially the first one, but I really like the abstract arts more than concrete visual art where you can tell exactly what it is.

The flow of colors is most fundamental thing and I don't seem to have a knack for it..

I'll stick to my stick figure guys fighting wars. :lol:


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Uzziel] * 1
    #22289057 - 09/25/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Crystal has been drawing for about a week.  Some of her stuff is pretty cool.  She definitely has a facility for it.  And I am sure you can imagine what her imagination comes up with.  Some of it isn't crazy.  Some of it is Crystal.


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    #22289202 - 09/25/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

These days I don't think art has any limitation to it. Ever since artists and their pieces such as Marcel Duchampe's "Fountain," Jackson Pollock's drip paintings, and Meret Oppenheimer's "Object," art has become more free and impossible to define in my opinion. Art is anything that you want it to be these days.

For my final art project in school I built a free standing sculpture and then smashed it to pieces for performance art.

In high school my art teacher took us to see this guy who hid under a blanket while he made crazy noises with a saxophone. That was his art.

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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22289265 - 09/25/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It's rough but I like it especially the first one, but I really like the abstract arts more than concrete visual art where you can tell exactly what it is.

The flow of colors is most fundamental thing and I don't seem to have a knack for it..

I'll stick to my stick figure guys fighting wars. :lol:



the first one i painted was that first one there, and the thing is i painted on top of my first painting which was crap and purely practice (first time ever doing any), and so i had tried to make shapes out of the shapes already provided with my practice, so essentially i didn't like think "oh i wanna make a house and a tree and water" no...it just came about that way...first the water because i used the back end off the brush (not the brush part but the handle part) and made those waves, and i was like "cool, i'll make a river flowing out of it then" and then the house shape just came about and the tree is actually the back layer of the practice i had done, and i thought "cool it looks like a tree". i intend on finishing it and painting the fresh layer so it all matches, but i haven't gotten around to it.

the second painting i did one big stroke again of the back handle of the brush, and spread out that shape, and then i filled it in, and i was like "perfect, it  looks like a fuckin' ear!" and it was good because at the time i was having ear problems (too much loud music) and you can see why (i love music) so...it just made sense. :lol:

i painted a bunch of other shit: a mountain side attempt, a smoggy power plant and smoke stack with some reddish hills in front of it, which i eventually painted over with some stuff, and it was also an attempt at a bird at first [lol], and then there was my attmpt to make a sun shape, which ultimately failed...and since all of it wasn't coming together for either of these three painting i cut up the canvas and glued the pieces together on some construction paper and made a fold-out thing, for shits and giggles.

then i have this other thing i started in a ridiculous puke green that just looks awful, green and yellow and it looks kinda like i was gonna make mountain tops with a road leading up to it...but it look poop, so i'm probably either gonna discard it or paint over it.

it was all in good fun for the time being. just whatever came about, that's what happened. i didn't plan any of it.

next time i'll be more cautious with my approach, when i feel like doing some painting again.

it is fuckin fun though, but...damn, it sucks if you're a noob and you mess something up, you don't know how frustrating it was when i messed up my bird i was like "fuck it" *smear smear* then i was like "i killed it" :lol: but something good came out it any way, and it was good practice.

so much fun, again, to reiterate. :lol: talking about it actually makes me wanna take it up again.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22289405 - 09/25/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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what is it, what isn't it, why do you hate/love it, or are indifferent to it, how do you feel about it?

painting, books/stories/novels, music, architecture, furniture, sculpture, performance/acting, film, photography, fashion, dance, building, decorative/design, printmaking, drawing/animation, poetry, typography/calligraphy, gastronomy, conceptual, mathematics...

any and all things that are/is/was/will-be/can-be/should-be/isn't-but-still-is art.

go, it's a good thread. c'mon people think real hard.






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    #22289415 - 09/25/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

People get too caught up in classifying art. As an artist I don't give a fuck if anyone considers what I do to be "art"

Art is just pure expression and creativity. Everyone has the potential to do it. It about the personal relationship the artist has with their creations. The intent is what makes it meaningful, not what everyone else thinks.

Art is everywhere not even just in the physical. There's an art to everything. Including the way you live and interact with the world around you. Are you living in the moment? Turn your life into a piece of art.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22289594 - 09/25/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22289681 - 09/25/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They make good points. It's like church. Just because they make good points doesn't mean you have to subscribe to the rest of it.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22289703 - 09/25/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

meh, it's not necessary to paint like the masters.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22289728 - 09/25/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I see graffiti artists who do better work than the 20 thousand dollar painting done by "real" artist in gallery. That annoys me to no end. Everyone knows and accepts that there are bar bands living in poverty who are better than the idiots on the radio. It seems very arbitrary who "makes it" and who doesn't. Pretty sure if Picasso was born now he would be dirt poor.
Rant two: Why does everything suck now? In the 70's movies were awesome, music was awesome, even TV was way better. I don't know if i should blame the internet or the current generation of douchbags who watch movies on their phones. I wish the days of the grindhouse independent movie theater came back because Netflix is garbage. I think society is getting dumber and this is a reflection of that stupidity. All my favorite directors have to crowdfund their movies now yet Fast and Furious made it to number 7. It's actually disgusting.
Also the quality of books in this century is terrible. The 20th century produced several classics a year, now it's all shit.
I don't see why just because digital photography exists that means that film can't. Just because people want shitty lo rez movies on a phone, why does that mean independent theaters can't exist? We seem to be trading quality for easy access. Nothing produced now is going to be a classic in 30 years, it's all very disposable now.
Yeah I think art and culture now just kind of sucks ass.




Well anyone has the choice to make really high quality, obscure stuff, but like you said, quality in the modern day doesn't necessarily equate to sales or even people noticing you.
I think honestly, the most genius artists of our time are the ones able to remain to what they are trying to express, yet still doing it within an accessible "pop culture" type of framework.

In music, for example, it's very much possible to express the same feeling in a pop song as a doom metal song or something. The artists that are able to do that are real geniuses because they remain true to their expression, yet do it in a way that is still accessible to the masses. A good example of this is a band like The Cure....their subject matter is gloomy as all fuck yet they were able to craft masterful pop songs that still catered to the mainstream.

Point is, no matter how good you are, your art doesn't have as big of an impact if people don't know who you are. The real geniuses stay true AND know how to hook the masses.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22289730 - 09/25/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This whole thread is a work of art.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22289798 - 09/25/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This quote is exactly why lots of good underground artists never get noticed:


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Claire Bouche said:
I used to think that focusing on the visual aspect was really vapid and ridiculous too," she admits, "but I've come to realise it's actually one of the most powerful tools I have to work with. The way that you present yourself visually totally dictates your audience and everything that anyone thinks about you. What's the difference between Napoleon and everyone else? Napoleon had great image branding. When people think of Napoleon they're not thinking of the Egyptian campaign or whatever, they're thinking of his fucking hat and his fucking hand in his waistcoat.

-Claire Bouche




If you don't put some kind of image out there, modern day people aren't going to give a shit, plain and simple. You can still be true to your art while creating a public persona. The artists that release stuff and then just disappear into anonymity...well of course nobody's going to notice that.

If you don't have some kind of a reputation in the eyes of the public, people are less likely to care.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22289932 - 09/25/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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meh, it's not necessary to paint like the masters.




I never said that. Just take what they say and put it in your back pocket is all.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: What's people thoughts on art? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22290347 - 09/25/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the guy i am doing caretaking for

http://vernonfinney.com/



art is a tight rope, you only get paid if you make it across and are lucky


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