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My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? (UPDATE. IT'S ALLLIIVVVEE, IT'S ALIIIVE!) :)
#22284845 - 09/24/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't know what's up.. A clue is, it'll start up right after its primed well, and then die 3 seconds later.. So, I think that says it has good spark and all that.
It won't start again until it's primed again. So, I'm guessing it may be a fuel delivery problem... Not sure how the primer gets gas in there vs the pump
I know cars decently, but I'm clueless when it comes to this type of motor.
Can any of y'all provide any help? Thanks in advance!
This is the mower.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong] 1
#22284849 - 09/24/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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clean the air filter?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: wrestler_az]
#22284853 - 09/24/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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K.. Brb
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#22284864 - 09/24/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does it have gas in it?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284865 - 09/24/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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air, fuel, spark. it's gonna be one of those things.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284866 - 09/24/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The air filter might be too wet or dirty not allowing enough air through. Try taking it out and starting it.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284867 - 09/24/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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K.. I took it off completely and it started and ran for an extra 2 seconds, but still died, even with no filter on
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284868 - 09/24/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And of course it has gas in it
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: berdinwall]
#22284872 - 09/24/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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empty all the gas, go buy brand new gas, change spark plug ... vrrooom..
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284880 - 09/24/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My guess would be it's not getting fuel but it could really be anything
Try dumping some seafoam in the gas and starting it several times to get the seafoam gas flowing through the carbthat may clean up any residue in the carb and get it running better
you can also start it up and see if it will stay running by spraying starting fluid in the intake, if it does its most likely not getting fuel
if the seafoam doesn't work and starting fluid does, just clean/rebuild the carb, it's real simple all you'll probably need is a philips screwdriver and maybe a 10mm socket/wrench
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: luvdemboomers]
#22284895 - 09/24/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The gas in it is fine.. I mow fairly often....it was low when I tried initially, so I went and got more gas just now and filled it up.. So I don't think the gas quality is the issue...
I have old seafoam at work, does that shit expire?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284900 - 09/24/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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seafoam rocks... don't think it expires.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: orison]
#22284902 - 09/24/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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orison319 said: empty all the gas, go buy brand new gas, change spark plug ... vrrooom..
I could try the plug, but wouldn't it just not start at all then?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: 404]
#22284905 - 09/24/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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404 said: seafoam rocks... don't think it expires.
What if it's like 10-15 years old?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: orison]
#22284909 - 09/24/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buy this. Thank me later.
under 10$. No more problem. To be found in every decent store
99.99% sure it'll solve your problem. It's not a mechanical issue I'm sure of it.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284919 - 09/24/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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404 said: seafoam rocks... don't think it expires.
What if it's like 10-15 years old?
i don't know. i would be wary personally, and seafoam is cheap at the store...
seafoam is probably the best fuel stabilizer etc on the market
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284921 - 09/24/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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whats the oil like?
you try starting fluid?
anything like twine, rope, plastic bags wrapped around the shaft/blade?
how is the compression when pulling the cord? does it want to pull back on you?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Patlal]
#22284923 - 09/24/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The fuel stabilizer is for fuel issues and storage over winter.. I don't think that's gonna be my fix
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: orison]
#22284927 - 09/24/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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orison319 said: whats the oil like?
you try starting fluid?
anything like twine, rope, plastic bags wrapped around the shaft/blade?
how is the compression when pulling the cord? does it want to pull back on you?
Oil needs to be changed. But otherwise fine.
I don't have starter fluid, so haven't tried that yet.
Prop is free from obstructions.
Compression feels normal.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284929 - 09/24/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shLong said: The fuel stabilizer is for fuel issues and storage over winter.. I don't think that's gonna be my fix
I was mine.
My mower started and then 5 seconds later it died.
I started it up again, lasted for 5 second and it died.
I put that stuff in. I start it up and magically it works.
Trust me on this one. Get that stuff and your mower works again.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284930 - 09/24/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does Patlal's pic clean the carb or just for gas quality?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284933 - 09/24/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK thanks, Patlal.. I'll try it
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284934 - 09/24/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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just use seafoam lol its under 10 bucks and you can get it at walmart. if you're gonna put something in your gas to fix it, seafoam is the one to use. it does a ton of added stuff.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284935 - 09/24/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK so now it'll start and run and sputter for like 10 secs and then die
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: 404]
#22284938 - 09/24/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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IllQuote:
404 said: just use seafoam lol its under 10 bucks and you can get it at walmart. if you're gonna put something in your gas to fix it, seafoam is the one to use. it does a ton of added stuff.
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404 said: just use seafoam lol its under 10 bucks and you can get it at walmart. if you're gonna put something in your gas to fix it, seafoam is the one to use. it does a ton of added stuff.
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404 said: just use seafoam lol its under 10 bucks and you can get it at walmart. if you're gonna put something in your gas to fix it, seafoam is the one to use. it does a ton of added stuff.
I'll go with the seafoam
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284943 - 09/24/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shLong said: The gas in it is fine.. I mow fairly often....it was low when I tried initially, so I went and got more gas just now and filled it up.. So I don't think the gas quality is the issue...
I have old seafoam at work, does that shit expire?
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shLong said: The fuel stabilizer is for fuel issues and storage over winter.. I don't think that's gonna be my fix
yep, it'll prevent problems in teh future if you use it reguarly. Not sayin patial is lying or whatever, but it is intended to be used to keep gas from going bad and gumming up carbs, not cleaning them. Seafoam or something similar would work better for what you want
If it was the plug or stator 99% chance it wouldn't start at all if it was compression it wouldn't start at all you know it's getting air
That pretty much leaves the cam chain jumping a tooth, which is very unlikely, an intake air leak, also unlikely, or a gummed up carb, which is very common
If you don't wanna spend like 8 bucks on a can of seafoam you can get berryman's chemtool B12. It's supposed to be stronger better as a fuel additive and is like 4 bucks a can
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: luvdemboomers]
#22284955 - 09/24/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK.. I'll go get some seafoam right now..
How long does it need to be in there to start it's thang?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284962 - 09/24/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And how much do I need to add the tank which is less than 1/4 gallon
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: luvdemboomers] 2
#22284965 - 09/24/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spray carb cleaner in the intake
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22284982 - 09/24/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shLong said: OK.. I'll go get some seafoam right now..
How long does it need to be in there to start it's thang?
You just need to get it in the carb so it can do its thing, shouldn't take long. Best way would be to add it to the gas then drain the carb so the old gas runs out and and the gas in the gas with seafoam in the tank goes in. There should be a bolt in the bottom of the float bowl you can remove and it will drain all the gas. If it's hard to get to you can just add it to the gas, and start the engine multiple times times so that it uses up the oldgas in the carb. That might take a while though if it only runs for a second.
But once it's in the carb it shouldn't take long. Might not hurt to let it sit for half an hour or so.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Chakatron]
#22284987 - 09/24/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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pull the carb bowl off and clean it, its part of the maintence your supposed to do, no need for seafoam yet, your shit isn't even running long enough for it to do hardly anything. You prolly have a bunch of gunk in the carb bowl, soon as the thing starts it sucks the pieces up and plugs your jet.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Chakatron]
#22284989 - 09/24/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I tried that with mine. It didn't solve the issue. The motor only kept going as long as I was feeding it carb cleaner. Then it choked the minute I stop spraying
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: luvdemboomers]
#22285007 - 09/24/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it's reccomended use is around an ounce a gallon. I'd honestly just pour a a bit in, too much won't hurt anything if you use up the tank of gas in the next week or so. Or you could just drain it if your not. Only thing too much might hurt is seals in the carb, but it would have to sit for a while to do that
or just do what makaveli said, that's the best way to do it and isnt hard at all
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: luvdemboomers]
#22285029 - 09/24/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alright.. I'll do that and then the seafoam if all else fails..
Losing light so it may need to wait til tomorrow.. Thanks, guys
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22285049 - 09/24/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was at auto zone when I saw that... I put the seafoam back on the shelf and left.. If I can do it and save myself $13, I will (money is tight these days).. I'll do the seafoam if the carb cleaning doesn't work.
I'll have to figure the motor out.. Never worked on a lawnmower before.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22285055 - 09/24/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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get a can of aresol carb cleaner if you're gonna clean it
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: luvdemboomers]
#22285061 - 09/24/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK.. Would acetone work (and q-tips), or does it need to be a spray?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22285067 - 09/24/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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you're getting into jerry-rigging territory shlong
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: 404]
#22285072 - 09/24/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why.. They're both solvents.. And I have acetone.. Just asking
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22285078 - 09/24/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah acetone will work
Spray would be better since you can blow out the jets though. When you get it apart unscrew the jets and hold them up to the light an look through them to see if there is any blockage
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22285092 - 09/24/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Check the fuel filter and the carb. The spark plug too, don't just assume it's good. Look up tutorials if you need, maybe even consult the owner's manual if you still have it, they always have a list of regular maintenance because of the warranty often with pictoral guides. Which might be helpful in figuring out the issue. Anyway, check the fuel filter. If it's dirty then clean it. If it's still shitty then use some kind of treatment. Check the brake cable for slack and make sure the blade spins freely.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22285096 - 09/24/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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the carb bowl is just 1 nut and its off, pull it straight down slowly, turn the gas off if you have a kill switch on the carb/fuel line. There is a gasket for the bowl, do your best to not pull it off with the bowl, because they are a bitch to get back on right.
Since you never took the bowl off before its prolly just filled with shit. My dad would always clean his every summer and there was always little pieces in there about half the size of a dime, looked like paint chips.
if that don't fix it next up is the jets, I tried taking mine off but I think u need a special screw driver to do it, I couldn't get any of mine to catch it to turn it out. carb cleaner might get it and be easier, but it also might not do shit. worst case you could bring it to my house
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oh another quick little thing u might wanna do, when the mower starts, push the throttle lever manually by hand (down by the engine where the cable attaches), there's also another one in there for the governor(2 little rods ones a spring actually that go to the carb)Push the thing on the carb where it attaches, try messing with both of those while its running or hold it while starting it.
its possible the throttle cable got out of wack so its not giving it enough gas so doing it by hand u can rule that out. then on the governor there is a couple springs that can get worn out or bent and then the intake will either stay stuck open or closed, its supposed to adjust automatically
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22285142 - 09/24/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This might be a long shot, but were you using a Christmas avatar the last time your mower started?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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its possible the throttle cable got out of wack so its not giving it enough gas so doing it by hand u can rule that out. then on the governor there is a couple springs that can get worn out or bent and then the intake will either stay stuck open or closed, its supposed to adjust automatically
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Burke Dennings]
#22285167 - 09/24/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks, mak and everyone.. I'll rip in to it tomorrow..
Burke, nah, I just changed my avatar this week. I had the mower running about 10-12 days ago
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22285171 - 09/24/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Appreciate the write up, mak.. That'll be helpful
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
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Please don't laugh at me, but this is the carb, right? And the bowl is what's under the primer, right?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
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Yeah the thing with the primer attached is the carb. Bowl is the white round thing at the bottom.
Also good luck fixing it. I have never been able to fix a small engine once it starts crapping out, no matter what I did. IMO they're just not made to last very long. Then again I'm not investing a couple hundred dollars in a weed eater or 600+ on a basic mower. I buy the cheapest shit possible, expect to use it for a year, maybe 2, and then replace it. Because in the past trying to fix it has proved impossible for me. Even taking the entire damn thing apart and cleaning it up.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22287846 - 09/25/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks pretty bad man, maybe you should take it to your shed and... well, you know. It's a mercy, it is.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22287847 - 09/25/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thought so, but wanted to make sure before I removed anything.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Turtletotem] 1
#22287850 - 09/25/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: Looks pretty bad man, maybe you should take it to your shed and... well, you know. It's a mercy, it is.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287862 - 09/25/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I loosen the bolt, fuel is gonna run out.. Is that just what's in there, or is it gonna run out of and drain the gas Tank?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287870 - 09/25/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shLong said: Why.. They're both solvents.. And I have acetone.. Just asking
I wouldn't use acetone. There are many types of plastic that acetone will dissolve.
Most lawn movers have springs that regulate the throttle through feedback with the engine speed. I bet one of them broke off.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287871 - 09/25/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't see a kill switch for the fuel between the tank and carb
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287874 - 09/25/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Unless there's a screw or something that I don't see that stops the fuel
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287876 - 09/25/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dam, shlong...clean the outside of the carb first...that thing is filthy. If cleaning the bowl out doesn't work...I would guess it's the fuel pump which is just a thin rubber diaphragm on the side of the carburetor just under the primer bulb.....if they get a pinhole in it, they won't work and will act like you are describing.....def sounds like a gas problem if it starts then stops....it's not getting fuel after the primer bulb pumped fuel runs out.
The diaphragm kits are pretty cheap and easy to replace.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: koods]
#22287877 - 09/25/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shLong said: Why.. They're both solvents.. And I have acetone.. Just asking
I wouldn't use acetone. There are many types of plastic that acetone will dissolve.
Most lawn movers have springs that regulate the throttle through feedback with the engine speed. I bet one of them broke off.
Ether/starter fluid work in a pinch? I found a bottle of SF
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287880 - 09/25/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's dirty because it's a lawnmower I don't typically clean such machines.. But I will
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287881 - 09/25/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The last time I can remember attempting to repair a small engine, it was weed eater, so it could be different, but I didn't need to drain the fuel before removing the carb.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22287891 - 09/25/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cleaned...
Also, I don't have a siphon.. Can I just prop it up so the carb is higher than the tank?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287892 - 09/25/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Unless there's a screw or something that I don't see that stops the fuel
Before you do anything, see that flat yellow tab attached the that bent rod? Wiggle it. If it moves freely, have someone push it in a little. That is the throttle. Maybe the governor is stuck or missing a spring. When you start the engine, push it in a little and see if you can control the engine manually.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: koods]
#22287900 - 09/25/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really think the throttle is stuck closed.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22287901 - 09/25/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe get a new spark plug and throw it in anyway. Basically give it a tune up while you're at it.
I had that same model crap out on me last season, broke the pull start. Said fuck it and bought a new mower. I still have the old one sittin in my shed.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: koods]
#22287903 - 09/25/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Too late, koods.. But I already fucked with the throttle and I don't think it's stuck.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287919 - 09/25/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't know fuck all about lawnmowers or small engines but damn you did a nice clean up on that carb
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287935 - 09/25/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone mention checking the jet yet?
 Should be something similar to that. Check to make sure the holes aren't clogged.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287961 - 09/25/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not sure if this has been addressed but take off your flywheel cover and clean your contacts on your coil and re gap your coil using a business card. Usually bolted on with on of the bolts on the coil is a piece of plastic that is attached to a spring this controls your idle based off the draft coming from your flywheel. Make sure the piece of plastic is conected to the spring and moving freely. Also check your compression make sure your rings arent bad also clean carb, air filter, and spark plug(sure those have been addressed).
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Mental Taco]
#22287978 - 09/25/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now it won't even run for a little bit after it starts.. Prime it, pull the cord and it'll run for like 1 second. Pulled the plug, gonna replace that. Looks like it may have gotten wet.
Put some seafoam in awhile ago, so hopefully that's working, but I'm hoping I didn't put too much in and make the fuel not work at all.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22287981 - 09/25/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Anyone mention checking the jet yet?
 Should be something similar to that. Check to make sure the holes aren't clogged.
Is that the bolt that holds the bowl on?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22287991 - 09/25/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Should be. I'm just going by memory from all the shit I've done in the past to get a damn small engine to work again. I remember cleaning that thing out and thinking I solved the problem only for it to still be there. 
Also your plug looks kinda oil fouled. If it is oil fouled, you've got a whole new problem.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288008 - 09/25/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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personally I wouldn't bother replacing that spark plug, I can't see if the other side is cracked but if its not it looks good enough, just resize the gap according to the manuel and clean it up a bit. id at least check the throttle/gov first
based on how dirty that carb is I would venture to guess you have a small gas leak possibly, something to keep an eye on after you fill the tank back up. might be leaking from the gas line, or the primer bulb. I remember hearing on weed eaters if the primer bulb fails/leaks then they won't start.
did you play with the throttle and Governor yet?
you engine is different than mine, looks like yours is meant to adjust its throttle itself. anyways its that yellow tab with the rod going to it, turn the tab while starting/trying to run it.
then way behind that is a spring, that most likely goes to the Governor
and mostly non related but whats your oil look like while your at it?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288024 - 09/25/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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also my guess for why it won't run now is you emptied all the fuel out of the carb, might take more than 3 pumps to get her going again. you can also put a little gas in the spark plug hole to get her started once
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288028 - 09/25/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip, that was clean, as was the inside of the carb (so far as I was able to tell)
The oil is low and in need of replacement, which I'll do of i can get it going again.. Not low enough for concern, but yeah..
The throttle moves freely and will rev when fucked with when it does run.
I have not played with the governor.. to be honest, I don't know how to.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288031 - 09/25/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also, I bought this from a random guy and dont have any manual for it
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288040 - 09/25/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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once you rule out the carb ( you still don't really know about the jets), then the next easiest thing to check is the fuel line/filter, empty your tank then pull the hose off both ends. the one on the tank will have the filter in it. id just take the whole hose and run the garden hose through it and let it dry a bit.
then when you put it back together, me personally id put some hose clamps on it, im not sure why it doesn't have them, maybe the hoses are designed to fit really tight or something on that model but it really looked like it was leaking ontop the carb
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288044 - 09/25/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If I come up with some other ideas that I've looked at in the past I'll post 'em but really, small engines are far more confusing to me than car engines. I have never been able to fix one.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288045 - 09/25/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The throttle moves freely and will rev when fucked with when it does run.
can you keep it running by holding it rev'd?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288048 - 09/25/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's running!
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288055 - 09/25/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shLong said: Also, I bought this from a random guy and dont have any manual for it
you can just google the mower to find the manuel
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288076 - 09/25/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And it stayed running til I killed it 
I dried and cleaned the plug and put it back in and it fired right up!
Not sure which part did the trick, but I'll take it..
Maybe the seafoam had enough time to work its magic.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288080 - 09/25/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The throttle moves freely and will rev when fucked with when it does run.
can you keep it running by holding it rev'd?
No, that didn't work when I was doing it.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288081 - 09/25/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shLong said: It's running! 
Congrats you did what I never could.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288086 - 09/25/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So, I guess now I'll get the oil right again, and hope that's it..
I learned a lot from this thread..
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288092 - 09/25/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The only thing of concern was that it was smoking a lot near the exhaust manifold... I did spill a lot of fuel, so hopefully it was just the gas burning off the hot surfaces.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288096 - 09/25/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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just for future reference you can find the jet by taking the carb bowl off, there is a tub that goes down into that bowl, you got the bowl off by taking a screw out, that screw went into the tube. Inside that tube is the jet.
On some/possible all mowers there is a second jet ontop the carb.
anyways key to keeping mowers running is your maintence. with the shitty ethanol fuel u need to use fuel stabilizer all the time now, especially over winter. change oil before winter. Some people say to drain the fuel tank, others say to just top it off with fuel that's stabilized before winter storage.
your air filter needs changed from what I can see, at the least blow the shit out of it with compressed air without making holes in it.
and the last thing is to put oil in the spark plug hole during winter storage. you could also drain the carb bowl to be careful.
there's some other shit too like there might be a spark arrester behind the muffler that needs cleaned, but best bet just find the manuel online and do what that says
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288106 - 09/25/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd keep an eye on the plug. It's kind of hard definitely see, but it really does look oil fouled. Generally that shouldn't happen. If you got the plug all clean, then check it after 5-10 hours of use and see if it looks like it's coated in oil. If it is, something is going on that shouldn't be.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22288135 - 09/25/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was just about to suggest that shlong brings his mower to a real man, but apparently he pulled it off!
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Patlal]
#22288156 - 09/25/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks, mak.. You've been a real help.. I didn't know you knew small engines so well.
Shroomslip, you too.. Appreciate it.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288172 - 09/25/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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There was a guy repairing some small to medium engine in the parking lot across the street this morning at 6am in the rain. F**ker woke me up.
Whatever is so goddamn important at 6am to get a random engine running, I don't know, it wasn't attached to anything and there was a lot of banging, cursing and slamming mid-downpour in a random parking lot.
Whichever tho, it's raining and 55 degrees, tomorrow won't be above 70 and I'm going mushroom hunting so meh, such is life.
BTW why didn't you check the spark plug first.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288175 - 09/25/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't know them to well till about a month ago, I pulled my lawn mower apart so I could paint the bottom of the deck, and do all the maintenance and check everything out. So I just got done dealing with a lot of things that can go wrong so its still fresh in my head.
Sadly after I got it all back together, I had a fuel leak, and it fucked up part of my paint job. I also painted my muffler with high temp paint but apparently not high enough so that got ruined too
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288179 - 09/25/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your lawn must be super pissed it's not getting plowed by a well-groomed mower.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Peachette]
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for some odd reason we have 2 push mowers and a riding mower, so it still got plowed hard. I replaced the fuel line going in to the overhaul but it turned out to be a crack in the tank where it bolts to the mower, just got done doing some research and it looks like jbweld is going to be my friend for fixing this, tricky finding something to hold up to gasoline
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why didn't you check the spark plug first.
think most people just assumed since it was starting that it was getting spark, my hunch is when the fuel got dumped when he pulled the bowl all the stuff came out with it
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Peachette]
#22288201 - 09/25/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't check it 1st because it was running and then dying.. I thought it was a fuel/air issue initially..
I don't think the spark plug was ever the issue, just happened to be the last thing I touched before it worked..
Probably the seafoam that did it.. I also cleaned the inside of the carb on every surface and hole I could get at, thanks to mak and Co.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288212 - 09/25/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you have two push mowers why not just part one out or get one at a landfill/transfer station/waystation or whichever they call them in your area. People scoop them up fast tho.
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shLong said: I didn't check it 1st because it was running and then dying.. I thought it was a fuel/air issue initially..
I don't think the spark plug was ever the issue, just happened to be the last thing I touched before it worked..
Probably the seafoam that did it.. I also cleaned the inside of the carb on every surface and hole I could get at, thanks to mak and Co.
Your mower should be good for awhile now. Work and time well spent.
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Plow it in the grass and back 9.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Peachette]
#22288219 - 09/25/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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because mines special
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288229 - 09/25/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My s/o's fave mower was the dumpiest stinkiest broken down piece of junk and still used it over the new 400$ one.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288242 - 09/25/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The throttle moves freely and will rev when fucked with when it does run.
can you keep it running by holding it rev'd?
If he can, the throttle is the problem.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: koods]
#22288264 - 09/25/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288300 - 09/25/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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New plug new air filter oil change. Tune that fucker up.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Chakatron]
#22288311 - 09/25/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Chakatron said: New plug new air filter oil change. Tune that fucker up.
 Will do Sunday..
Peachette.. Answer my reply to the PM you sent me or answer it here.. Who is your husband/partner here? Is it Dys? Inquiring minds want to know
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: Chakatron]
#22288347 - 09/25/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Chakatron said: New plug new air filter oil change. Tune that fucker up.
Nooooo. It's running. Don't fuck with it anymore!!!
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: koods]
#22288387 - 09/25/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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definitally do the oil change, and make sure u use the right kind for small engines, something to do with detergents n shit
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22288374
anyways theres what my mower looks like now, I took some pics of where the paint got fucked up from the gas, I think the paint would have held up to it, except when it came through the drain hole it actually went behind the paint.
then some more of the gas tank repair I just did
finally for those wondering why I bothered
http://powerequipment.honda.com/lawn-mowers/models/hrc216hxa
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288412 - 09/25/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't just use 5/10W-30?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288439 - 09/25/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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what my manuel says is non detergent oil will shorten your motors lifespan, and 2 stroke will damage it.
I just went to fleet farm, went to the lawn section, and by the mower blades they had oil for lawn mowers and weed eaters and bought Honda
http://cdn.powerequipment.honda.com/pe/pdf/manuals/00X31VK67280.pdf
if you can't find your manuel then you can check that one out for general idea's on maintence, should be fairly similar until you get to specific stuff
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22288455 - 09/25/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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so I believe what your looking for is 4 stroke that uses detergents
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: koods]
#22288581 - 09/25/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The throttle moves freely and will rev when fucked with when it does run.
can you keep it running by holding it rev'd?
If he can, the throttle is the problem.
Except... no.
As others have pointed out it was likely a clogged jet or passage in the carb. Could have been crappy/old gas or something as simple as an insect carcass.
The 'throttle' is simply a metal plate or slide. It either rotates/slides or it doesn't. There are passages in the carb specifically dedicated to low rpm operation.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288595 - 09/25/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shLong said: I can't just use 5/10W-30?
Yes. But as has been mentioned, use a detergent oil... which they almost all are. You'll often have to go out of your way to find a non-detergent oil. It'll say non-detergent on the label.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#22288640 - 09/25/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks.. Yeah, we use non detergent oil for some of our big saws at work, so I know about it.. I just didn't know they all contained detergent by default.. I'll figure out how to drain the oil and change it.
Oil filter on a lawnmower?
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288656 - 09/25/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If its a briggs&stratton engine use sae 30 oil in the mower schlong
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: MightyWhite]
#22288673 - 09/25/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's Tecumseh
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288710 - 09/25/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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no oil filter, there is a bolt below the dipstick that's your drain plug. On my mower there is also a hole in the deck so u can put a drain pan under the deck to catch it, or you can tip the mower on the side.
ive also seen people just drain the things out of the fill spout again tipping it.
also to keep your deck from rusting clean the bottom then coat it with the used motor oil
should run the mower a little bit to warm it up before draining
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288718 - 09/25/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would still use sae 30 Sae 30 is a single viscosity oil you really don't need 5w30 unless you plan on mowing the yard when its freezing out.
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: shLong]
#22288735 - 09/25/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shLong said: Thanks.. Yeah, we use non detergent oil for some of our big saws at work, so I know about it.. I just didn't know they all contained detergent by default..
there more to it than that, automotive oil is meant for liquid cooled engines with oil filters. Small engine 4 stroke is meant for air cooled engines without oil filters, the type of detergents used is different because the engines will be operating at different heat and designed different
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/oil-fuel-lubricants/250876-small-engine-oil-vs-regular.html
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Small engine oil has a detergent that "congeals" suspended particles and makes them settle in the bottom of the crankcase and can be removed when drained. Automotive oil does not need it due to being filtered
quote from mud in that thread
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: MightyWhite]
#22288744 - 09/25/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The lower the first number means its thinner oil for cold weather applications. Like you would put 5w30 in a snowblower. It won't hurt to put 5w30 in the mower or anything, but personally I would use sae 30
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Re: My lawnmower starts and then dies right away.. Help? [Re: MightyWhite]
#22288812 - 09/25/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Today I learned! Thanks :-D
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